Add a context menu entry and a shortcut for 'remove from library

[Tony_D]

I think I disagree.
They should be next to each other (vertically) making it clear there are two options for this.
Making it easy to decide if you want to 'delete' or 'remove' from the same menu.
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Where th eplacemnt will be and how it's named i leave up to Steven ... as long as there will be a hot key for it i'm truly happy.

[voodoopunk]

I'm not sure I understand any of this, just press the delete key and you'll be prompted with a confirmation window with two options of "Delete from Library only" or "Delete from Library and Computer".



Why not do that, why is an extra menu option required?

[hiccup]

I'm not sure I understand any of this, just press the delete key and you'll be prompted with a confirmation window with two options of "Delete from Library only" or "Delete from Library and Computer".?

It requires an extra user intervention and thought process every time.
If there was a direct option for 'remove from library', both would be avoided.

When you see how often this 'deleting' matter is raised on the forum, and how seriously damaging the results can be, it makes perfect sense to me to have a direct menu entry and shortcut that does exactly what it says.

[voodoopunk]

-1 to the wish.

There's no need for extra complexity and more right click options. Just press the delete key does exactly what he's asking for.

"They should be next to each other (vertically) making it clear there are two options for this.
Making it easy to decide if you want to 'delete' or 'remove' from the same menu."

[Tony_D]

When you see how often this 'deleting' matter is raised on the forum, and how seriously damaging the results can be, it makes perfect sense to me to have a direct menu entry and shortcut that does exactly what it says.
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A key board shortcut would solve all 

[hiccup]

Just press the delete key does exactly what he's asking for.."

That's incorrect.
Pressing 'delete' opens a menu. In MusicBee 'delete' is an ambiguous word and function.
A 'remove from library' option would do exactly what is says.
It would be similar to 'remove from playlist'. And we have that.
There currently doesn't exist a directly available and unambiguous option for that.

[voodoopunk]

"They should be next to each other (vertically) making it clear there are two options for this.
Making it easy to decide if you want to 'delete' or 'remove' from the same menu."

What does the screen grab show?

[hiccup]

What does the screen grab show?

That comment indicates ignoring the arguments that have been made and explained.
You are talking about a secondary pop-up panel.
Both the OP and I have been talking about context menus and keyboard shortcuts.

[voodoopunk]

That comment indicates ignoring the arguments that have been made and explained.

It does, as I've explained.

[hiccup]

It does, as I've explained.

Again:

You are talking about a secondary pop-up panel.
Both the OP and I have been talking about context menus and keyboard shortcuts.

[Steven]

The second image shows the selection option, which ever so often i click wrongly and delete my files from my computer entirely, i'm scared of that menu, a clear list or the like with a keyboard shortcut would settle my nerves much more, inside MusicBee i would never ever want to fully delete any files, always done in Windows Explorer, to keep better oversight, would love to see that menu entry gone, i would sleep better  

i am slightly confused by this. The default is always "Delete from library only" and all you need to do is click the "Yes" button or even just hit the "Enter" key.
I am happy to make the options wider apart and even add a Alt-Delete key action that only allows deleting from the library only

[BoringName]

i am slightly confused by this. The default is always "Delete from library only" and all you need to do is click the "Yes" button or even just hit the "Enter" key.

It remembers whatever the last option chosen was. If that was "Delete from Library and Computer". The next time you attempt to delete something, that is the option that is enabled.

[Pickles7853]

I agree.  It totally remembers the last option chosen.  I delete files on a regular basis and I always tip-toe around this dialog just so I don't accidentally choose the wrong option.

[Tony_D]

The second image shows the selection option, which ever so often i click wrongly and delete my files from my computer entirely, i'm scared of that menu, a clear list or the like with a keyboard shortcut would settle my nerves much more, inside MusicBee i would never ever want to fully delete any files, always done in Windows Explorer, to keep better oversight, would love to see that menu entry gone, i would sleep better  

i am slightly confused by this. The default is always "Delete from library only" and all you need to do is click the "Yes" button or even just hit the "Enter" key.
I am happy to make the options wider apart and even add a Alt-Delete key action that only allows deleting from the library only

Hello Steven,
Indeed, I often hit delete and then quickly enter, without seeing the selection properly and then it happens, after a while i find my files are gone.
The issue here is that while the 2 options are needed and useful, once you have used the second option, delete from library & computer your files are send to Windows Garbage bin, in itself it's just fine and works as expected.
Now the next time when you use delete, the last selection is remembered and as pointed out, i'm not the only one falling for this trap, i have lost countless tracks due to this that it scares me.
I leave my PC on 24/7 as i can't sleep much and or long so i spend my entire life literally using MusicBee so the last selection is always on, if you off & then on MusicBee, it's per design back to default, that is correct.

I assume that this option remember last selection is there by design and that users have requested for that since long, no issue with that, if you could make a keyboard shortcut to the DELETE from library and leave the rest of the menu as is it would be fine, as simple as that.
To delete accidentally from library is never an issue as when you monitor folders it will be added fast enough again to your collection, when send to Windows Garbage bin and if you multi task much like i do, its over written in no time after deletion, that's scary...

Anyway, it's reassuring that you have joined the conversation, hopefully there is a simple solution, i will take the back seat now, as my worries have been noted, looking forward to an elegant solution, on behave of fellow users with the same worries I thank you for spending you thoughts on this...

Tony D, a happy MusicBee user  

I have setup a long time ago ALT+C for conversion (send to file converter), it's setup-up to convert to FLAC, replace source, never had an issue, it's second nature now don't need to think or look
The next step would be ALT+X to DELETE (clear) SELECTED files... one can only hope...

[hiccup]

Personally I think a case could be made to get rid of the secondary 'delete' pop-up panel all together.
The core issue that is and keeps getting raised is the result of the term 'delete' being ambiguous.
One meaning is deleting files from hard drives, the other is deleting them from MusicBee using tracks in  playlist, libraries etc.

It makes perfect sense to keep those different functions separated as good as possible.

I could imagine a solution where the right click menu would contain separate entries for:

Main panel:
-  remove from library
-  delete from computer

Playlists:
- remove from playlist
- delete from computer

Now playing:
- remove from list
- delete from computer

etc.

As keyboard shortcuts it would then make sense to have [Delete] performing the 'remove' action, and [Shift]+[Delete] performing the 'delete' action.

No secondary pop-up panel would be needed, MusicBee would not need to 'remember' anything, and it would remove any ambiguity and unclarity.

I'm sure it would be slightly more complicated than how I am presenting the idea here, but I think it's a much better starting point than how things currently are.