Author Topic: ReplayGain 2.0  (Read 1444 times)

Neovolter

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Does it support Replay Gain 2.0 (analysis of loudness, tagging & correct playback) or only ReplayGain 1.0? If I'm not mistaken, ReplayGain 2.0 is the best algorithm for normalization of music loudness but I can't find any information about which players it supports.

hiccup

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Does it support Replay Gain 2.0 (analysis of loudness, tagging & correct playback) or only ReplayGain 1.0? If I'm not mistaken, ReplayGain 2.0 is the best algorithm for normalization of music loudness but I can't find any information about which players it supports.
Far as I know ReplayGain 2.0 is only some old proposal for calculating loudness.
'It' (I'm guessing you are talking about MusicBee) uses EBU R128, which is the industry standard for analysing loudness.
(here is me hoping you are not some spambot)

Neovolter

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Humm. I'm confused by all these standards because I'm totally new to this. :) I'm just tired of constantly adjusting the volume of tracks and looking for the best solution, so I found this tool: https://github.com/complexlogic/rsgain. I tagged my music with it, but it seems that MusicBee doesn't support it, because there are still loudness inconsistencies while playback. Therefore, if I understand correctly, the player already has the best volume normalizer, so all I need to do is tag all my audio files with it?

hiccup

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Therefore, if I understand correctly, the player already has the best volume normalizer, so all I need to do is tag all my audio files with it?
Yep.
And since you are not a bot: welcome to the forum Neovolter

Also, this forum search method may come in handy to learn more about MusicBee, loudness normalisation, EBU R128 and whatnot.
(it exclusively searches the MusicBee forum)

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Don't blame yourself, this is confusing stuff for sure.
The rsgain tool you found indeed mentions ReplayGain 2.0. But it uses EBU R128 as the core algorithm.
So both MusicBee and rsgain are using the same industry standard to get results.
Last Edit: October 27, 2024, 07:32:30 PM by hiccup

Neovolter

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Therefore, if I understand correctly, the player already has the best volume normalizer, so all I need to do is tag all my audio files with it?
Yep.
And since you are not a bot: welcome to the forum Neovolter

Also, this forum search method may come in handy to learn more about MusicBee, loudness normalisation, EBU R128 and whatnot.
(it exclusively searches the MusicBee forum)

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Don't blame yourself, this is confusing stuff for sure.
The rsgain tool you found indeed mentions ReplayGain 2.0. But it uses EBU R128 as the core algorithm.
So both MusicBee and rsgain are using the same industry standard to get results.

Ok. Thank you :D

Zak

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...I found this tool: https://github.com/complexlogic/rsgain. I tagged my music with it, but it seems that MusicBee doesn't support it,...
It talks about creating REPLAYGAIN_TRACK_GAIN and REPLAYGAIN_ALBUM_GAIN tags, so as long as it's analysing tracks correctly, MusicBee should be able to read those same tag values and use them to adjust the volume. You could also use MusicBee's volume analysis to achieve the same result if you want to avoid using a separate program for it.

Getting the obvious question out of the way first - have you enabled one of the Gain options in MusicBee before playing?
Just analysing the tracks won't do anything if MusicBee isn't also instructed to use the calculated values.
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Neovolter

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...I found this tool: https://github.com/complexlogic/rsgain. I tagged my music with it, but it seems that MusicBee doesn't support it,...
It talks about creating REPLAYGAIN_TRACK_GAIN and REPLAYGAIN_ALBUM_GAIN tags, so as long as it's analysing tracks correctly, MusicBee should be able to read those same tag values and use them to adjust the volume. You could also use MusicBee's volume analysis to achieve the same result if you want to avoid using a separate program for it.

Getting the obvious question out of the way first - have you enabled one of the Gain options in MusicBee before playing?
Just analysing the tracks won't do anything if MusicBee isn't also instructed to use the calculated values.
Yes, it's enabled (track gain). Maybe I did something wrong with that tool ("rsgain" from Github). Actually, I have already tried to tag files with MusicBee, and after the analysis, I got a lot of warnings about clipping on some tracks. I know that it is possible to adjust those files manually, but there are thousands of them. Is it possible to automatically correct them ("auto-anticlipping" or something like that)? Actually, it would be very convenient if all ReplayGain-tags for tracks with clipping were automatically corrected right away after an analysis)



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Is it possible to automatically correct them ("auto-anticlipping" or something like that)? Actually, it would be very convenient if all ReplayGain-tags for tracks with clipping were automatically corrected right away after an analysis)
I'd give a +1 on that as an option.  BTW, this post here is essential reading:
https://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=15833.0

Edit: Apparently you CAN do this with Audacity;  see this link:

https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/amplify_and_normalize.html

I didn't read it closely enough to see if it uses tags to do this or makes a permanent change.
Last Edit: October 28, 2024, 09:21:55 AM by sveakul