Author Topic: How to Search the Forum • Options • Tips • Tricks  (Read 2831 times)

hiccup

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 How to search the forum


As a result of the large amount of information that has been growing over all the years since the establishment of this forum, the chances that a (new) user has a question that has never been answered or discussed before is getting smaller and smaller.

Therefore it is important that when a question arises, the first thing to do is searching  the forum for answers, so not to force other members repeating the same sort of answers again and again, and so clogging the forum with multiple variations of similar answers being scattered all-over.

    At the moment of writing, there are several ways how one can search the forum (or the Wiki or the web), such as:

    -  Google / Bing / DuckDuckGo et.al
    -  LLMs
    -  The forum's search bar
    -  The forum's custom search (icon)
    -  MusicBee's Custom Forum Search

 Here are some observations on these options:

Google

    Will be the most familiar option for most.
    The advice for that one is to prepend your search query with:
    site:getmusicbee.com/forum/     example
    In that way, only MusicBee's forum will be searched.
    Note that there must be a space between .../forum/ and your search query.


LLM's

    getting better and better day by day
    Some may be better in finding linguistic type of answers, some may be better in finding suggestions for code. (such as formulas for virtual tags and regexes)
    A forum topic on that subject can be found here.


MusicBee's forum search bar

    There are actually two options there:

    1. The 'Search something…' search bar at the top-right.
    2. The looking glass icon right beside it at the left.

    The latter will allow for refining searches by filtering on topic boards, time periods, forum members, etc.


MusicBee Custom Forum Search

    This one is rather new.   link

    It is using the regular Google search engine, but is tweaked for use with MusicBee topics and search queries.
    Some of the benefits is has over a regular Google search:

    -  it searches both MusicBee's forum and MusicBee's Wiki, ignoring other 'www noise'.
    -  it uses an internal list of synonyms tweaked for this purpose, resulting in more relevant results
    -  its auto-complete suggestions are restricted to forum and Wiki content, vastly improving their value
    -  it will show highlighted auto-completes for certain search terms (recommendations from staff (1), marked by a ⭐)
    -  it will show highlighted search results at the top for certain search terms (relevant reads, suggested by staff (1))
                 (1) 'staff' is you and I.
                       Help improving on this by replying to this thread with good suggestions for highlighted topics.



  It also has some useful options:


Forum vs. Wiki

    By default search results will include both.
    You can narrow the results down to what's on either of them by selecting the appropriate tab.


Dark and Light theme

    The default link to the Custom Forum Search will lead to a dark-themed version.
    If you type 'light' in the search box you will see a link to a light-themed version as the top result.


Synonyms

    this means that you can for example type:

    albumart, and the results will include artwork
    sync, and the results will include synchronise
    theatre mode, and the results will include theatermode
    xmlc, and the results will include bitmapped
    etc.
 
    note that the order of search results may differ depending on the term you use

    There are also some 'shortcut search' abbreviations that are useful when doing a search on some more frequently used, takes-longer-to-type search phrases.
    (see 'Some tips on using search queries' below)


Highlighted auto-completes

    Keep an eye on the auto-completes that show up when you start typing.
    They will usually offer useful suggestions.
    Some will be highlighted with a coloured star, indicating it may especially be worth a read.


Highlighted results at the top of the search page

    These are links to posts, Wiki articles or other content sources  that are deemed highly relevant in regard to the search term used.


 Which brings us to:

An Invitation To Help Improving On Highlighted Search Results

      These highlighted top results are not automatically generated but manually added.
      So this is (and will probably remain) a work in progress.

      You are invited to contribute by helping improving it by making suggestions for additional highlighted results.

      It's best to make suggestions for things that are not already showing up somewhere at the top anyway.

      If you have performed a search on something for which you know valuable content exists on the forum, the Wiki, or maybe the web, and it was not on the first search results page:
      Please make a suggestion for it by simply replying to this thread.

      It should:
       -  include the specific search words or terms
       -  one (or more) links to the proposed content
       -  a brief one-sentence description of it (optional)

      These suggestions are then open to be discussed with other members.


Some tips on using search queries

•  exclude words by prepending them with a minus sign

      e.g.:
      sync -android
      will return results that don't have 'android' in them


•  define a time span

      e.g.:
      android after:2023-1-1
      will show posts containing 'android' for the last 1 1/2 year  (as we speak)

      android before:2020
      will show posts containing 'android' before 2020

      you can also combine the two:
      android after:2024-1-14 before:2024-1-21


•  use OR to add words that are optionally included
    (note that OR actually functions as AND/OR in this situation)

      for example:
      You are looking for a post sometime last year about pitch/speed/bpm, but you are not sure how it was referred to exactly.

      if you e.g. do:
      pitch speed bpm after:2022
      it will only find posts that contain all three words

      if you do:
      pitch OR speed OR bpm after:2022
      all posts that contain either of them will be found

      note:
      Instead of [space]OR[space] you can also use a vertical line:
      pitch|speed|bpm after:2022


•  quick shortcut abbreviations

      These can be used for including a takes-longer-to-type (more frequently used) search term by only typing its abbreviation.

      For now there are:

abbreviation
searches for
atrtadditional tagging & reporting tools
mbmusicbee
tmtheater mode
vtvirtual tag



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                                        happy searching!
 
Last Edit: July 07, 2024, 07:16:57 AM by hiccup

hiccup

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Some useful search terms


When entering a word or a search term in the search bar, the resulting search page may have a  Highlighted Top Result that is considered to be a useful link related to the used search term.
Here is a list of a couple of them that may be helpful when using the Custom Forum Search, or when helping other users that have questions.

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search tips
     opens a link to a forum post that contains some search query tips

light
     opens a link to a light-themed version of the Custom Forum Search page
 
get started
     opens a link to a Wiki section that contains useful information for new users

anatomy
     opens a link to a Wiki section that contains useful information about MusicBee's panels

custom tag
     opens a link to a forum post that explains how to setup a custom tag

virtual tag
     opens a link to a forum page that contains all functions available for virtual tags

skinning
     opens links to forum posts that contain useful information on modifying and creating skins

regex
     opens links to forum posts that contain useful information on regular expressions

tag mapping
     opens forum posts that contain useful information on mapping tags between MusicBee, Mp3tag and Picard

aac
     opens a link to a forum post that explains what to do in case of playback issues with aac/m4a files

linux
     opens links to posts and a Wiki article that contain useful information related to MusicBee on (or for) Linux

complicated
     opens a link to a forum post that contains some suggestions for some good but simpler music players

virus
     opens a link to a forum post that explains why false virus alerts sometimes get triggered
 
Last Edit: July 03, 2024, 06:53:20 PM by hiccup

Dizza17

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Great guide hiccup! Taught me a thing or two.
Cheers
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hiccup

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Thanks for the vriendelijke words!

I've added a couple of 'quick abbreviation shortcuts'.
See (the bottom of) post #1

Let me know if there are other 'takes-long-to-type' search terms that you frequently use that could be a candidate for this.
Last Edit: July 05, 2024, 03:29:23 PM by hiccup