Auto-Tagger

[antiPOP]

Not a real bug, just an issue. I noticed that Auto-Tagger is not able to find tags for many albums from my library, I've tried to find tags using foobar2000 and I found. Here is the example for one album.



Why foobar is able to find tags for an album and MB isn't?

[Steven]

does it find a match if you take away the 8 tracks on disc?
the other thing is i have yet to add discogs as a source for album tracks (its only used for genre at the moment). I wouldnt be surprised if foobar is using discogs

[antiPOP]

There is 8 tracks on the that album.
Foobar isn't using discogs, there is a plugin for discogs but I don't use it. 
If you have installed foobar look at feedb Tagger preferences. MB is using freedb.freedb.org server and foobar is only using freedb2.org server, maybe that makes the difference or not.. dunno. For some reason foobar is more relevant.

[Steven]

for the album auto-tagger, MB is currently only using musicbrainz
MB uses freedb for CD tracks only
i do plan to add discogs and now you mention it, also no reason not to include freedb as a fallback when no match found

[antiPOP]

Yeah, If you add freedb as fallback MB Auto-Tagger will be more relevant.

[VX]

for the album auto-tagger, MB is currently only using musicbrainz
MB uses freedb for CD tracks only
i do plan to add discogs and now you mention it, also no reason not to include freedb as a fallback when no match found

Excellent idea  There are many enhancements suggested for the Auto-Tagger on the Wishlist, but these two improvements would definitely move this tool to the next level.
AntiPOP your comparison of Foobar and MB autotagging capabilities seems to be great stimulus for the long awaited changes  I guess when the enhancements are implemented, no one would even think about using any other app for auto-tagging 

+1

I used many other apps for tagging my audio collection and MB Auto-Tager and Tag Editor is definitely the best one in terms of usability (excellent GUI !!!). But there is certainly room for the improvements when it comes to effectiveness, so adding more web services is a major step forward.

[Steven]

i dont think this is a bug but i have now included freedb if you want to try it out (not discogs as yet)
http://www.mediafire.com/?bun5lbyo4jczjfb

[antiPOP]

Its better, I found tags for Lumina album, but foobar still returns me more result





I figure out why foobar is more relevant. Foobar doesn't need album title or artist name and is just searching tags using discID and thats why is able to find more tags.

[antiPOP]

I just test with the another album and this time Auto-Tagger returns me with wrong tracks tags



I've checked @ cduniverse and discogs and the real tracks list is


I've tried to find tags with foobar and Tag&Rename and both of them returns me with the proper tracks tags





So, I think there is a bug in MusicBee auto-tagger.

[Steven]

there is a couple of bugs with the parsing in those cases for new free-db handler
this should fix them:
http://www.mediafire.com/?2akhyprw4c67m4y

[antiPOP]

Thanks, I got proper tags for Andreas Lonardoni, but still I can't find the tags for Hansford Rowe album. One more thing, searching process is talking too much time.  I think the best solution is to give highest priority to freedb based on discID lookup the same as is for audio cds. MusicBrainz and Discogs (when will be implemented) should work as fallback.

[Steven]

handsford rowe is fine for me - its possble freedb just timed out when you tried
regarding the search time, i usually find musicbrainz fast and freedb much slower. Right now musicbrainz is sometimes very slow

[antiPOP]

Weired. I've tried a few times, not one after the other, and Auto-Tagger always returns me with "No matches found". The last version which I have is 1.2.4074.32059.

[Steven]

can you send a screenshot of the album-autotagger so i can see the exact criteria you are using for the search

[antiPOP]

Here you go: