[WEBSITE v2] MusicBee website and forum redesign

[AvikB]

But by default it will use the posting date for sorting. This way the skin page will look fresh rather than having the same item showing on the first page every time.

OK. Sort of like a 'What's New' feature

yup. I was planning to introduce it in the initial version, but was delayed.

[hiccup]

In my opinion posts with quotes are a bit difficult to quickly take-in.

That might perhaps be improved with some change in coloring.
Currently it's this:



Removing the 'green' from older quotes, and making the text message of the last quote brighter would make that a bit easier and less 'busy':



(I'm pretty sure this is impossible to do, but I couldn't help myself bringing it up anyway ;-)

[AvikB]

In my opinion posts with quotes are a bit difficult to quickly take-in. That might perhaps be improved with some change in coloring. Currently it's this: Removing the 'green' from older quotes, and making the text message of the last quote brighter would make that a bit easier and less 'busy': (I'm pretty sure this is impossible to do, but I couldn't help myself bringing it up anyway ;-)

Did you mean, like the second image you shown? if so it is possible.

[hiccup]

In my opinion posts with quotes are a bit difficult to quickly take-in. That might perhaps be improved with some change in coloring. Currently it's this: Removing the 'green' from older quotes, and making the text message of the last quote brighter would make that a bit easier and less 'busy': (I'm pretty sure this is impossible to do, but I couldn't help myself bringing it up anyway ;-)

Did you mean, like the second image you shown? if so it is possible.

Yes, the second image is my mock-up.
But of course only put time and effort in it if you agree it would be an improvement, and there won't be a risk in 'breaking' anything.

[AvikB]

In my opinion posts with quotes are a bit difficult to quickly take-in. That might perhaps be improved with some change in coloring. Currently it's this: Removing the 'green' from older quotes, and making the text message of the last quote brighter would make that a bit easier and less 'busy': (I'm pretty sure this is impossible to do, but I couldn't help myself bringing it up anyway ;-)

Did you mean, like the second image you shown? if so it is possible.

Yes, the second image is my mock-up. But of course only put time and effort in it if you agree it would be an improvement, and there won't be a risk in 'breaking' anything.

nah it is really easy to do.

[hiccup]

FWIW, I never log off from the MB forum. After 15 minutes(?) of inactivity my name drops off the 'users online' list at the bottom of the main forum page, but I'm still logged in. As long as you're on your own computer, there really doesn't seem to be any reason to log off. This is the only site where I do that.

@AvikB,

Out of curiosity, what does this 15 minute timer consider as being active?
Is it an 'active' action such as posting, or doing moderation etc., or is just having the forum open, refreshing a page or browsing it already considered as 'active'?

[AvikB]

FWIW, I never log off from the MB forum. After 15 minutes(?) of inactivity my name drops off the 'users online' list at the bottom of the main forum page, but I'm still logged in. As long as you're on your own computer, there really doesn't seem to be any reason to log off. This is the only site where I do that.

@AvikB, Out of curiosity, what does this 15 minute timer consider as being active? Is it an 'active' action such as posting, or doing moderation etc., or is just having the forum open, refreshing a page or browsing it already considered as 'active'?

active means you have the browser page to getmusicbee.com/forum opened.
When you have musicbee forum opened your browser actually send some data to musicbee server to let the server know that you are online(or active). nothing else. If you close the musicbee forum website in your browser the server doesn't get the data and register you as offline(inactive).

[hiccup]

active means you have the browser page to getmusicbee.com/forum opened.
When you have musicbee forum opened your browser actually send some data to musicbee server to let the server know that you are online(or active). nothing else. If you close the musicbee forum website in your browser the server doesn't get the data and register you as offline(inactive).

Ok, thnx!

[Steven]

@AvikB, is there any technical reason someone needs to be logged in to like an ADD-ON?

Personally i would prefer anyone could do a like without needing to set up an account. Do any of the skin developers have any comment on that?

[AvikB]

@AvikB, is there any technical reason someone needs to be logged in to like an ADD-ON? Personally i would prefer anyone could do a like without needing to set up an account. Do any of the skin developers have any comment on that?

The login simply works like a verification. Right now one user can like an add-on only one time, the data is stored by their user id, that way they can unlike it. If no vrification is placed and anyone can like it, one can simply create a script to do it automatically. And the only way to verify would be storing IP, which is the least accurate info as it can be changed easily.

Allowing anonymous like would be bad. There would be no way to verify is the person is even real or just a bot. Also one could like add-on multiple times, there won't be anything to verify it.

[boroda]

The login simply works like a verification. Right now one user can like an add-on only one time, the data is stored by their user id, that way they can unlike it. If no vrification is placed and anyone can like it, one can simply create a script to do it automatically. And the only way to verify would be storing IP, which is the least accurate info as it can be changed easily.

what about storing like/unlike data in browser cache? yes, its not ideal/very reliable solution, but i think if somebody very wants to falsificate add-on rating, it will  be possible anyway.

[AvikB]

what about storing like/unlike data in browser cache? yes, its not ideal/very reliable solution,

if we store the like data in their browser cache only he will be able to see it. no one else.

but i think if somebody very wants to falsificate add-on rating, it will be possible anyway.

It is not possible without creating a new forum account. Which is way harder.

[AvikB]

By any chance do you have quick reply disabled? it is placed at the bottom of the page, like this:

Disabled.

Ah, i see. I will post a fix soon.

You're right. With quick reply on, it's working properly.

I just pushed an update, it should be fixed.

[boroda]

what about storing like/unlike data in browser cache? yes, its not ideal/very reliable solution,

if we store the like data in their browser cache only he will be able to see it. no one else.

sorry, i meant not "browser cache", but of course "browser cookie".

[AvikB]

if we store the like data in their browser cache only he will be able to see it. no one else.

sorry, i meant not "browser cache", but of course "browser cookie". [/quote]
One can like an add-on, then clear browser cookie and bam can like again. ofc i can use their IP to make sure same IP user won't be able to like more than one time. But IP can be changed rather easily.
The only safer solution is to have some sort of authentication. Specially verify the user by their email address.