Keywords in Library Explorer / Keep tags when converting

[psychoadept]

Two unrelated requests:

1) Could keywords be added as one of the available categories for Library Explorer please?

2) Regarding this: http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=10882.0.  Please keep ALL tags when converting a file, and also keep all of the replaced file's tags when doing a replacement.  MB keeps losing my MusicBrainz IDs and other info that's not saved in custom tags.

[mrad]

Re:
2) I followed that thread with interest, I like the theory of stripping BS tags e.g. I don't want those picard tags and I have seen other stray tags before that MB would have removed in the current set up.  Conversely, I  would not like tags that I don't know about being stripped without my knowledge during this processing. This is a tricky feature. perhaps a tag exception/inclusion list? I dunno, hmm.

[psychoadept]

Re:
2) I followed that thread with interest, I like the theory of stripping BS tags e.g. I don't want those picard tags and I have seen other stray tags before that MB would have removed in the current set up.  Conversely, I  would not like tags that I don't know about being stripped without my knowledge during this processing. This is a tricky feature. perhaps a tag exception/inclusion list? I dunno, hmm.

I can understand why someone would want to get rid of extraneous tags.  That's part of what I do when I process them in Picard.

The trouble is that there's no way to avoid this "feature" in MB, and there's no reason for the user to think that format converter affects anything except the format.  Likewise, the file replace feature claims to preserve the tags on the replaced file exactly, but it does not.

Sorry, I don't think you need convincing, I'm just griping,    I would think having a separate "tag cleaner" or something would be the ideal solution.  That way people could remove extra tags even if they weren't converting or replacing a file.

[mrad]

The trouble is that there's no way to avoid this "feature" in MB, and there's no reason for the user to think that format converter affects anything except the format.

+1. IMHO, I consider this a bug, a format conversion shouldn't exclude existing tags (I understand this wish items history though).

Likewise, the file replace feature claims to preserve the tags on the replaced file exactly, but it does not.

+1. Again, bug.  I reduced my use of a popular sound editor purely because it strips images from exported files. Lucky MB is a player first for me and I don't venture away from basic tags for this to be an issue - but I totally appreciate the two points raised.

Sorry, I don't think you need convincing, I'm just griping,    I would think having a separate "tag cleaner" or something would be the ideal solution.  That way people could remove extra tags even if they weren't converting or replacing a file.

+1 :-) Yup, I totally agree, a "tag cleaner" is defo an ideal, however, some may consider this a power user feature covered by other tools.

[psychoadept]

Sorry, I don't think you need convincing, I'm just griping,    I would think having a separate "tag cleaner" or something would be the ideal solution.  That way people could remove extra tags even if they weren't converting or replacing a file.

+1 :-) Yup, I totally agree, a "tag cleaner" is defo an ideal, however, some may consider this a power user feature covered by other tools.

Now that I think about it, you can do this with the Remove Tags tool.  You just have to pick which ones to remove yourself.  So a single button "remove unused tags" or something like that would be a handy addition, if folks were really invested in keeping this function of converting/replacing.

[psychoadept]

1) Could keywords be added as one of the available categories for Library Explorer please?

Bump for this piece.  I managed to add it to track browser by making Keywords a "sort by" entry, but it doesn't split them properly.  You get things like "Comedy; Political" separate from Comedy and Political.

[Steven]

I have included Keywords in the Library Explorer and Track Browser
For historical reasons it was using ", " as the separator. I have also now included "; "

http://www.mediafire.com/?w3gh8o0zcyj8faa

[psychoadept]

Thanks a ton, Steven!

[psychoadept]

One small thing I've observed: ";" works for Library Explorer and Track Browser, but not for Tag Inspector.

[Zak]

Mp3tag is great for setting up "one-click" removal of any tags you specify.