Author Topic: Backup Collection function  (Read 830 times)

Jafigg

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Hi,
To update my musicbee files over my backups (I've two) I tried this feature (mainly to make easier to update modified tags on these backups) on a part of my actual musicbee library over the same part of one of my backup..

Source: Folder/subfolders/etc. with 65.701 files

Let's go... Musicbee start to copy about 18.000 files as I see on screen (files that I suppose different in some ways from those on the backup).
Process ended but the target properties says 65.642 files, which does not match.

I first suppose this comes from files that were no more in Musicbee libray anf that I've not deleted in my backups, but it doesn't make sense, The function is intend to delete and copy files on the target to macth the library so number of files should be the same.

I wonder if I can find a log file to see what happens or why there is this difference.

Thank you
Jafigg
Last Edit: October 22, 2023, 05:55:23 PM by Jafigg

phred

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Where are you finding this "Backup Collection Function"? MB doesn't do backups of your music files unless you're using the Send To > Copy function. And if you are, you'd be better off using something like SyncBack Free https://www.2brightsparks.com/download-syncbackfree.html
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Jafigg

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Where are you finding this "Backup Collection Function"? MB doesn't do backups of your music files unless you're using the Send To > Copy function. And if you are, you'd be better off using something like SyncBack Free https://www.2brightsparks.com/download-syncbackfree.html
Hi,
File > Library (Collection, in MB french translation) > Backup Library



Get you here
Last Edit: October 23, 2023, 02:02:14 AM by Jafigg

phred

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Thanks for the clarification and the screenshot.

I believe when that option was initially introduced it was to backup MB's settings. Then Steven expanded it to allow other things to be backed up.

I don't use that feature to backup my music files as I believe it simply copies your files to the target location but doesn't check to see if files have been removed. It just copies. So if you did a backup when you had 10,000 music files and deleted 10 of them and ran another backup without adding any new files, instead of having 9,990, you'd still have 10,000.

As I mentioned previously a free app like SyncBack can be configured so that if doing a source to target backup you can set it so that if a file is on the target that is -not- on the source (because you deleted it, or renamed it, etc) it can delete it. The Pro version has lots of options for what they call "Decisions - File." I'm not sure if the free version does that. I'm not pushing it on you. I'm just letting you know there might be a better way to backup your music files.
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Zak

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... doesn't check to see if files have been removed. It just copies.
I don't use this command either, but the dialog box text explicitly states the opposite.
i.e. In backup terms, it's a mirror operation.

I hadn't heard of SyncBack Free, but screenshots look good.

Free File Sync is another option.
https://freefilesync.org
 
Any dedicated backup program will be more robust than relying on MusicBee to happily copy everything, especially if you're doing anything non-vanilla, like backing up to a network drive.
Bee excellent to each other...

Jafigg

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Thanks for the clarification and the screenshot.

I believe when that option was initially introduced it was to backup MB's settings. Then Steven expanded it to allow other things to be backed up.

I don't use that feature to backup my music files as I believe it simply copies your files to the target location but doesn't check to see if files have been removed. It just copies. So if you did a backup when you had 10,000 music files and deleted 10 of them and ran another backup without adding any new files, instead of having 9,990, you'd still have 10,000.

As I mentioned previously a free app like SyncBack can be configured so that if doing a source to target backup you can set it so that if a file is on the target that is -not- on the source (because you deleted it, or renamed it, etc) it can delete it. The Pro version has lots of options for what they call "Decisions - File." I'm not sure if the free version does that. I'm not pushing it on you. I'm just letting you know there might be a better way to backup your music files.

Thanks for the explaination. I'll give a look to SyncBack

And BTW, if that function (which explicitly describe what it will do, what Zak also noticed) doesn't do the job it should be remove to avoid others the desagrements I had.

Putting this link in Bug section...

Regards,
Jafigg
Last Edit: October 23, 2023, 12:57:11 PM by Jafigg

Jafigg

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Where are you finding this "Backup Collection Function"? MB doesn't do backups of your music files unless you're using the Send To > Copy function. And if you are, you'd be better off using something like SyncBack Free https://www.2brightsparks.com/download-syncbackfree.html

I just tried SyncBack, with a mirror method and guess what ? Exact same mismatch with files number... (!!!)

I'm far from a noob with Windows and MS-DOS, but I must confess that, on this particular point, I really don't understand what's going on.
I update the files by copying with Windows explorer (and ignoring those already in my backpup) and yes, some stuff were copied. After that, files number match (???).
I guess it is NOT an MB bug, it might come from outter space, I suppose.
But maybe i'll go to SyncBack, as it offers a lot more options.

Future will tell...
Last Edit: October 23, 2023, 05:51:32 PM by Jafigg