Author Topic: Question on Album Types (LP's ; EP's ; Singles ; Compilations, etc.)  (Read 565 times)

Fox63

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Hello everybody,

I hope you understand. I don't know the English language well and I used an automatic translator.
i followed this thread and grouping by media type works fine.
I would like, however, that a group "appears in ..."
Example: The Police appear in the compilation: best of '80.
Not only that: even if the Police appear on a Sting album.
Ex. Track 1 from the "example" album by Sting & Police Artist album Sting
If I'm looking at Sting it should be grouped as an ALBUM.
If I'm looking at the Police like "APPEARS IN ..."
I have been experimenting with virtual fields.
If for compilations it is easy: if the album artist field is equal to various artists instead of displaying the grouping field (which I use as a field that defines the media type) it inserts "APPEAR IN ..."
The problem arises when an artist makes a living with a song on another artist's album.
The comparison I tried is always the same whether you look at the first or second artist and therefore the same grouping will always be displayed.
Going back to the example above: in Sting it is grouped as an album, and that's fine, but it also appears in The police which should instead of being grouped as "appears in ..."

I hope it is understandable.

Thank you

Steven

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What MB version are you using? Try updating to v3.5 from the first forum topic

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If I'm looking at Sting it should be grouped as an ALBUM.
If I'm looking at the Police like "APPEARS IN ..."

Hello Fox63,
If I understand well what you wish to do, let me just rephrase your question:

Assumptions:
* "TRACK 1" contains the following fields:
    - ARTIST: Sting; The Police
    - ALBUM ARTIST: Sting
    - ALBUM: Example
* In the LEFT PANEL, you browse by ARTIST.
* In the MAIN PANEL, you display ALBUM COVERS.

Wished result:
* If you select "Sting" in the LEFT PANEL, you will see in the MAIN PANEL a group named "ALBUMS" containing "Example".
* If you select "The Police" in the LEFT PANEL, you will see in the MAIN PANEL a group named "APPEARS IN" containing "Example".

In the current state of MusicBee, it is not possible with virtual tags, since they rely only on field values recorded in the music files themselves, whereas, in order to achieve what you wish, you would need a variable containing the artist currently selected in the LEFT PANEL. To say it with other words: such as variable doesn't exist in MusicBee.

Fox63

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If I'm looking at Sting it should be grouped as an ALBUM.
If I'm looking at the Police like "APPEARS IN ..."

Hello Fox63,
If I understand well what you wish to do, let me just rephrase your question:

Assumptions:
* "TRACK 1" contains the following fields:
    - ARTIST: Sting; The Police
    - ALBUM ARTIST: Sting
    - ALBUM: Example
* In the LEFT PANEL, you browse by ARTIST.
* In the MAIN PANEL, you display ALBUM COVERS.

Wished result:
* If you select "Sting" in the LEFT PANEL, you will see in the MAIN PANEL a group named "ALBUMS" containing "Example".
* If you select "The Police" in the LEFT PANEL, you will see in the MAIN PANEL a group named "APPEARS IN" containing "Example".

In the current state of MusicBee, it is not possible with virtual tags, since they rely only on field values recorded in the music files themselves, whereas, in order to achieve what you wish, you would need a variable containing the artist currently selected in the LEFT PANEL. To say it with other words: such as variable doesn't exist in MusicBee.

Hello karbock,

Thanks a lot for the answer.
That's exactly what I wanted.
Unfortunately I too had come to the same conclusion of the variable that contains the selected artist to then make the comparison with the album artist.
I was hoping there was a trick to get the same result only with virtual fields.
Thanks again.

P.s. we hope it can be implemented one day.

Steven

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Unless i have misunderstood something, thats exactly the way it works but "Appears On" is only supported in the Music Explorer

Fox63

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Unless i have misunderstood something, thats exactly the way it works but "Appears On" is only supported in the Music Explorer

Exactly!!
The grouping by media type in music explorer is done only if the sorting is by album artist but obviously the compilations or album appearances of other artists do not appear.
While in artist order the only order is "appears in" but the rest of the discs are in year order.
However, if media type grouping is used, the order by year is executed as follows:

Immagine sorted by artist first puts the albums in order by year, then starts sorting again by year but by anthology, then moves on to soundtracks and so on.
Since grouping does this, can't you bring up the division?

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Last Edit: September 16, 2022, 07:00:53 AM by Fox63

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I am still not sure what you are saying but in any case I had a look at the grouping handling in the Music Explorer and there were a couple of flaws, so those issues have been fixed.
https://getmusicbee.com/patches/MusicBee35_Patched.zip
unzip and replace the existing musicbee application files

Fox63

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I am still not sure what you are saying but in any case I had a look at the grouping handling in the Music Explorer and there were a couple of flaws, so those issues have been fixed.
https://getmusicbee.com/patches/MusicBee35_Patched.zip
unzip and replace the existing musicbee application files

Magnificent!!! It was just what the music explorer was missing.
Now it works really well.

A thousand thanks