Q: Why "smooth fade when stopping" is not effective in WASAPI?

[butty]

In WASAPI mode, the "smooth fade when stopping" feature is not effective - the sound is not faded on stop.
Is it caused by some limitations of WASAPI? Please tell me the reason.

Thanks in advance.

[Steven]

the handling is no different to ASIO or DirectSound. Its smooth fades the song down to 0 volume over 1/3 of a second.
I agree that for some positions in a song it might be too quick and harsh. As an experiment i can bump of the time to 2/3 of a second and see if thats too slow for people.
I have done that for the next v2.3 update

[butty]

Thanks for the reply.

the handling is no different to ASIO or DirectSound.

Hmm, in my environment, it seems that ASIO is different from DirectSound and WASAPI. In ASIO mode, I can hear the smooth fade, however, in DirectSound and WASAPI mode, I can't...

[ma_t14]

Steven this might worth giving another look into. A similarly strange fade behaviour was reported in another thread as well, not sure if the two are related:

http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=9386.0

Butty I would be interested to hear whether you experience a similar problem as "fungud" in that thread

[butty]

ma_t14, I don't think fungud's problem is the same kind as mine. My problem occurs in a very short period (< 1 sec) and the sound doesn't get smaller, on the other hand, his problem occurs in very long period and the sound gets smaller.

[ma_t14]

ma_t14, I don't think fungud's problem is the same kind as mine. My problem occurs in a very short period (< 1 sec) and the sound doesn't get smaller, on the other hand, his problem occurs in very long period and the sound gets smaller.

Sorry, I might have not explained well. What I meant is, if you follow the steps fungud is doing are you experiencing the same behaviour? I would like to see if both problems are somehow related to using WASAPI.

[Steven]

i dont see how the two are related (and not even convinced fungud's issue was a bug).
As i said i will make a version available that extends the fade down period to see if it makes a diference.

[butty]

ma_t14,
I have followed fungud's steps, and MB just worked well (started fading in 9 minutes, stopped playing in 19 minutes, no quiet until stop).

[Steven]

@butty, as an experiement i have changed the fade period to 1.5 seconds so it should be obvious whether it is fading or not. I am not planning to make it such a long fade period going forward.
The is v2.2 of musicbee.exe

https://www.mediafire.com/?34te2uke7ztgm6k

[butty]

Steven,
I've tested with the test version. The result is the same (WASAPI: no fade, ASIO: long fade).

[butty]

In addition,
changed the sound device from ESI MAYA44 XTe's optical output to mother board's built-in optical output, however, got the same result.

[Steven]

perhaps post a screenshot of your "Player" preferences, although i am struggling to see how anything would make any difference

[butty]

Steven,
I saved the screenshot to http://piulento.net/tmp/MB-20131123.png (Japanese text before "S/PDIF" reads "Digital Audio")

In addition, I noticed that the sound fades in when start playing.

Regards.

[Steven]

nothing unusual and still not something i can reproduce. Looking at the code the only possibility i see is it (intentionally) doesnt do the fading for files played via external plugins such as sub-sonic.
I will have to leave this unsolved.

[Steven]

by the way, using the test version does it stop immediately or after 1.5 seconds?