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Questions / Re: Tags Identifier help Please

Last post by Tan on Today at 04:09:53 AM   |  Started by Tan

I have tried the search bar it just shows your response hiccup. It doesnt lead me to an add-ons page or anything where I can d/load it. Please help!

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MusicBee Wishlist / Re: Explict Tag

Last post by frankz on Today at 03:06:40 AM   |  Started by Bally

I have set up my previously unused Occasion tag as an Explicit indicator and set a highlighting rule that turns the track red in the MB interface when Occasion=Explicit.  I set Picard to make Occasion=Explicit when it sees the iTunes explicit tag. I also have an autoplaylist set up on that condition to filter out those songs when listening around the house.

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MusicBee Wishlist / Explict Tag

Last post by Bally on Today at 01:23:30 AM   |  Started by Bally

You know how iTunes has that red "EXPLICT" tag after track names to indicate profanity in lyrics? I'd love to see that in MusicBee. Just check a box when editing tags and a red "EXPLICT" appears after the track name, because my niece doesn't have to know that Bradley Powell of Sublime plays the guitar like a mother****ing riot.

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Questions / Re: CD rip speed - anyone figure out why this varies so much?

Last post by hiccup on May 05, 2021, 11:27:18 PM   |  Started by greatfox

I experience painfully slow rip speeds as well.

A little bit bored with not much else to (wanting to) do I took a random CD of mine, and ripped it with:

dBpoweramp
EAC
MusicBee

I tried to match their settings.
But while it is considered to be the touchstone of rippers, I (re-learned) that EAC is quite terrible in it's user interface.
So I didn't quite understand how to fine tune it to my preferences.
I ended up just going for 'fast ripping' in some 'wizzard'.

The results:

dBpoweramp : 2:49
EAC fast mode 8:12
MusicBee 2:40

So, I have a clear winner.
Both in user-friendliness and in speed, MusicBee won.

I realise this doesn't mean much, since every system and every CD will be different, and I only tested this with one CD, but I think it shows that any user that has very particular demands on ripping CD's should try a couple of rippers, test them with a couple of CD's, and then stick with the ripper that he likes most.

Unless somebody can point out specific flaws that MusicBee might have where it concerns CD ripping, it will not be productive to post that ripper x ripped cd x faster than MusicBee.

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TheaterMode / Re: Fusion (fullscreen & embedded)

Last post by elThirtie on May 05, 2021, 11:05:37 PM   |  Started by elThirtie

Is there a method to remove the visualizer at the base? I also don’t like it because it overlaps the playback bar...

Open Fusion.xml file and search for <!-- Spectrum Visualiser -->.
To remove the visualizer, delete that line and the next one starting with <element type.
To make it smaller, replace the <element type part with this

Code

<element type="SpectrumVisualiser" xAnchor="Panel.0" x="0" yAnchor="Panel.Bottom" y="-25" widthDock="x:Panel.100" width="0" height="25" fg="50,255,255,255" bdr="10,255,255,255"></element>

Hope that helps.

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Questions / Re: CD rip speed - anyone figure out why this varies so much?

Last post by rmccoy on May 05, 2021, 10:04:32 PM   |  Started by greatfox

I experience painfully slow rip speeds as well.

Unfortunately, the suggestion above is not the cause as I only have Quick Rip selected with Rip speed set to Maximum. Secure Rip & Check C2 Errors are unchecked.  I am running an i7 processor with 32 gig of RAM so I have easily ruled out hardware issues.  Also, the discs I am ripping are spotless.

I'm beginning to thing that this issue is solely a Musicbee issue as I have used iTunes in the past using the same computer and the rip speeds are great.... but it's iTunes.

Has anyone tried unchecking "analyze volume and write replaygain tags" yet to see if that makes a difference?

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Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by hiccup on May 05, 2021, 05:33:33 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I still feel that having the option, perhaps in the delete dialogue, for "Delete from library and playlists" would be a nice feature.

This seems to make sense to me. (if I have grasped what this is all about ;-)
Why would you want to keep songs in a playlist, while you have intentionally deleted them from your library?

Seems like a valid wishlist item to me…

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Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by bigdenver on May 05, 2021, 04:02:08 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I would expect that a file deleted from the library is just that... deleted from the entire library.  The playlist should follow and also remove the track, as it's no longer part of the collection.

I think you should adjust your process to match the way you now know the program works.  We all spend time managing our playlists and libraries, and sometimes it's cumbersome because that's what hobbies sometimes are. 

That's why I said " If that's just the way it is, I'll work around it.".  I still feel that having the option, perhaps in the delete dialogue, for "Delete from library and playlists" would be a nice feature.  Hobbies don't have to necessarily be cumbersome, when the code can easily help with some of the more mundane tasks.  Either way, it's just something I'll deal with.  It's not the end of the world and certainly not a huge issue, and I don't love MB any less for not having this ability.    Thanks for your reply.

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Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by frankz on May 05, 2021, 03:53:23 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I would expect that a file deleted from the library is just that... deleted from the entire library.  The playlist should follow and also remove the track, as it's no longer part of the collection.

I do not agree with this.  Rather than expecting the program to adjust to your specific process, I think you should adjust your process to match the way you now know the program works.  We all spend time managing our playlists and libraries, and sometimes it's cumbersome because that's what hobbies sometimes are.  

I think it is an irregular use to want to keep files around even though you don't want to actually use them for anything besides a sense of album completeness but also simultaneously not care whether that completeness carries over to your library manager.  It's usually one or the other.  You either usually want to totally get rid of them, or you want to see in your library manager that they exist.

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Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by bigdenver on May 05, 2021, 03:27:15 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I can confirm that selecting to delete from both library and filesystem seems to remove it from all playlists.  The option to remove from library only does not update the playlists.

i am now quite confused as to what the issue you are reporting is. This is exactly as I expect MusicBee to behave ie. for physically deleted files, to remove them from any MB playlist, and for files removed only from the library but still present on the computer, to leave them in the playlist

Steven,

  Thanks for the quick response.  I would expect that a file deleted from the library is just that... deleted from the entire library.  The playlist should follow and also remove the track, as it's no longer part of the collection.  Whether it remains on the disk or not seems irrelevant as you have said you no longer want that track in your library at all, but you should still be able to leave it on the hard drive for possible later re-addition and to keep the album as a whole on the hard drive. 

  There are many cases where there are duplicated tracks that may or may not be different (album vs. "greatest hits", radio edits, etc.).  A use case would be where I had only the greatest hits album in my library for a long time, then I got the actual album that some of those tracks appeared on.  Several of those old greatest hits tracks were radio edits, and are now scattered across several playlists. I wish to now "upgrade" those tracks to the album versions.

  After I import the new album, l  delete the old duplicates from the main library so as to not pollute the library with them.  Since they are part of the album on the hard drive, I don't want to physically delete them, just not have them available in the library anymore.  Now I have to go and manually clean all of my playlists of these tracks also?  That's cumbersome when you have more than 20 of them.

  For me, the expected behavior is that when a track is removed from the library, that change should also propagate to any other appearance of that track within MB, such as playlists.  If you are saying that it is designed that way, I will discontinue this thread.  I love MB, but this particular operation goes against functionality in all other music management applications I have used, such as iTunes, MediaMonkey, Twonky, etc.  If that's just the way it is, I'll work around it.

@frankz: I didn't mean to throw off the chain.  I edited my post to reflect the most recent information of the issue, as it became more clear what was really going on.  As there had been no replies yet, I felt it was safe to do so.  Going forward, I will just add additional comments instead of making edits.

Thank you for your hard work on this application and the super fast support responses.  You guys are awesome!

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MusicBee Wishlist / Re: Explict Tag

Last post by frankz on Today at 03:06:40 AM   |  Started by Bally

I have set up my previously unused Occasion tag as an Explicit indicator and set a highlighting rule that turns the track red in the MB interface when Occasion=Explicit.  I set Picard to make Occasion=Explicit when it sees the iTunes explicit tag. I also have an autoplaylist set up on that condition to filter out those songs when listening around the house.

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MusicBee Wishlist / Explict Tag

Last post by Bally on Today at 01:23:30 AM   |  Started by Bally

You know how iTunes has that red "EXPLICT" tag after track names to indicate profanity in lyrics? I'd love to see that in MusicBee. Just check a box when editing tags and a red "EXPLICT" appears after the track name, because my niece doesn't have to know that Bradley Powell of Sublime plays the guitar like a mother****ing riot.

4

Questions / Re: CD rip speed - anyone figure out why this varies so much?

Last post by hiccup on May 05, 2021, 11:27:18 PM   |  Started by greatfox

I experience painfully slow rip speeds as well.

A little bit bored with not much else to (wanting to) do I took a random CD of mine, and ripped it with:

dBpoweramp
EAC
MusicBee

I tried to match their settings.
But while it is considered to be the touchstone of rippers, I (re-learned) that EAC is quite terrible in it's user interface.
So I didn't quite understand how to fine tune it to my preferences.
I ended up just going for 'fast ripping' in some 'wizzard'.

The results:

dBpoweramp : 2:49
EAC fast mode 8:12
MusicBee 2:40

So, I have a clear winner.
Both in user-friendliness and in speed, MusicBee won.

I realise this doesn't mean much, since every system and every CD will be different, and I only tested this with one CD, but I think it shows that any user that has very particular demands on ripping CD's should try a couple of rippers, test them with a couple of CD's, and then stick with the ripper that he likes most.

Unless somebody can point out specific flaws that MusicBee might have where it concerns CD ripping, it will not be productive to post that ripper x ripped cd x faster than MusicBee.

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TheaterMode / Re: Fusion (fullscreen & embedded)

Last post by elThirtie on May 05, 2021, 11:05:37 PM   |  Started by elThirtie

Is there a method to remove the visualizer at the base? I also don’t like it because it overlaps the playback bar...

Open Fusion.xml file and search for <!-- Spectrum Visualiser -->.
To remove the visualizer, delete that line and the next one starting with <element type.
To make it smaller, replace the <element type part with this

Code

<element type="SpectrumVisualiser" xAnchor="Panel.0" x="0" yAnchor="Panel.Bottom" y="-25" widthDock="x:Panel.100" width="0" height="25" fg="50,255,255,255" bdr="10,255,255,255"></element>

Hope that helps.

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Questions / Re: CD rip speed - anyone figure out why this varies so much?

Last post by rmccoy on May 05, 2021, 10:04:32 PM   |  Started by greatfox

I experience painfully slow rip speeds as well.

Unfortunately, the suggestion above is not the cause as I only have Quick Rip selected with Rip speed set to Maximum. Secure Rip & Check C2 Errors are unchecked.  I am running an i7 processor with 32 gig of RAM so I have easily ruled out hardware issues.  Also, the discs I am ripping are spotless.

I'm beginning to thing that this issue is solely a Musicbee issue as I have used iTunes in the past using the same computer and the rip speeds are great.... but it's iTunes.

Has anyone tried unchecking "analyze volume and write replaygain tags" yet to see if that makes a difference?

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Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by hiccup on May 05, 2021, 05:33:33 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I still feel that having the option, perhaps in the delete dialogue, for "Delete from library and playlists" would be a nice feature.

This seems to make sense to me. (if I have grasped what this is all about ;-)
Why would you want to keep songs in a playlist, while you have intentionally deleted them from your library?

Seems like a valid wishlist item to me…

8

Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by bigdenver on May 05, 2021, 04:02:08 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I would expect that a file deleted from the library is just that... deleted from the entire library.  The playlist should follow and also remove the track, as it's no longer part of the collection.

I think you should adjust your process to match the way you now know the program works.  We all spend time managing our playlists and libraries, and sometimes it's cumbersome because that's what hobbies sometimes are. 

That's why I said " If that's just the way it is, I'll work around it.".  I still feel that having the option, perhaps in the delete dialogue, for "Delete from library and playlists" would be a nice feature.  Hobbies don't have to necessarily be cumbersome, when the code can easily help with some of the more mundane tasks.  Either way, it's just something I'll deal with.  It's not the end of the world and certainly not a huge issue, and I don't love MB any less for not having this ability.    Thanks for your reply.

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Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by frankz on May 05, 2021, 03:53:23 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I would expect that a file deleted from the library is just that... deleted from the entire library.  The playlist should follow and also remove the track, as it's no longer part of the collection.

I do not agree with this.  Rather than expecting the program to adjust to your specific process, I think you should adjust your process to match the way you now know the program works.  We all spend time managing our playlists and libraries, and sometimes it's cumbersome because that's what hobbies sometimes are.  

I think it is an irregular use to want to keep files around even though you don't want to actually use them for anything besides a sense of album completeness but also simultaneously not care whether that completeness carries over to your library manager.  It's usually one or the other.  You either usually want to totally get rid of them, or you want to see in your library manager that they exist.

10

Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by bigdenver on May 05, 2021, 03:27:15 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I can confirm that selecting to delete from both library and filesystem seems to remove it from all playlists.  The option to remove from library only does not update the playlists.

i am now quite confused as to what the issue you are reporting is. This is exactly as I expect MusicBee to behave ie. for physically deleted files, to remove them from any MB playlist, and for files removed only from the library but still present on the computer, to leave them in the playlist

Steven,

  Thanks for the quick response.  I would expect that a file deleted from the library is just that... deleted from the entire library.  The playlist should follow and also remove the track, as it's no longer part of the collection.  Whether it remains on the disk or not seems irrelevant as you have said you no longer want that track in your library at all, but you should still be able to leave it on the hard drive for possible later re-addition and to keep the album as a whole on the hard drive. 

  There are many cases where there are duplicated tracks that may or may not be different (album vs. "greatest hits", radio edits, etc.).  A use case would be where I had only the greatest hits album in my library for a long time, then I got the actual album that some of those tracks appeared on.  Several of those old greatest hits tracks were radio edits, and are now scattered across several playlists. I wish to now "upgrade" those tracks to the album versions.

  After I import the new album, l  delete the old duplicates from the main library so as to not pollute the library with them.  Since they are part of the album on the hard drive, I don't want to physically delete them, just not have them available in the library anymore.  Now I have to go and manually clean all of my playlists of these tracks also?  That's cumbersome when you have more than 20 of them.

  For me, the expected behavior is that when a track is removed from the library, that change should also propagate to any other appearance of that track within MB, such as playlists.  If you are saying that it is designed that way, I will discontinue this thread.  I love MB, but this particular operation goes against functionality in all other music management applications I have used, such as iTunes, MediaMonkey, Twonky, etc.  If that's just the way it is, I'll work around it.

@frankz: I didn't mean to throw off the chain.  I edited my post to reflect the most recent information of the issue, as it became more clear what was really going on.  As there had been no replies yet, I felt it was safe to do so.  Going forward, I will just add additional comments instead of making edits.

Thank you for your hard work on this application and the super fast support responses.  You guys are awesome!

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•   Get MusicBee
• Version 3.4.7764
• For Win7/ Win8/ Win10
• Released on April 6, 2021
• Want to get notified of new releases?
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•   Visualizer
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More

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•   Report a bug
•   Add a new feature to the Wishlist
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• Support MusicBee with a voluntary donation
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MusicBee Wishlist / Explict Tag

Last post by Bally on Today at 01:23:30 AM   |  Started by Bally

You know how iTunes has that red "EXPLICT" tag after track names to indicate profanity in lyrics? I'd love to see that in MusicBee. Just check a box when editing tags and a red "EXPLICT" appears after the track name, because my niece doesn't have to know that Bradley Powell of Sublime plays the guitar like a mother****ing riot.

4

Questions / Re: CD rip speed - anyone figure out why this varies so much?

Last post by hiccup on May 05, 2021, 11:27:18 PM   |  Started by greatfox

I experience painfully slow rip speeds as well.

A little bit bored with not much else to (wanting to) do I took a random CD of mine, and ripped it with:

dBpoweramp
EAC
MusicBee

I tried to match their settings.
But while it is considered to be the touchstone of rippers, I (re-learned) that EAC is quite terrible in it's user interface.
So I didn't quite understand how to fine tune it to my preferences.
I ended up just going for 'fast ripping' in some 'wizzard'.

The results:

dBpoweramp : 2:49
EAC fast mode 8:12
MusicBee 2:40

So, I have a clear winner.
Both in user-friendliness and in speed, MusicBee won.

I realise this doesn't mean much, since every system and every CD will be different, and I only tested this with one CD, but I think it shows that any user that has very particular demands on ripping CD's should try a couple of rippers, test them with a couple of CD's, and then stick with the ripper that he likes most.

Unless somebody can point out specific flaws that MusicBee might have where it concerns CD ripping, it will not be productive to post that ripper x ripped cd x faster than MusicBee.

5

TheaterMode / Re: Fusion (fullscreen & embedded)

Last post by elThirtie on May 05, 2021, 11:05:37 PM   |  Started by elThirtie

Is there a method to remove the visualizer at the base? I also don’t like it because it overlaps the playback bar...

Open Fusion.xml file and search for <!-- Spectrum Visualiser -->.
To remove the visualizer, delete that line and the next one starting with <element type.
To make it smaller, replace the <element type part with this

Code

<element type="SpectrumVisualiser" xAnchor="Panel.0" x="0" yAnchor="Panel.Bottom" y="-25" widthDock="x:Panel.100" width="0" height="25" fg="50,255,255,255" bdr="10,255,255,255"></element>

Hope that helps.

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Questions / Re: CD rip speed - anyone figure out why this varies so much?

Last post by rmccoy on May 05, 2021, 10:04:32 PM   |  Started by greatfox

I experience painfully slow rip speeds as well.

Unfortunately, the suggestion above is not the cause as I only have Quick Rip selected with Rip speed set to Maximum. Secure Rip & Check C2 Errors are unchecked.  I am running an i7 processor with 32 gig of RAM so I have easily ruled out hardware issues.  Also, the discs I am ripping are spotless.

I'm beginning to thing that this issue is solely a Musicbee issue as I have used iTunes in the past using the same computer and the rip speeds are great.... but it's iTunes.

Has anyone tried unchecking "analyze volume and write replaygain tags" yet to see if that makes a difference?

7

Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by hiccup on May 05, 2021, 05:33:33 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I still feel that having the option, perhaps in the delete dialogue, for "Delete from library and playlists" would be a nice feature.

This seems to make sense to me. (if I have grasped what this is all about ;-)
Why would you want to keep songs in a playlist, while you have intentionally deleted them from your library?

Seems like a valid wishlist item to me…

8

Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by bigdenver on May 05, 2021, 04:02:08 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I would expect that a file deleted from the library is just that... deleted from the entire library.  The playlist should follow and also remove the track, as it's no longer part of the collection.

I think you should adjust your process to match the way you now know the program works.  We all spend time managing our playlists and libraries, and sometimes it's cumbersome because that's what hobbies sometimes are. 

That's why I said " If that's just the way it is, I'll work around it.".  I still feel that having the option, perhaps in the delete dialogue, for "Delete from library and playlists" would be a nice feature.  Hobbies don't have to necessarily be cumbersome, when the code can easily help with some of the more mundane tasks.  Either way, it's just something I'll deal with.  It's not the end of the world and certainly not a huge issue, and I don't love MB any less for not having this ability.    Thanks for your reply.

9

Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by frankz on May 05, 2021, 03:53:23 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I would expect that a file deleted from the library is just that... deleted from the entire library.  The playlist should follow and also remove the track, as it's no longer part of the collection.

I do not agree with this.  Rather than expecting the program to adjust to your specific process, I think you should adjust your process to match the way you now know the program works.  We all spend time managing our playlists and libraries, and sometimes it's cumbersome because that's what hobbies sometimes are.  

I think it is an irregular use to want to keep files around even though you don't want to actually use them for anything besides a sense of album completeness but also simultaneously not care whether that completeness carries over to your library manager.  It's usually one or the other.  You either usually want to totally get rid of them, or you want to see in your library manager that they exist.

10

Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by bigdenver on May 05, 2021, 03:27:15 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I can confirm that selecting to delete from both library and filesystem seems to remove it from all playlists.  The option to remove from library only does not update the playlists.

i am now quite confused as to what the issue you are reporting is. This is exactly as I expect MusicBee to behave ie. for physically deleted files, to remove them from any MB playlist, and for files removed only from the library but still present on the computer, to leave them in the playlist

Steven,

  Thanks for the quick response.  I would expect that a file deleted from the library is just that... deleted from the entire library.  The playlist should follow and also remove the track, as it's no longer part of the collection.  Whether it remains on the disk or not seems irrelevant as you have said you no longer want that track in your library at all, but you should still be able to leave it on the hard drive for possible later re-addition and to keep the album as a whole on the hard drive. 

  There are many cases where there are duplicated tracks that may or may not be different (album vs. "greatest hits", radio edits, etc.).  A use case would be where I had only the greatest hits album in my library for a long time, then I got the actual album that some of those tracks appeared on.  Several of those old greatest hits tracks were radio edits, and are now scattered across several playlists. I wish to now "upgrade" those tracks to the album versions.

  After I import the new album, l  delete the old duplicates from the main library so as to not pollute the library with them.  Since they are part of the album on the hard drive, I don't want to physically delete them, just not have them available in the library anymore.  Now I have to go and manually clean all of my playlists of these tracks also?  That's cumbersome when you have more than 20 of them.

  For me, the expected behavior is that when a track is removed from the library, that change should also propagate to any other appearance of that track within MB, such as playlists.  If you are saying that it is designed that way, I will discontinue this thread.  I love MB, but this particular operation goes against functionality in all other music management applications I have used, such as iTunes, MediaMonkey, Twonky, etc.  If that's just the way it is, I'll work around it.

@frankz: I didn't mean to throw off the chain.  I edited my post to reflect the most recent information of the issue, as it became more clear what was really going on.  As there had been no replies yet, I felt it was safe to do so.  Going forward, I will just add additional comments instead of making edits.

Thank you for your hard work on this application and the super fast support responses.  You guys are awesome!

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Get MusicBee

•   Get MusicBee
• Version 3.4.7764
• For Win7/ Win8/ Win10
• Released on April 6, 2021
• Want to get notified of new releases?
•   Subscribe to RSS   Twitter

Add-ons for MusicBee

•   Skins
•   Plugins
•   Visualizer
•   Theater Mode
•   Misc

More

•   Developer API
•   Report a bug
•   Add a new feature to the Wishlist
•   Press & Media
• Support MusicBee with a voluntary donation
•   Donate with Paypal

• Site built with for the community   |   v1.9.5

  Copyright © Steven Mayall 2008-2021, All Rights Reserved.

• English (en-us)Russian (ru-ru)

SMF 2.0.17 | SMF © 2019, Simple Machines

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Questions / Re: CD rip speed - anyone figure out why this varies so much?

Last post by hiccup on May 05, 2021, 11:27:18 PM   |  Started by greatfox

I experience painfully slow rip speeds as well.

A little bit bored with not much else to (wanting to) do I took a random CD of mine, and ripped it with:

dBpoweramp
EAC
MusicBee

I tried to match their settings.
But while it is considered to be the touchstone of rippers, I (re-learned) that EAC is quite terrible in it's user interface.
So I didn't quite understand how to fine tune it to my preferences.
I ended up just going for 'fast ripping' in some 'wizzard'.

The results:

dBpoweramp : 2:49
EAC fast mode 8:12
MusicBee 2:40

So, I have a clear winner.
Both in user-friendliness and in speed, MusicBee won.

I realise this doesn't mean much, since every system and every CD will be different, and I only tested this with one CD, but I think it shows that any user that has very particular demands on ripping CD's should try a couple of rippers, test them with a couple of CD's, and then stick with the ripper that he likes most.

Unless somebody can point out specific flaws that MusicBee might have where it concerns CD ripping, it will not be productive to post that ripper x ripped cd x faster than MusicBee.

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TheaterMode / Re: Fusion (fullscreen & embedded)

Last post by elThirtie on May 05, 2021, 11:05:37 PM   |  Started by elThirtie

Is there a method to remove the visualizer at the base? I also don’t like it because it overlaps the playback bar...

Open Fusion.xml file and search for <!-- Spectrum Visualiser -->.
To remove the visualizer, delete that line and the next one starting with <element type.
To make it smaller, replace the <element type part with this

Code

<element type="SpectrumVisualiser" xAnchor="Panel.0" x="0" yAnchor="Panel.Bottom" y="-25" widthDock="x:Panel.100" width="0" height="25" fg="50,255,255,255" bdr="10,255,255,255"></element>

Hope that helps.

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Questions / Re: CD rip speed - anyone figure out why this varies so much?

Last post by rmccoy on May 05, 2021, 10:04:32 PM   |  Started by greatfox

I experience painfully slow rip speeds as well.

Unfortunately, the suggestion above is not the cause as I only have Quick Rip selected with Rip speed set to Maximum. Secure Rip & Check C2 Errors are unchecked.  I am running an i7 processor with 32 gig of RAM so I have easily ruled out hardware issues.  Also, the discs I am ripping are spotless.

I'm beginning to thing that this issue is solely a Musicbee issue as I have used iTunes in the past using the same computer and the rip speeds are great.... but it's iTunes.

Has anyone tried unchecking "analyze volume and write replaygain tags" yet to see if that makes a difference?

7

Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by hiccup on May 05, 2021, 05:33:33 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I still feel that having the option, perhaps in the delete dialogue, for "Delete from library and playlists" would be a nice feature.

This seems to make sense to me. (if I have grasped what this is all about ;-)
Why would you want to keep songs in a playlist, while you have intentionally deleted them from your library?

Seems like a valid wishlist item to me…

8

Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by bigdenver on May 05, 2021, 04:02:08 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I would expect that a file deleted from the library is just that... deleted from the entire library.  The playlist should follow and also remove the track, as it's no longer part of the collection.

I think you should adjust your process to match the way you now know the program works.  We all spend time managing our playlists and libraries, and sometimes it's cumbersome because that's what hobbies sometimes are. 

That's why I said " If that's just the way it is, I'll work around it.".  I still feel that having the option, perhaps in the delete dialogue, for "Delete from library and playlists" would be a nice feature.  Hobbies don't have to necessarily be cumbersome, when the code can easily help with some of the more mundane tasks.  Either way, it's just something I'll deal with.  It's not the end of the world and certainly not a huge issue, and I don't love MB any less for not having this ability.    Thanks for your reply.

9

Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by frankz on May 05, 2021, 03:53:23 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I would expect that a file deleted from the library is just that... deleted from the entire library.  The playlist should follow and also remove the track, as it's no longer part of the collection.

I do not agree with this.  Rather than expecting the program to adjust to your specific process, I think you should adjust your process to match the way you now know the program works.  We all spend time managing our playlists and libraries, and sometimes it's cumbersome because that's what hobbies sometimes are.  

I think it is an irregular use to want to keep files around even though you don't want to actually use them for anything besides a sense of album completeness but also simultaneously not care whether that completeness carries over to your library manager.  It's usually one or the other.  You either usually want to totally get rid of them, or you want to see in your library manager that they exist.

10

Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by bigdenver on May 05, 2021, 03:27:15 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I can confirm that selecting to delete from both library and filesystem seems to remove it from all playlists.  The option to remove from library only does not update the playlists.

i am now quite confused as to what the issue you are reporting is. This is exactly as I expect MusicBee to behave ie. for physically deleted files, to remove them from any MB playlist, and for files removed only from the library but still present on the computer, to leave them in the playlist

Steven,

  Thanks for the quick response.  I would expect that a file deleted from the library is just that... deleted from the entire library.  The playlist should follow and also remove the track, as it's no longer part of the collection.  Whether it remains on the disk or not seems irrelevant as you have said you no longer want that track in your library at all, but you should still be able to leave it on the hard drive for possible later re-addition and to keep the album as a whole on the hard drive. 

  There are many cases where there are duplicated tracks that may or may not be different (album vs. "greatest hits", radio edits, etc.).  A use case would be where I had only the greatest hits album in my library for a long time, then I got the actual album that some of those tracks appeared on.  Several of those old greatest hits tracks were radio edits, and are now scattered across several playlists. I wish to now "upgrade" those tracks to the album versions.

  After I import the new album, l  delete the old duplicates from the main library so as to not pollute the library with them.  Since they are part of the album on the hard drive, I don't want to physically delete them, just not have them available in the library anymore.  Now I have to go and manually clean all of my playlists of these tracks also?  That's cumbersome when you have more than 20 of them.

  For me, the expected behavior is that when a track is removed from the library, that change should also propagate to any other appearance of that track within MB, such as playlists.  If you are saying that it is designed that way, I will discontinue this thread.  I love MB, but this particular operation goes against functionality in all other music management applications I have used, such as iTunes, MediaMonkey, Twonky, etc.  If that's just the way it is, I'll work around it.

@frankz: I didn't mean to throw off the chain.  I edited my post to reflect the most recent information of the issue, as it became more clear what was really going on.  As there had been no replies yet, I felt it was safe to do so.  Going forward, I will just add additional comments instead of making edits.

Thank you for your hard work on this application and the super fast support responses.  You guys are awesome!

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TheaterMode / Re: Fusion (fullscreen & embedded)

Last post by elThirtie on May 05, 2021, 11:05:37 PM   |  Started by elThirtie

Is there a method to remove the visualizer at the base? I also don’t like it because it overlaps the playback bar...

Open Fusion.xml file and search for <!-- Spectrum Visualiser -->.
To remove the visualizer, delete that line and the next one starting with <element type.
To make it smaller, replace the <element type part with this

Code

<element type="SpectrumVisualiser" xAnchor="Panel.0" x="0" yAnchor="Panel.Bottom" y="-25" widthDock="x:Panel.100" width="0" height="25" fg="50,255,255,255" bdr="10,255,255,255"></element>

Hope that helps.

6

Questions / Re: CD rip speed - anyone figure out why this varies so much?

Last post by rmccoy on May 05, 2021, 10:04:32 PM   |  Started by greatfox

I experience painfully slow rip speeds as well.

Unfortunately, the suggestion above is not the cause as I only have Quick Rip selected with Rip speed set to Maximum. Secure Rip & Check C2 Errors are unchecked.  I am running an i7 processor with 32 gig of RAM so I have easily ruled out hardware issues.  Also, the discs I am ripping are spotless.

I'm beginning to thing that this issue is solely a Musicbee issue as I have used iTunes in the past using the same computer and the rip speeds are great.... but it's iTunes.

Has anyone tried unchecking "analyze volume and write replaygain tags" yet to see if that makes a difference?

7

Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by hiccup on May 05, 2021, 05:33:33 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I still feel that having the option, perhaps in the delete dialogue, for "Delete from library and playlists" would be a nice feature.

This seems to make sense to me. (if I have grasped what this is all about ;-)
Why would you want to keep songs in a playlist, while you have intentionally deleted them from your library?

Seems like a valid wishlist item to me…

8

Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by bigdenver on May 05, 2021, 04:02:08 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I would expect that a file deleted from the library is just that... deleted from the entire library.  The playlist should follow and also remove the track, as it's no longer part of the collection.

I think you should adjust your process to match the way you now know the program works.  We all spend time managing our playlists and libraries, and sometimes it's cumbersome because that's what hobbies sometimes are. 

That's why I said " If that's just the way it is, I'll work around it.".  I still feel that having the option, perhaps in the delete dialogue, for "Delete from library and playlists" would be a nice feature.  Hobbies don't have to necessarily be cumbersome, when the code can easily help with some of the more mundane tasks.  Either way, it's just something I'll deal with.  It's not the end of the world and certainly not a huge issue, and I don't love MB any less for not having this ability.    Thanks for your reply.

9

Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by frankz on May 05, 2021, 03:53:23 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I would expect that a file deleted from the library is just that... deleted from the entire library.  The playlist should follow and also remove the track, as it's no longer part of the collection.

I do not agree with this.  Rather than expecting the program to adjust to your specific process, I think you should adjust your process to match the way you now know the program works.  We all spend time managing our playlists and libraries, and sometimes it's cumbersome because that's what hobbies sometimes are.  

I think it is an irregular use to want to keep files around even though you don't want to actually use them for anything besides a sense of album completeness but also simultaneously not care whether that completeness carries over to your library manager.  It's usually one or the other.  You either usually want to totally get rid of them, or you want to see in your library manager that they exist.

10

Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by bigdenver on May 05, 2021, 03:27:15 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I can confirm that selecting to delete from both library and filesystem seems to remove it from all playlists.  The option to remove from library only does not update the playlists.

i am now quite confused as to what the issue you are reporting is. This is exactly as I expect MusicBee to behave ie. for physically deleted files, to remove them from any MB playlist, and for files removed only from the library but still present on the computer, to leave them in the playlist

Steven,

  Thanks for the quick response.  I would expect that a file deleted from the library is just that... deleted from the entire library.  The playlist should follow and also remove the track, as it's no longer part of the collection.  Whether it remains on the disk or not seems irrelevant as you have said you no longer want that track in your library at all, but you should still be able to leave it on the hard drive for possible later re-addition and to keep the album as a whole on the hard drive. 

  There are many cases where there are duplicated tracks that may or may not be different (album vs. "greatest hits", radio edits, etc.).  A use case would be where I had only the greatest hits album in my library for a long time, then I got the actual album that some of those tracks appeared on.  Several of those old greatest hits tracks were radio edits, and are now scattered across several playlists. I wish to now "upgrade" those tracks to the album versions.

  After I import the new album, l  delete the old duplicates from the main library so as to not pollute the library with them.  Since they are part of the album on the hard drive, I don't want to physically delete them, just not have them available in the library anymore.  Now I have to go and manually clean all of my playlists of these tracks also?  That's cumbersome when you have more than 20 of them.

  For me, the expected behavior is that when a track is removed from the library, that change should also propagate to any other appearance of that track within MB, such as playlists.  If you are saying that it is designed that way, I will discontinue this thread.  I love MB, but this particular operation goes against functionality in all other music management applications I have used, such as iTunes, MediaMonkey, Twonky, etc.  If that's just the way it is, I'll work around it.

@frankz: I didn't mean to throw off the chain.  I edited my post to reflect the most recent information of the issue, as it became more clear what was really going on.  As there had been no replies yet, I felt it was safe to do so.  Going forward, I will just add additional comments instead of making edits.

Thank you for your hard work on this application and the super fast support responses.  You guys are awesome!

Pages: 12 3 ... 10

Get MusicBee

•   Get MusicBee
• Version 3.4.7764
• For Win7/ Win8/ Win10
• Released on April 6, 2021
• Want to get notified of new releases?
•   Subscribe to RSS   Twitter

Add-ons for MusicBee

•   Skins
•   Plugins
•   Visualizer
•   Theater Mode
•   Misc

More

•   Developer API
•   Report a bug
•   Add a new feature to the Wishlist
•   Press & Media
• Support MusicBee with a voluntary donation
•   Donate with Paypal

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Questions / Re: CD rip speed - anyone figure out why this varies so much?

Last post by rmccoy on May 05, 2021, 10:04:32 PM   |  Started by greatfox

I experience painfully slow rip speeds as well.

Unfortunately, the suggestion above is not the cause as I only have Quick Rip selected with Rip speed set to Maximum. Secure Rip & Check C2 Errors are unchecked.  I am running an i7 processor with 32 gig of RAM so I have easily ruled out hardware issues.  Also, the discs I am ripping are spotless.

I'm beginning to thing that this issue is solely a Musicbee issue as I have used iTunes in the past using the same computer and the rip speeds are great.... but it's iTunes.

Has anyone tried unchecking "analyze volume and write replaygain tags" yet to see if that makes a difference?

7

Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by hiccup on May 05, 2021, 05:33:33 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I still feel that having the option, perhaps in the delete dialogue, for "Delete from library and playlists" would be a nice feature.

This seems to make sense to me. (if I have grasped what this is all about ;-)
Why would you want to keep songs in a playlist, while you have intentionally deleted them from your library?

Seems like a valid wishlist item to me…

8

Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by bigdenver on May 05, 2021, 04:02:08 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I would expect that a file deleted from the library is just that... deleted from the entire library.  The playlist should follow and also remove the track, as it's no longer part of the collection.

I think you should adjust your process to match the way you now know the program works.  We all spend time managing our playlists and libraries, and sometimes it's cumbersome because that's what hobbies sometimes are. 

That's why I said " If that's just the way it is, I'll work around it.".  I still feel that having the option, perhaps in the delete dialogue, for "Delete from library and playlists" would be a nice feature.  Hobbies don't have to necessarily be cumbersome, when the code can easily help with some of the more mundane tasks.  Either way, it's just something I'll deal with.  It's not the end of the world and certainly not a huge issue, and I don't love MB any less for not having this ability.    Thanks for your reply.

9

Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by frankz on May 05, 2021, 03:53:23 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I would expect that a file deleted from the library is just that... deleted from the entire library.  The playlist should follow and also remove the track, as it's no longer part of the collection.

I do not agree with this.  Rather than expecting the program to adjust to your specific process, I think you should adjust your process to match the way you now know the program works.  We all spend time managing our playlists and libraries, and sometimes it's cumbersome because that's what hobbies sometimes are.  

I think it is an irregular use to want to keep files around even though you don't want to actually use them for anything besides a sense of album completeness but also simultaneously not care whether that completeness carries over to your library manager.  It's usually one or the other.  You either usually want to totally get rid of them, or you want to see in your library manager that they exist.

10

Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by bigdenver on May 05, 2021, 03:27:15 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I can confirm that selecting to delete from both library and filesystem seems to remove it from all playlists.  The option to remove from library only does not update the playlists.

i am now quite confused as to what the issue you are reporting is. This is exactly as I expect MusicBee to behave ie. for physically deleted files, to remove them from any MB playlist, and for files removed only from the library but still present on the computer, to leave them in the playlist

Steven,

  Thanks for the quick response.  I would expect that a file deleted from the library is just that... deleted from the entire library.  The playlist should follow and also remove the track, as it's no longer part of the collection.  Whether it remains on the disk or not seems irrelevant as you have said you no longer want that track in your library at all, but you should still be able to leave it on the hard drive for possible later re-addition and to keep the album as a whole on the hard drive. 

  There are many cases where there are duplicated tracks that may or may not be different (album vs. "greatest hits", radio edits, etc.).  A use case would be where I had only the greatest hits album in my library for a long time, then I got the actual album that some of those tracks appeared on.  Several of those old greatest hits tracks were radio edits, and are now scattered across several playlists. I wish to now "upgrade" those tracks to the album versions.

  After I import the new album, l  delete the old duplicates from the main library so as to not pollute the library with them.  Since they are part of the album on the hard drive, I don't want to physically delete them, just not have them available in the library anymore.  Now I have to go and manually clean all of my playlists of these tracks also?  That's cumbersome when you have more than 20 of them.

  For me, the expected behavior is that when a track is removed from the library, that change should also propagate to any other appearance of that track within MB, such as playlists.  If you are saying that it is designed that way, I will discontinue this thread.  I love MB, but this particular operation goes against functionality in all other music management applications I have used, such as iTunes, MediaMonkey, Twonky, etc.  If that's just the way it is, I'll work around it.

@frankz: I didn't mean to throw off the chain.  I edited my post to reflect the most recent information of the issue, as it became more clear what was really going on.  As there had been no replies yet, I felt it was safe to do so.  Going forward, I will just add additional comments instead of making edits.

Thank you for your hard work on this application and the super fast support responses.  You guys are awesome!

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Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by hiccup on May 05, 2021, 05:33:33 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I still feel that having the option, perhaps in the delete dialogue, for "Delete from library and playlists" would be a nice feature.

This seems to make sense to me. (if I have grasped what this is all about ;-)
Why would you want to keep songs in a playlist, while you have intentionally deleted them from your library?

Seems like a valid wishlist item to me…

8

Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by bigdenver on May 05, 2021, 04:02:08 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I would expect that a file deleted from the library is just that... deleted from the entire library.  The playlist should follow and also remove the track, as it's no longer part of the collection.

I think you should adjust your process to match the way you now know the program works.  We all spend time managing our playlists and libraries, and sometimes it's cumbersome because that's what hobbies sometimes are. 

That's why I said " If that's just the way it is, I'll work around it.".  I still feel that having the option, perhaps in the delete dialogue, for "Delete from library and playlists" would be a nice feature.  Hobbies don't have to necessarily be cumbersome, when the code can easily help with some of the more mundane tasks.  Either way, it's just something I'll deal with.  It's not the end of the world and certainly not a huge issue, and I don't love MB any less for not having this ability.    Thanks for your reply.

9

Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by frankz on May 05, 2021, 03:53:23 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I would expect that a file deleted from the library is just that... deleted from the entire library.  The playlist should follow and also remove the track, as it's no longer part of the collection.

I do not agree with this.  Rather than expecting the program to adjust to your specific process, I think you should adjust your process to match the way you now know the program works.  We all spend time managing our playlists and libraries, and sometimes it's cumbersome because that's what hobbies sometimes are.  

I think it is an irregular use to want to keep files around even though you don't want to actually use them for anything besides a sense of album completeness but also simultaneously not care whether that completeness carries over to your library manager.  It's usually one or the other.  You either usually want to totally get rid of them, or you want to see in your library manager that they exist.

10

Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by bigdenver on May 05, 2021, 03:27:15 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I can confirm that selecting to delete from both library and filesystem seems to remove it from all playlists.  The option to remove from library only does not update the playlists.

i am now quite confused as to what the issue you are reporting is. This is exactly as I expect MusicBee to behave ie. for physically deleted files, to remove them from any MB playlist, and for files removed only from the library but still present on the computer, to leave them in the playlist

Steven,

  Thanks for the quick response.  I would expect that a file deleted from the library is just that... deleted from the entire library.  The playlist should follow and also remove the track, as it's no longer part of the collection.  Whether it remains on the disk or not seems irrelevant as you have said you no longer want that track in your library at all, but you should still be able to leave it on the hard drive for possible later re-addition and to keep the album as a whole on the hard drive. 

  There are many cases where there are duplicated tracks that may or may not be different (album vs. "greatest hits", radio edits, etc.).  A use case would be where I had only the greatest hits album in my library for a long time, then I got the actual album that some of those tracks appeared on.  Several of those old greatest hits tracks were radio edits, and are now scattered across several playlists. I wish to now "upgrade" those tracks to the album versions.

  After I import the new album, l  delete the old duplicates from the main library so as to not pollute the library with them.  Since they are part of the album on the hard drive, I don't want to physically delete them, just not have them available in the library anymore.  Now I have to go and manually clean all of my playlists of these tracks also?  That's cumbersome when you have more than 20 of them.

  For me, the expected behavior is that when a track is removed from the library, that change should also propagate to any other appearance of that track within MB, such as playlists.  If you are saying that it is designed that way, I will discontinue this thread.  I love MB, but this particular operation goes against functionality in all other music management applications I have used, such as iTunes, MediaMonkey, Twonky, etc.  If that's just the way it is, I'll work around it.

@frankz: I didn't mean to throw off the chain.  I edited my post to reflect the most recent information of the issue, as it became more clear what was really going on.  As there had been no replies yet, I felt it was safe to do so.  Going forward, I will just add additional comments instead of making edits.

Thank you for your hard work on this application and the super fast support responses.  You guys are awesome!

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Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by bigdenver on May 05, 2021, 04:02:08 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I would expect that a file deleted from the library is just that... deleted from the entire library.  The playlist should follow and also remove the track, as it's no longer part of the collection.

I think you should adjust your process to match the way you now know the program works.  We all spend time managing our playlists and libraries, and sometimes it's cumbersome because that's what hobbies sometimes are. 

That's why I said " If that's just the way it is, I'll work around it.".  I still feel that having the option, perhaps in the delete dialogue, for "Delete from library and playlists" would be a nice feature.  Hobbies don't have to necessarily be cumbersome, when the code can easily help with some of the more mundane tasks.  Either way, it's just something I'll deal with.  It's not the end of the world and certainly not a huge issue, and I don't love MB any less for not having this ability.    Thanks for your reply.

9

Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by frankz on May 05, 2021, 03:53:23 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I would expect that a file deleted from the library is just that... deleted from the entire library.  The playlist should follow and also remove the track, as it's no longer part of the collection.

I do not agree with this.  Rather than expecting the program to adjust to your specific process, I think you should adjust your process to match the way you now know the program works.  We all spend time managing our playlists and libraries, and sometimes it's cumbersome because that's what hobbies sometimes are.  

I think it is an irregular use to want to keep files around even though you don't want to actually use them for anything besides a sense of album completeness but also simultaneously not care whether that completeness carries over to your library manager.  It's usually one or the other.  You either usually want to totally get rid of them, or you want to see in your library manager that they exist.

10

Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by bigdenver on May 05, 2021, 03:27:15 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I can confirm that selecting to delete from both library and filesystem seems to remove it from all playlists.  The option to remove from library only does not update the playlists.

i am now quite confused as to what the issue you are reporting is. This is exactly as I expect MusicBee to behave ie. for physically deleted files, to remove them from any MB playlist, and for files removed only from the library but still present on the computer, to leave them in the playlist

Steven,

  Thanks for the quick response.  I would expect that a file deleted from the library is just that... deleted from the entire library.  The playlist should follow and also remove the track, as it's no longer part of the collection.  Whether it remains on the disk or not seems irrelevant as you have said you no longer want that track in your library at all, but you should still be able to leave it on the hard drive for possible later re-addition and to keep the album as a whole on the hard drive. 

  There are many cases where there are duplicated tracks that may or may not be different (album vs. "greatest hits", radio edits, etc.).  A use case would be where I had only the greatest hits album in my library for a long time, then I got the actual album that some of those tracks appeared on.  Several of those old greatest hits tracks were radio edits, and are now scattered across several playlists. I wish to now "upgrade" those tracks to the album versions.

  After I import the new album, l  delete the old duplicates from the main library so as to not pollute the library with them.  Since they are part of the album on the hard drive, I don't want to physically delete them, just not have them available in the library anymore.  Now I have to go and manually clean all of my playlists of these tracks also?  That's cumbersome when you have more than 20 of them.

  For me, the expected behavior is that when a track is removed from the library, that change should also propagate to any other appearance of that track within MB, such as playlists.  If you are saying that it is designed that way, I will discontinue this thread.  I love MB, but this particular operation goes against functionality in all other music management applications I have used, such as iTunes, MediaMonkey, Twonky, etc.  If that's just the way it is, I'll work around it.

@frankz: I didn't mean to throw off the chain.  I edited my post to reflect the most recent information of the issue, as it became more clear what was really going on.  As there had been no replies yet, I felt it was safe to do so.  Going forward, I will just add additional comments instead of making edits.

Thank you for your hard work on this application and the super fast support responses.  You guys are awesome!

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Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by frankz on May 05, 2021, 03:53:23 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I would expect that a file deleted from the library is just that... deleted from the entire library.  The playlist should follow and also remove the track, as it's no longer part of the collection.

I do not agree with this.  Rather than expecting the program to adjust to your specific process, I think you should adjust your process to match the way you now know the program works.  We all spend time managing our playlists and libraries, and sometimes it's cumbersome because that's what hobbies sometimes are.  

I think it is an irregular use to want to keep files around even though you don't want to actually use them for anything besides a sense of album completeness but also simultaneously not care whether that completeness carries over to your library manager.  It's usually one or the other.  You either usually want to totally get rid of them, or you want to see in your library manager that they exist.

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Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by bigdenver on May 05, 2021, 03:27:15 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I can confirm that selecting to delete from both library and filesystem seems to remove it from all playlists.  The option to remove from library only does not update the playlists.

i am now quite confused as to what the issue you are reporting is. This is exactly as I expect MusicBee to behave ie. for physically deleted files, to remove them from any MB playlist, and for files removed only from the library but still present on the computer, to leave them in the playlist

Steven,

  Thanks for the quick response.  I would expect that a file deleted from the library is just that... deleted from the entire library.  The playlist should follow and also remove the track, as it's no longer part of the collection.  Whether it remains on the disk or not seems irrelevant as you have said you no longer want that track in your library at all, but you should still be able to leave it on the hard drive for possible later re-addition and to keep the album as a whole on the hard drive. 

  There are many cases where there are duplicated tracks that may or may not be different (album vs. "greatest hits", radio edits, etc.).  A use case would be where I had only the greatest hits album in my library for a long time, then I got the actual album that some of those tracks appeared on.  Several of those old greatest hits tracks were radio edits, and are now scattered across several playlists. I wish to now "upgrade" those tracks to the album versions.

  After I import the new album, l  delete the old duplicates from the main library so as to not pollute the library with them.  Since they are part of the album on the hard drive, I don't want to physically delete them, just not have them available in the library anymore.  Now I have to go and manually clean all of my playlists of these tracks also?  That's cumbersome when you have more than 20 of them.

  For me, the expected behavior is that when a track is removed from the library, that change should also propagate to any other appearance of that track within MB, such as playlists.  If you are saying that it is designed that way, I will discontinue this thread.  I love MB, but this particular operation goes against functionality in all other music management applications I have used, such as iTunes, MediaMonkey, Twonky, etc.  If that's just the way it is, I'll work around it.

@frankz: I didn't mean to throw off the chain.  I edited my post to reflect the most recent information of the issue, as it became more clear what was really going on.  As there had been no replies yet, I felt it was safe to do so.  Going forward, I will just add additional comments instead of making edits.

Thank you for your hard work on this application and the super fast support responses.  You guys are awesome!

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Bug Reports / Re: Removing track from library only sometimes deletes from playlists

Last post by bigdenver on May 05, 2021, 03:27:15 PM   |  Started by bigdenver

I can confirm that selecting to delete from both library and filesystem seems to remove it from all playlists.  The option to remove from library only does not update the playlists.

i am now quite confused as to what the issue you are reporting is. This is exactly as I expect MusicBee to behave ie. for physically deleted files, to remove them from any MB playlist, and for files removed only from the library but still present on the computer, to leave them in the playlist

Steven,

  Thanks for the quick response.  I would expect that a file deleted from the library is just that... deleted from the entire library.  The playlist should follow and also remove the track, as it's no longer part of the collection.  Whether it remains on the disk or not seems irrelevant as you have said you no longer want that track in your library at all, but you should still be able to leave it on the hard drive for possible later re-addition and to keep the album as a whole on the hard drive. 

  There are many cases where there are duplicated tracks that may or may not be different (album vs. "greatest hits", radio edits, etc.).  A use case would be where I had only the greatest hits album in my library for a long time, then I got the actual album that some of those tracks appeared on.  Several of those old greatest hits tracks were radio edits, and are now scattered across several playlists. I wish to now "upgrade" those tracks to the album versions.

  After I import the new album, l  delete the old duplicates from the main library so as to not pollute the library with them.  Since they are part of the album on the hard drive, I don't want to physically delete them, just not have them available in the library anymore.  Now I have to go and manually clean all of my playlists of these tracks also?  That's cumbersome when you have more than 20 of them.

  For me, the expected behavior is that when a track is removed from the library, that change should also propagate to any other appearance of that track within MB, such as playlists.  If you are saying that it is designed that way, I will discontinue this thread.  I love MB, but this particular operation goes against functionality in all other music management applications I have used, such as iTunes, MediaMonkey, Twonky, etc.  If that's just the way it is, I'll work around it.

@frankz: I didn't mean to throw off the chain.  I edited my post to reflect the most recent information of the issue, as it became more clear what was really going on.  As there had been no replies yet, I felt it was safe to do so.  Going forward, I will just add additional comments instead of making edits.

Thank you for your hard work on this application and the super fast support responses.  You guys are awesome!

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