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Hi!
Recently, I often encounter problems related to my music library in MusicBee. This is not the first time I notice that after the next search for new files, my entire library is reset and moved to "new files". Today it happened again. But everything is in order.

I'm using portable version 3.4.8033 P. The entire music collection is on a removable hard drive. I have to turn it off often. I update new files manually, through Insert. When the scan started, I found on the bottom line that there were a very large number of new files on the New Files tab. I realized that for some reason MB began to perceive all files from the library as new.
I stopped scanning. Rebooted MB and ran a full scan. And again on MB I thought that all these files are on
  disk are new. The play counters are reset, the auto-playlists are empty, and even the tags that I so diligently wrote down (I wrote down on the tab "tags 2" - "country" - disappeared. In fact, I lost my entire history. I almost had a heart attack.
It's good that I made a backup of the library - I thought. Substituted the old MusicBeeLibrary.mbl file and ...something has changed, but not everything.
Here's what's returned:
- now all my music was in the "music" section, only a couple of hundred files were identified as "new"
- atopplaylists pulled up the necessary compositions
That's all. But unfortunately I didn't fix it.
- the play counter has been reset, and for so many years, I have had so much music, it is dear to me to know what music I listened to most often
- the "country" tags that I entered so diligently did not appear recently, they simply do not exist in any file. Now auto-playlists by country do not work for me
- I also have empty values in the "listened" column. Now I don't know what I listened to and what not...

Please help me get my story back. Are the play count and tags lost forever?

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The problem was resolved.  :)  In the library submenu, I specified the new location of the music folders. Thanks for the help!

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did your drive change its letter compared to the first time you connected and loaded the music tracks? I believe there is a way to lock the drive to a particular letter but you would need to google that

By some miracle, after scanning and other manipulations, all my files still appeared in my inbox and, fortunately, the play count is displayed correctly.

Indeed, something related to the drive letter has happened. And what I saw in MB surprised me: all my files are displayed as disappeared. When hovering over the information icon, MB tells me that the file was previously on the D drive, but is now gone. But I am absolutely sure that MB is wrong, since my collection has always been on drive E. And now the same letter is displayed there. I do not understand....

When I click "find missing files" MB for some reason looks for them on the D drive and of course does not find them. All my files are on the E drive. I understand that it is possible to move all the files to the drive that asks for MB, but this is very long and I still have to transfer them to the same E drive again.
What can be done? In the settings of the collection folders, the E drive was always registered. But the MB library file itself was on the D drive. As an option, you can probably rename my E drive to the D drive. But I'm worried that the history of what I listened to will suddenly disappear again?

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To the OP- I have moved this to the 'questions' section because as hiccup pointed out, Tips & Tricks is for tips and tricks and no questions. Please.

As for your issue, how did you scan the folders? With MB, or with something else?

Sorry for posting the topic in the wrong place.
I usually go like this:
1. I connect HDD
2. I start MB
3. I press INSERT

MB scans files, finds new ones if they are there. But on the last run, it found 40,000 files and identified them as "new" without any tags.
On the next scan, the tags returned, but the counter of all songs is at "0". This is a nightmare for me... :(

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Hello. I have a disaster: after another scan of the folders in which I store my music collection, MusicBee added all the files to the Inbox (New files). And they all decide on one tag - an unknown artist."
I got scared, created a new library, added folders with music. The result has changed: the tags have been pulled up, but in the "played" column it displays 0. That is, I didn't seem to listen to a single song.

It turns out I lost the history of the played music. And I valued this very much, because the listened counter served for me as an indicator of the music I listened to. So I knew what else I needed to listen to from my 40,000 collection.

Help, please return history  🙏🏼

I share some information. Music is stored on my external HDD. It happens (very rarely) that it has some failures (windows notification), but this did not cause any particular problems. This time, Explorer notified me to check the disk for errors. I listened, but after rebooting, I still did not see the history of the played tracks in the "played" column.

I also tried to load the old library - it did not help. I also installed the portable version of MusicBee and connected the old library, and then re-created a new one - nothing has changed. What can be done?

MusicBee ver. 3.4.8033.18564

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General Discussions / Re: music library - main folders organization
« on: January 06, 2021, 12:12:57 PM »
The problem is that not all tracks on an album contain the same information.

This is a way to display all tracks that have an <Album> tag but not an <Album Artist> tag. (even when MB is misleadingly suggesting that tag is present)

Create a virtual tag 'No Album Artist'
Code
$IsNull(<Album>,,$IsNull(<Album Artist>,no album artist,))

Then in the left navigator panel create a filter:



Thank You!

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General Discussions / Re: music library - main folders organization
« on: January 06, 2021, 07:55:39 AM »

Quote
Look at: Preferences > Sorting/Grouping > Grouping > 'the following fields define an album'.

thanks, I understand you. The problem is that not all tracks on an album contain the same information. I noticed that somewhere the year is not marked, somewhere the name of the album is missing. All this can be fixed if I had 100 albums, not thousands :)
Therefore, the file manager helps out from year to year. After all, it doesn't matter what tag, all the tracks on the album are in one place.

But it's time to change your habits, because MB is really fantastic!

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General Discussions / Re: music library - main folders organization
« on: January 06, 2021, 06:25:28 AM »
it's just about fears and habits. Habit is nothing, I have already abandoned many nested genres. But there is a concern that after placing all the files in one folder, I will not be able to find anything without musicbee.

Another problem is tags. I have 40,000 tracks (not all of them I need, I plan to rethink my methods of collecting music and get rid of what is not fun) but a smaller part of them with tags. This is a very long job. Even if you use MusicBee tools or other tagging services, it is very long, because there are a lot of wrong genre tags on MusicBrain, Discogos. Everything needs to be manually entered, I browse my 2 main sites, where I get information about tags.

On top of that, this tag confusion in MusicBee is splitting the same album apart. It is very uncomfortable. See when the album Album 1 contains tracks from 3-10, and elsewhere the remaining 1-2 tracks.
The advantage of storing in one folder is that it doesn't matter what subgenre the artist has. If he's in progressive metal, then he has something to do with it for sure.

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General Discussions / Re: music library - main folders organization
« on: January 06, 2021, 05:55:38 AM »
OK, I understand your hints, I ask too many questions that have no answers. However, I read the old threads before asking a question.

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General Discussions / Re: music library - main folders organization
« on: January 05, 2021, 06:10:28 PM »
please tell me what needs to be written in the organization template so that I also have performers in
folders by letters of the alphabet, and inside Artist - album - title?
https://musicbee.fandom.com/wiki/Functions#Left_.2F_Right

Thank you, very helpful! I have one more question:

given structure, grouped by first letter
$ Group (<Artist>, 1) \ <Artist> \ <Artist> - <Year> - <Album> \ <Track No.> <Name> is used for me only for one category of the genre.
For everyone else, I would like to use without grouping <Artist> \ <Artist> - <Year> - <Album> \ <Track #> <Name>.

That is, I select an album - send - move to an organized folder - select the desired genre category, but at the top, in the line "template for specifying names and files", there is always the first template (with grouping). And every time, no matter what category of genre (folder) I choose, everything is ordered with grouping. Is there a way in which I could set an exception for multiple folders along the path of their location, so that MB knows when to group and when not? The current exclusions in the organizer window only work for moved files.

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General Discussions / Re: music library - main folders organization
« on: January 05, 2021, 10:14:55 AM »
A lot of this you'll have to figure out based on your own preferences. I'll just recommend that you not over think file organization. MusicBee can handle things like genre "folders" internally, with a column browser or filters or whatever makes sense to you.

For files, do something that's easy to maintain, easy to navigate, and doesn't take a lot of manual input. The default album artist/album/track is a good start. I add first letter folders to keep things from getting too cluttered, except for compilations and soundtracks which get their own folders based on their unique album artist value (set automatically by Picard). Single tracks go in the root album artist folder (an exception based on Track Count = 1). If you're using the album-per-folder option, you could just as easily put them in a "Singles" folder or something like that. MusicBee would then treat them as one group.

If it's really important to you to use genre in the file structure, think about how you organize them as physical media. Maybe you could use a custom tag like "album genre" to make multi-genre albums easier to handle. (You might also be able to do this with a virtual tag, setting a different
value based on album artist for compilations.)

My organization template uses a fair number of exceptions and virtual tags to handle special cases, but generally once an album is run through Picard and organized, it never moves again no matter what I retag or reorganize in MusicBee.

please tell me what needs to be written in the organization template so that I also have performers in
folders by letters of the alphabet, and inside Artist - album - title?

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a similar problem. There is a solution?

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I apologize in advance to the moderators for creating similar topics, but I understand that when there are many questions in one message, no one wants to answer.
I'm new and trying to figure it out.

I decided to organize the collection using the file organizer, but when I started doing it again I ran into one problem. Everything in order.

My collection is organized by genre categories:

Death | Doom Metal
Heavy metal
 Hard and heavy
 Heavy / Power Metal
Power metal
Thrash metal
Progressive Metal
Progressive Rock
Post rock

All I wanted was for MB to figure out where to move which album.
I realized that in order for it to move albums according to the template - <Genre Category> \ <Artist> \ <Artist> - <Year> - <Album> \ <Track No.> <Title> I need to match genres to categories. And so I began to prescribe:

Power Metal: Power / Heavy Metal
Power Metal: Melodic Power Metal
Power Metal: Epic Power Metal
Power Metal: Angry Power Metal
Power Metal: Dark Power Metal
Power Metal: Speed ​​Power Metal

and later, when I opened the largest folder with music, I found that I wasted my time. After all, besides the "6 subgenres" of Power Metal, more than 100 so-called "subgenres" were found there. In fact, these are not subgenres, just the music came to me from different sources. Somewhere instead of power metal is power indicated? instead of Power / Speed ​​- Power Metal / Sped metal (with errors). More than 100 variations.
In addition to the fact that all this needs to be brought into genres, I also thought that this would not solve the problem. When new albums appear, it may happen that there will be another "subgenre" that is not in the database.

Even if I take on the task of putting all the tags in order and assigning normal titles, it will not protect me from the fact that the new album will be with some wrong tag.

In fact, Speed ​​Metal or Speed ​​Power Metal is not so important to me. Maybe I would download the entire Heavy Power Hard Folk into one folder and divide it into folders alphabetically. But I have other genres like Progressive Rock and Progressive Metal that I would like to separate. Yes, in principle, both Thrash and Death. If you download all the music into one folder, then there will be many thousands of folders. I have been building my hierarchy for ten years.

I do not know what to do.

If suddenly I did not express myself clearly, then I will clarify:

you want MB to move the artist's album to the folder with the correct category by clicking on "send - move to organized folder". In order not to do it manually.
That's why I mentioned "mask" in the title of the question. Perhaps somehow you can specify "if the tags contain the word" power "- move to the folder with the Power Metal category". Not sure what will solve the problem, but can someone tell me?

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Questions / Questions about file organizer settings
« on: January 04, 2021, 12:35:12 PM »
I continue to explore ways to organize my collection. Read a few threads on the forum, but everything revolves around automatic organization. But how many people use it? :)

I met in messages that users are wary of this.
But since, unfortunately, I did not receive an answer in the previous topic about organizing the collection, I had to take for manual organizing, using an organized folder.

Questions immediately arose:

1. For all the time of use, have you ever had such that your data was lost? I'm still worried about this :)
2. Following advice from similar topics, I started with a few folders to understand how it works. But I didn’t tick the “automatic organization” checkbox because I already realized that it’s better not to do this when not all tracks are tagged :) I have just this case.
I decided to put the main music, even without tags, in a tracked organized folder and gradually tag it. After all, the main thing for me is that the music that is ready to be loaded into the library is automatically moved to the desired folder. Well, almost automatically. So far, after listening to the album, I choose "send to organized folder".
And at this step, I had a question: what needs to be written in the template so that the album fits into the folder with the letter corresponding to the first letter of the artist?
Now my files are organized like this:

<Genre Category> \ <Artist> \ <Artist> - <Year> - <Album> \ <Track No.> <Title>
And I need - <Genre Category> \ <first letter in artist name> <Artist> \ <Artist> - <Year> - <Album> \ <Track No.> <Title>

3. I also noticed that in many cases pictures and album booklets do not move. Although I checked the box. Some are portable, but most need to be transferred manually. With what it can be connected?

4. I also see one drawback: when I do manual reorganization via "send - move to an organized folder, in most cases empty folders with album names remain in the old place (or, as I wrote above, together with pictures). Because some folders are completely transferred. And so it turns out you still need to clean up.

5. One more point: manual organization has the advantage that you can upload covers to it and some other files into the folder with the performers. Here, when organizing through "send", I had 4 albums of the collection, where there were more than 30 artists performing covers, and after organizing I received a lot of folders and each one had one song. I had to manually delete it. How can this issue be resolved?

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Questions / Re: How do I organize my music collection?
« on: January 02, 2021, 09:37:49 AM »
If you move your files with MusicBee, it won't lose track of them for playlists, play counts and so on.  There are a variety of more and less automated ways to do this.

https://musicbee.fandom.com/wiki/File_Organization

Unfortunately, I did not find a solution for my problem :( I hope for your help.

The problem is that I have already tried to use automatic file organization once before, but inadvertently misconfigured the path template, and the music was not organized correctly. It's good that I just used 10 folders for the experiment.
Then it somehow happened, I don't know how I could admit that the contents of the albums in the physical folders disappeared. There are only pictures left. It was a disaster. But these are only 10 albums.

Therefore, I am apprehensive about this organization. On the one hand, this is what I have been looking for for a long time. After all, manually moving each new album to the desired directory according to the scenario Genre category / genre / subgenre / artist is quite a routine matter. Moreover, as I said at the beginning, every time after listening to the album I don't want to do it.

It's much easier when I schedule myself a time, once a month, and move all the albums I listened to from the physical Inbox Music folder in turn. This is certainly not the best option, because you still need to do it all manually, and sometimes check with the genre to move it to the desired folder.

Somehow I set myself a goal - to find an application for synchronizing files, with which you can transfer alms to the desired folder. The application should take the artist's albums from the "Listened to / to the library" folder and
1.find a folder with an artist in the library and put a new album there
2. if there is no artist, then the program must read the category of genre, genre, subgenre (if any) and place the album there.

I know that some music lovers store music in one folder without division into categories, genres. They solve the problem with the last uploaded albums by creating playlists by date. In MusicBee, I realized that you can watch "recently added", "incoming" in this way, you can set any folder "by date of addition". This is certainly good.

But what if something happens to the MusicBee library? What if I lose access to it, it crashes or something else? How can I then find what I need if there are no genres, no categories, no playlists?

This is why genre categories, genres and sub-genres on a physical disc are more reliable for me. At any moment you can find what you need.

I know that you can set up a backup, but I haven't gotten to this point yet. And in spite of this, I somehow feel uneasy about giving everything to the management of MusicBee.

One more thing (I anticipate your answers), you wrote that if you move the albums in MusicBee, then the counter, the dates of addition are not lost. But this is so inconvenient. There are a lot of things to do:

1.click on the alum
2. select "send to"
3. select "move to folder"
4.select "move files to folder
5. and then you need to go through another 3 to 6 steps in cases with my folder structure.

And all this for one album. Therefore, automatic organization is of course preferable.

And I also ran into the problem:

when I transfer an album via "send to" and put it in a folder where a new folder with the name of the album has already been created (if it was created in the explorer or outside the MusicBee application), then all information about the playback and the date of addition is lost. This is a big disadvantage. If you do everything using MusicBee, that is, at the last step, also create a new folder with the name of the album to be moved, then you will get somewhere in 12-13 steps of the "move album" operation.

In cases when I move the album using FreeCommander, I open the necessary tabs with genres in two panel mode and just move it by dragging and dropping.
Of course, this is not the best option, otherwise I would not write here.

Please help me solve this problem. How can you customize this organization process so that physically my music looks as it does now (genre category, genre, genre, artist, album)?

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