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If I'm looking at Sting it should be grouped as an ALBUM.
If I'm looking at the Police like "APPEARS IN ..."

Hello Fox63,
If I understand well what you wish to do, let me just rephrase your question:

* "TRACK 1" contains the following fields:
    - ARTIST: Sting; The Police
    - ALBUM ARTIST: Sting
    - ALBUM: Example
* In the LEFT PANEL, you browse by ARTIST.
* In the MAIN PANEL, you display ALBUM COVERS.

Wished result:
* If you select "Sting" in the LEFT PANEL, you will see in the MAIN PANEL a group named "ALBUMS" containing "Example".
* If you select "The Police" in the LEFT PANEL, you will see in the MAIN PANEL a group named "APPEARS IN" containing "Example".

In the current state of MusicBee, it is not possible with virtual tags, since they rely only on field values recorded in the music files themselves, whereas, in order to achieve what you wish, you would need a variable containing the artist currently selected in the LEFT PANEL. To say it with other words: such as variable doesn't exist in MusicBee.

Help! I can't find such a right click option anywhere!

It's available in 'Album and Tracks' view, but not in 'Album Covers' view.

Cool! Thanks, Steven!


Preferences -> Layout (1) -> general -> artist pictures: [_] crop to a circle


If you toggle the value and save the preferences, the change is not taken into account.
When re-opening the Preferences window, the tick box still has its previous state (before the change).

The only way to change the parameter is to edit MusicBee3Settings.ini:

Versions where the bug shows up:

MB v3.5.8242 P and above

Latest version without the bug:

MB v3.5.8237 P

Tips and Tricks / Re: MusicBee File Paths: Installed vs Portable
« on: July 20, 2022, 06:37:20 PM »
Two nitpicking nitpicks:

I agree with you.
As for .XMLC as possible extension for TMs: I don't find any occurrence either.

Tips and Tricks / Re: MusicBee File Paths: Installed vs Portable
« on: July 20, 2022, 03:29:15 PM »
I'm not sure these are in the purview of your table, but in case that they are you may want to add them:

Thanks! I've just updated the table.

Tips and Tricks / MusicBee File Paths: Installed vs Portable
« on: July 15, 2022, 11:21:02 AM »
MusicBee File Paths (Installed vs. Portable)

This summary is intended to help users wishing to:
  • switch from the installed to the portable version;
  • back up data;
  • transfer their MB install to another computer.

Table of Contents
  • Folders and files
  • Adapting MusicBee3Settings.ini
    after switching to the portable version
  • Access and remarks

Folders and files

The table below uses several environment variables, whose values can be displayed within Windows' command-line prompt (cmd.exe), with command env.

Unless you have a particular Windows configuration or an older version, here are typical values:
  • %USERPROFILE% is usually C:\Users\(YourUserID).
  • %APPDATA% is usually C:\Users\(YourUserID)\AppData\Roaming.
  • %LOCALAPPDATA% is usually C:\Users\(YourUserID)\AppData\Local.
  • %ProgramFiles(x86)% is usually C:\Program Files (x86).

Nr.ContentFilesFolder (installed version)Folder (portable version)
AMain settings
A.1Application settingsMusicBee3Settings.ini%APPDATA%\MusicBee\.\AppData
A.2Saved application settings*.ini%APPDATA%\MusicBee\Saved Settings\Application.\AppData\Saved Settings\Application
BLibrary & tags
B.2Library filters*.xautopf%APPDATA%\MusicBee\Filters.\AppData\Filters
B.3Custom tagsCustomTagConfig.xml%APPDATA%\MusicBee.\AppData
B.4Genre groupingGenreMapping.xml%APPDATA%\MusicBee.\AppData
B.5Tag hierarchy templates*.txt%APPDATA%\MusicBee\TagHierarchyTemplates.\AppData\TagHierarchyTemplates
CArtist profiles
C.1Artist thumbs:
- Album Artist
- Artist
- Composer
- Original Artist
*.jpg%USERPROFILE%\Music\MusicBee\Artist Pictures\Thumb.\Library\Artist Pictures\Thumb
C.2Artist thumbs, resized from C.1*.png%LOCALAPPDATA%\MusicBee\InternalCache\ArtistThumbs.\AppData\InternalCache\ArtistThumbs
C.3Large pictures*.dat, *.tmp%LOCALAPPDATA%\MusicBee\InternalCache\ArtistBackdrops.\AppData\InternalCache\ArtistBackdrops
C.5Similar artists*.similar.dat%LOCALAPPDATA%\MusicBee\InternalCache\ArtistData.\AppData\InternalCache\ArtistData
C.6Soundtrack pictures%USERPROFILE%\Music\MusicBee\Soundtrack Pictures.\Soundtrack Pictures\
D.1Genre icons / Genre grouping icons
Lyricist /  Conductor
Language / Mood / Occasion
Custom tags / Virtual tags
*.png%USERPROFILE%\Music\MusicBee\Artwork\Grouping Icons.\Library\Artwork\Grouping Icons
D.2Highlighting icons*.ico, *.png
  • %ProgramFiles(x86)%\MusicBee\Icons
  • %APPDATA%\MusicBee\Icons
D.3Toolbar icons*.ico, *.png
  • %ProgramFiles(x86)%\MusicBee\Icons
  • %APPDATA%\MusicBee\Icons
D.4Tab icons*.ico, *.png
  • %ProgramFiles(x86)%\MusicBee\Icons
  • %APPDATA%\MusicBee\Icons
E.1Playlists*.mbp, *.xautopf, *.xradiopf*%USERPROFILE%\Music\MusicBee\Playlists.\Library\Playlists
E.2Current playlistNowPlaying.mbp%USERPROFILE%\Music\MusicBee.\Library\
E.3Current auto DJ playlistAutoDj.xautopf%APPDATA%\MusicBee\Recent Queries.\AppData\Recent Queries
FSkins & layouts
F.1Skins*.xml, *.xmlc
  • %ProgramFiles(x86)%\MusicBee\Skins
  • %APPDATA%\MusicBee\Skins
F.2Theater modes*.xml
  • %ProgramFiles(x86)%\MusicBee\Plugins\TheaterMode.List
  • %ProgramFiles(x86)%\MusicBee\Plugins\TheaterMode.Embeded
  • %APPDATA%\MusicBee\Plugins\TheaterMode.List
  • %APPDATA%\MusicBee\Plugins\TheaterMode.Embeded
  • .\Plugins\TheaterMode.List
  • .\Plugins\TheaterMode.Embeded
F.3Custom views*.mbv%APPDATA%\MusicBee\Saved Settings\Views.\AppData\Saved Settings\Views
F.4Custom panel arrangements (layouts)*.layout, *.tab-layout%APPDATA%\MusicBee\Saved Settings\Layouts.\AppData\Saved Settings\Layouts
GPlugins & equaliser
  • %ProgramFiles(x86)%\MusicBee\Plugins
  • %APPDATA%\MusicBee\Plugins
  • %ProgramFiles(x86)%\MusicBee\BBplugin
  • %APPDATA%\MusicBee\BBplugin
G.3Equaliser presets*.sde
  • %ProgramFiles(x86)%\MusicBee\Equaliser
  • %APPDATA%\MusicBee\Equaliser

Adapting MusicBee3Settings.ini
after switching to the portable version

When switching from the installed to the portable version, copying all your files to their new locations is the crucial part.
But not the last step: as MusicBee3Settings.ini still contains references to several folders, you need to perform some easy replacements in the file with your preferred text editor.

  • Make a backup copy of MusicBee3Settings.ini !
  • When replacing an old path by the new matching one, always ensure the new path exists in your portable version.
The variable parts depending on your particular configuration are in green below.

Where in the file?Replace:By:
At the beginning:
C:\Users\(YourUserID)\AppData\Roaming\MusicBee\(Portable MB path)\AppData
On the next line:
C:\Users\(YourUserID)\Music\MusicBee\(Portable MB path)\Library
C:\Users\(YourUserID)\Music\MusicBee\(Portable MB path)\Library
all occurrencesC:\Users\(YourUserID)\Music\MusicBee\Playlists(Portable MB path)\Library\Playlists
all occurrencesC:\Program Files (x86)\MusicBee(Portable MB path)

Access and remarks

AMain settings
A.1Application settingsPreferences
A.2Saved application settings(MB menu) -> Edit -> Saved settings
BLibrary & tags
B.2Library filtersPreferences -> Library -> Music library -> define filters
B.3Custom tagsPreferences -> Tags (1) -> custom tags
B.4Genre groupingPreferences -> Tags (2) -> tag handling -> group genres
B.5Tag hierarchy templates(Tag Hierarchy Explorer menu) -> Edit Tag Hierarchy
CArtist profiles
C.1Artist thumbs, for:
- Album Artist
- Artist
- Composer
- Original Artist
  • Music tab -> (Left panel) -> Album Artist / Artist / Composer / Original Artist
  • Music Explorer -> Artist Information -> Profile
C.2Artist thumbs, resized from C.1-
C.3Large picturesMusic Explorer -> Artist Information -> Profile
C.4BiographiesMusic Explorer -> Artist Information -> Profile
C.5Similar artistsMusic Explorer -> Artist Information -> Similar Artists -> More Similar Artists
C.6Soundtrack pictures
  • Preferences -> Tags (1) -> artwork -> soundtrack picture locations
  • Learn the whereabouts on MusicBee Wiki
D.1Genre icons
Genre grouping icons
  • Music tab -> Left panel -> Genre / Genre Category
  • Preferences -> Tags (2) -> tag handling -> group genres
D.2Highlighting iconsPreferences -> Tags (2) -> tag handling -> highlighting
D.3Toolbar iconsToolbar context menu -> Configure Toolbar…
D.4Tab iconsTab context menu -> Select Tab Icon...
E.1PlaylistsPlaylists explorer tab
E.2Current playlistNow Playing tab
E.3Current auto DJ playlistAuto DJ tab
FSkins & layouts
F.1Skins(MB menu) -> View -> Skins
F.2Theater modes(MB menu) -> View -> Theater Mode
F.3Custom views(Main panel menu) -> Custom views
F.4Custom panel arrangements (layouts)(MB menu) -> View -> Import/Export
GPlugins & equaliser
G.1PluginsPreferences -> Plugins
G.2Visualisers(MB menu) -> View -> Visualizer
G.3Equaliser presetsEqualiser button (player controls)

Questions / Re: Issues with tag hierarchy explorer
« on: June 30, 2022, 03:06:11 PM »
Here is some (structured) information about the tag hierarchy list (THL), based on my experience.
With this help, you can
* check if the file is in the correct location,
* check if it has the desired format/content,
* and adapt it to your own tagging scheme if needed.

Location of THLs (Genres.txt, ...)

In the installed version:
In the portable version:
    <MusicBee software folder>\AppData\TagHierarchyTemplates

You can have several THLs (with filenames of your choice) in the folder. In that case, they appear in the interface menu of the "Tag Hierarchy explorer" -> just select the one you wish to apply. For example, you can keep the original Genres.txt and Enhanced genre hierarchy.txt, while developing MyOwnGenreList.txt.

Structure and content of a THL

The THL must be a plain text file, where each line is:
* either a category name (or subcategory, or sub-sub-category, etc.)
* or a tag value that will be linked to the last mentioned (sub(sub))category

Line formats:
* a main category name starts a line (no indentation)
* a subcategory is indented with exactly 4 spaces, a sub-sub-category with 8 spaces, etc.
* a (sub(sub))category name mustn't comprise '::'
* a tag value following a (sub(sub))category is indented with 4 more spaces,
and must be formatted this way:

For example, see below an excerpt from my own THL.
It is based on the genre tag, where keywords are semicolon-separated in my music files.

    A cappella::genre
    Cantata & oratorio
    Choir singing::genre

FYI, I have retagged genre in my whole collection. It can have values such as:
* Sung; Song; Pop
* Sung; Song; World; Corsica
* Instrumental; Synthesizer
* Instrumental; Classical; Baroque; Orchestra; Concerto; Violin
* Sung; Classical; Baroque; Cantata; Religious
* Spoken; Documentary

Let's suppose you also have populated the language tag in your collection, another portion could look like this:
    Indo-European languages
        Germanic languages
        Romance languages

For your information:
* Genres.txt is based on genre only;
* Enhanced genre hierarchy.txt relies on genre and subgenre;
* my own list uses genre, language, and custom1 (MediaType, or TMED), and implies retagging of the whole music collection.

Bug Reports / Re: MB 3.5.8206 P doesn't display some album covers
« on: June 23, 2022, 08:04:42 AM »
And it does, indeed!
Thank you so much for your time, Steven!

Bug Reports / Re: MB 3.5.8206 P doesn't display some album covers
« on: June 23, 2022, 07:49:04 AM »
=> ErrorLog.XMAS6.dat

Actions done, with subfolder '(DOC)' present in "Concerto de Natal...":

* Start MB, refresh "Concerto de Natal..."
* Restart (=> cover present)
* Restart (=> cover absent)

Bug Reports / Re: MB 3.5.8206 P doesn't display some album covers
« on: June 22, 2022, 02:18:19 PM »
Steven, I've found a hint, and a workaround.

While trying to find common features of the problem albums, I noticed that each concerned folder contains a subfolder named (DOC), storing some documentation about the recordings/works/artists.

After moving those (DOC) folders to other locations and refreshing, the problem ceased. In the same stride, I created a (DOC) subfolder in another album folder, => that album lost its cover, too. However, removing the parentheses from the subfolder name stopped the problem.

Thus, so far, the bug seems to show up if there is a subfolder name STARTING with '(' or ')', whereas there is nothing wrong with parentheses elsewhere in the name (middle, end). Moreover, the bug wasn't present in former 3.4/3.5 builds.

A peculiar case, isn't it?

Bug Reports / Re: MB 3.5.8206 P doesn't display some album covers
« on: June 22, 2022, 01:01:33 PM »
No problem. Thanks for the time spent looking into this.

Bug Reports / Re: MB 3.5.8206 P doesn't display some album covers
« on: June 22, 2022, 12:46:57 PM »

* Rescanned all the problem albums.
* Close
* Start -> covers present
* Close
* Start -> covers absent

Bug Reports / Re: MB 3.5.8206 P doesn't display some album covers
« on: June 22, 2022, 12:37:32 PM »
A screen copy of my library options is in Clipboard3.jpg:

* UNCHECKED: on startup check for updated or missing files
* "Concerto de Natal" is in the monitored folders

Bug Reports / Re: MB 3.5.8206 P doesn't display some album covers
« on: June 22, 2022, 12:05:29 PM »
you have the complete log for
* start (artwork absent)
* album refresh
* close
* start (artwork present)
* close
* start (artwork absent)

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