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Tips and Tricks / Re: Tag Repository: MusicBee vs. mp3tag, and Tag Mapping

« on: August 06, 2023, 01:46:18 PM »

(1) Tag identifiers written by MusicBee to audio files

Tag types (column "T")

• Standard tags: (blank)
  they are all available in MusicBee's interface (most of them in the «Edit Tags» window), and you do not need to define them as custom tags.
• Custom tags: (c)
  those shown in the table below are predefined in «Configuration.xml».
  To be able to see them in the «Edit Tags» interface, under tab «Tags (2)», you must first define them as custom tags in MusicBee's preferences.
• Virtual tags: (v).

How to add a predefined custom tag to MusicBee's interface:

• Open Preferences (Ctrl+O).
• Select tab Tags (1).
• In section custom tags, choose an unused entry, say «Custom2».
• Replace display name «Custom2» by the name of your choice.
• For save to music file as tag, select the predefined tag in the drop-down list.

MusicBee ID	T	ID3v2.3/2.4 (.mp3)	Windows Media (.asf, .wma)	Vorbis Comment (.flac, .ogg, .opus)	MPEG-4 (.m4a, .m4b, .mp4)	Monkey's Audio (.ape)
Album		TALB	WM/AlbumTitle	ALBUM	©alb	Album
Album Artist		TPE2	WM/AlbumArtist	ALBUMARTIST	aART	Album Artist
Album Rating		TXXX/ALBUM RATING	musicbee/ALBUM RATING	ALBUM RATING	ALBUMRATING	Album Rating
Artist		TPE1	Author	ARTIST	©art	Artist
Artists: Guest		TXXX/GUEST ARTIST	GUEST ARTIST	GUEST ARTIST	GUEST ARTIST	Guest Artist
Artists: Performer		TXXX/PERFORMER	PERFORMER	PERFORMER	PERFORMER	Performer
Artists: Remixer		TXXX/REMIXER	REMIXER	REMIXER	REMIXER	Remixer
BPM		TBPM	WM/BeatsPerMinute	BPM	tmpo	BPM
Comment		COMM	Description	COMMENT	©cmt	Comment
Composer		TCOM	WM/Composer	COMPOSER	©wrt	Composer
Conductor		TPE3	WM/Conductor	CONDUCTOR	©con	Conductor
Copyright	c	TCOP	Copyright	COPYRIGHT	cprt	Copyright
Disc Count		TPOS	foobar2000/TOTALDISCS	DISCTOTAL	disk	Disc
Disc#		TPOS	WM/PartOfSet	DISCNUMBER	disk	Disc
Display Artist		TXXX/DISPLAY ARTIST	DISPLAY ARTIST	DISPLAY ARTIST	DISPLAY ARTIST	Display Artist
Display Composer		TXXX/DISPLAY COMPOSER	DISPLAY COMPOSER	DISPLAY COMPOSER	DISPLAY COMPOSER	Display Composer
Encoder Settings	c	TSSE	WM/EncodingSettings	ENCODER SETTINGS	ENCODERSETTINGS	EncoderSettings
Encoding Time	c	ID3v2.3: TXXX/ENCODINGTIME ID3v2.4: TDEN	WM/EncodingTime	ENCODINGTIME	ENCODINGTIME	EncodingTime
Episode		---	---	---	---	---
Episode date		TDRL	---	---	---	---
Episode description		TDES	---	---	---	---
File Owner	c	TOWN	FILEOWNER	FILEOWNER	FILEOWNER	FileOwner
File Type	c	TFLT	FILETYPE	FILETYPE	FILETYPE	FileType
Genre		TCON	WM/Genre	GENRE	©gen	Genre
Grouping		TIT1	WM/ContentGroupDescription	CONTENTGROUP	©grp	ContentGroup
Initial Key	c	TKEY	WM/InitialKey	INITIAL KEY	INITIALKEY	InitialKey
Instruments: Performers	v	---	---	---	---	---
Involved People List	c	ID3v2.3: IPLS ID3v2.4: TIPL	INVOLVEDPEOPLE	INVOLVEDPEOPLE	INVOLVEDPEOPLE	InvolvedPeople
ISRC	c	TSRC	WM/ISRC	ISRC	ISRC	ISRC
iTunes Compilation		TCMP	COMPILATION	COMPILATION	cpil	Compilation
Keywords		TXXX/KEYWORDS	musicbee/KEYWORDS	KEYWORDS	KEYWORDS	Keywords
Language		TLAN	WM/Language	LANGUAGE	LANGUAGE	Language
Location	c	TXXX/LOCATION	LOCATION	LOCATION	LOCATION	Location
Love		TXXX/LOVE RATING	musicbee/LOVE RATING	LOVE RATING	LOVERATING	Love Rating
Lyricist		TEXT	WM/Writer	LYRICIST	LYRICIST	Lyricist
Lyrics		USLT	WM/Lyrics	UNSYNCEDLYRICS	©lyr	UnsyncedLyrics
Media Type	c	TMED	MEDIATYPE	SOURCE MEDIUM	MEDIATYPE	MediaType
Mix Artist	c	TPE4	MIXARTIST	MIXARTIST	MIXARTIST	MixArtist
Mood		ID3v2.3: TXXX/MOOD ID3v2.4: TMOO	WM/Mood	MOOD	MOOD	Mood
Movement Count		MVIN	MOVEMENTTOTAL	MOVEMENTTOTAL	©mvc	MovementTotal
Movement Name		MVNM	MOVEMENTNAME	MOVEMENTNAME	©mvn	MovementName
Movement#		MVIN	MOVEMENT	MOVEMENT	©mvi	Movement
Net Radio Owner	c	TRSO	NETRADIOOWNER	NET RADIO OWNER	NETRADIOOWNER	NetRadioOwner
Net Radio Station	c	TRSN	NETRADIOSTATION	NET RADIO STATION	NETRADIOSTATION	NetRadioStation
Occasion		TXXX/OCCASION	musicbee/OCCASION	OCCASION	OCCASION	Occasion
Original Album		TOAL	WM/OriginalAlbumTitle	ORIGALBUM	ORIGALBUM	OrigAlbum
Original Artist		TOPE	WM/OriginalArtist	ORIGARTIST	ORIGARTIST	OrigArtist
Original Filename	c	TOFN	WM/OriginalFilename	ORIGFILENAME	ORIGFILENAME	OrigFilename
Original Lyricst	c	TOLY	WM/OriginalLyricist	ORIGLYRICIST	ORIGLYRICIST	OrigLyricist
Original Year		ID3v2.3: TORY ID3v2.4: TDOR	WM/OriginalReleaseYear	ORIGYEAR	ORIGYEAR	OrigYear
Publisher		TPUB	WM/Publisher	ORGANIZATION	©pub	Publisher
Quality		TXXX/QUALITY	musicbee/QUALITY	QUALITY	QUALITY	Quality
Release Time	c	ID3v2.3: TXXX/TDRL ID3v2.4: TDRL	WM/ReleaseTime	RELEASETIME	RELEASETIME	ReleaseTime
Season		---	---	---	---	---
Set Subtitle	c	ID3v2.3: TXXX/TSST ID3v2.4: TSST	SetSubTitle	SETSUBTITLE	SETSUBTITLE	SetSubtitle
Show Movement		TXXX/SHOWMOVEMENT	SHOWMOVEMENT	SHOWMOVEMENT	shwm	SHOWMOVEMENT
Sort Album		TSOA	ALBUMSORT	ALBUMSORT	soal	AlbumSort
Sort Album Artist		TSO2	ALBUMARTISTSORT	ALBUMARTISTSORT	soaa	AlbumArtistSort
Sort Artist		TSOP	ARTISTSORT	ARTISTSORT	soar	ArtistSort
Sort Composer		TSOC	COMPOSERSORT	COMPOSERSORT	soco	ComposerSort
Sort Title		TSOT	TITLESORT	TITLESORT	sonm	TitleSort
Subtitle	c	TIT3	WM/SubTitle	SUBTITLE	SUBTITLE	Subtitle
Tempo		TXXX/TEMPO	---	TEMPO	---	Tempo
Title		TIT2	Title	TITLE	©nam	Title
Track Count		TRCK	TOTALTRACKS	TRACKTOTAL	trkn	Track
Track Rating		POPM	WM/SharedUserRating	RATING	rate	Rating
Track#		TRCK	WM/TrackNumber	TRACKNUMBER	trkn	Track
Volume Adjustment		ID3v2.3: RVAD ID3v2.4: RVA2	---	---	---	---
Work		TXXX/Work	WORK	WORK	©wrk	Work
WWW Artist	c	WOAR	WM/AuthorURL	WWWARTIST	WWWARTIST	WWWArtist
WWW Audio File	c	WOAF	WM/AudioFileURL	WWWAUDIOFILE	WWWAUDIOFILE	WWWAudioFile
WWW Commercial Info	c	WCOM	WM/PromotionURL	WWWCOMMERCIALINFO	WWWCOMMERCIALINFO	WWWCommercialInfo
WWW Copyright	c	WCOP	CopyrightURL	WWWCOPYRIGHT	WWWCOPYRIGHT	WWWCopyright
WWW Publisher	c	WPUB	WWWPUBLISHER	WWWPUBLISHER	WWWPUBLISHER	WWWPublisher
WWW Radio Page	c	WORS	WWWRADIO	WWWRADIO	WWWRADIO	WWWRadio
Year		ID3v2.3: TYER ID3v2.4: TDRC	WM/Year	DATE	©day	Year

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Tips and Tricks / Tag Mapping: MusicBee, mp3tag, Picard

« on: August 06, 2023, 01:45:05 PM »

Tag Mapping: MusicBee, mp3tag, Picard


This post covers the following tagging formats:

• ID3v2.3/2.4: .mp3
• Windows Media: .asf, .wma
• Vorbis Comment: .flac, .ogg, .opus
• MPEG-4: .m4a, .m4b, .mp4
• Monkey's Audio: .ape

Table of Contents (1) Tags written by MusicBee to audio files (2) MusicBee vs. mp3tag (3) Harmonising mp3tag with MusicBee ID3v2.3 ID3v2.4 Windows Media Vorbis Comment MPEG-4 Monkey's Audio (4) Multiple Artist Splitter Dialog box Tags in MusicBee's interface - Main panel / Track information / Virtual tag formulas - Thumbnail browser - Column browser Tags written to the audio files (5) Multiple Composer Splitter Dialog box Tags in MusicBee's interface - Main panel / Track information / Virtual tag formulas - Thumbnail browser - Column browser Tags written to the audio files (6) MusicBee vs. Picard (all tags) ID3v2.3/v2.4, Vorbis Comment MPEG-4, Windows Media, Monkey's Audio

Software versions used:

 MusicBee: 3.5.8631 P
 mp3tag:   3.22
 Picard:   2.9

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Questions / Re: Managing single file .flac files with .cue file providing track breakdown

« on: July 28, 2023, 09:44:02 AM »

A first thought: have you noticed such clicks while listening?
If not, I wouldn't change anything to your current configuration. Such clicks are of course possible, but they shoudln't be audible as long as the tracks are separated by some silence (or sufficient fading) and the cue stops had been set correctly.

But if you want to keep a single FLAC+CUE along with each split album, it is indeed possible to exclude some folders from what MusicBee automatically scans:
Preferences -> tab Library -> button «Exclude» (under «monitored folders»).

You are of course aware of this last caveat, but for other readers who would consider using CUE sheets:
With a global file + CUE, the only tags that one can define at track level are:

• TRACK,
• TITLE and
• PERFORMER (which maps to ARTIST within MusicBee).

Hence, all the other tags defined in the single global FLAC will apply to all the inferred tracks: GENRE, WORK, LANGUAGE, YEAR, etc.

As for me, I use both systems (single file + cue sheet, and split tracks).
I have used MediaHuman AudioConverter so far, but I will give Medieval CUE splitter a try. These words in its home page caught my attention: "without decoding/re-encoding the data stream".

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Tips and Tricks / Re: Hiccup's Bible of Tags (all MusicBee, Picard and MP3tag tags + tag mapping)

« on: July 27, 2023, 09:33:40 PM »

Thanks karbock
I have often wondered if it would be a good idea to have a comprehensive tag mapping topic post on the forum.
...

That's a nice and appealing challenge, which implies a large chunk of learning.

The first question is the significance of such a project, since your Excel table already excels...

Do you have in mind something more compact, that users can quickly grasp?
Or do you mean with "comprehensive" something that includes exceptions and variants/differences (such as between GROUPING and CONTENTGROUP)?

There are different ways of building such a comparison table. The first that came to my mind:

• Tag names used in different pieces of software, mainly:
  
• Tag names used in different audio file formats:
  

We can discuss the details by PM.

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Tips and Tricks / Re: Hiccup's Bible of Tags (all MusicBee, Picard and MP3tag tags + tag mapping)

« on: July 27, 2023, 06:20:39 PM »

Hat tip!

P.S.
I am not using MP3tag myself, so it might be useful if someone who does could check if the information on MP3tag is correct.
e.g., am I correct to assume that MP3tag does not have a distinction between its tag names, and its Vorbis comment tag representative?
In other words, MP3tag's names are always identical to how it names (reads and writes) the related Vorbis comment tag?

Your assumption is correct:
by default, mp3tag's internal tag names do not map to the standard Vorbis comment tags.

How to match mp3tag tag names with Vorbis tag names

In mp3tag:

• Select menu File/ Options... (Ctrl+O)
• Select tab Tags/ Mapping
• Create new entries (star button) with the values below.

Column "Source" = Vorbis Comment tag name
Column "Target" = mp3tag's internal name

Tag	Source	Target
VorbisComment	TRACKNUMBER	TRACK
VorbisComment	DATE	YEAR
VorbisComment	SOURCE MEDIUM	MEDIATYPE
VorbisComment	ORGANIZATION	PUBLISHER
VorbisComment	INITIAL KEY	INITIALKEY

For a complete list, see this post: Tag Mapping: MusicBee, mp3tag, Picard.

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Questions / Re: can you help me to copy file but respecting the folders ?

« on: July 25, 2023, 06:06:26 PM »

is there a way to find the files wihout tags  using autoplaylist ?

Instead of an auto-playlist, I would use built-in function "Show files with missing tags":
via MB's main menu -> Tools -> Tagging tools -> Show files with missing tags

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Tips and Tricks / Re: MusicBee File Paths: Installed vs Portable

« on: July 19, 2023, 06:55:01 AM »

No idea if this is something that belongs in this guide but while trying to make the switch to portable, i noticed that the podcast graphics i use are stored at "L:\Users\*.*\AppData\Local\MusicBee\InternalCache\Subscriptions\".

The links can be found in the Subscriptions.dat file under \Library\*.*\Podcasts\.

I changed the .dat file with a text editor replaced "L:\Users\*.*\AppData\Local\MusicBee\InternalCache\Subscriptions\" with "\MusicBeePortable\AppData\InternalCache\Subscriptions\" and it worked.

Thanks for your contribution, Gendji! It fits perfectly within the purview of this thread.
I have just updated the main post accordingly.

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Questions / Re: Tricky regex expression...?

« on: July 08, 2023, 03:28:15 PM »

What's the magic there?

Hi, guy!
In the comments below, the numbers refer to the table rows in post #2 and spaces are replaced by "_" for legibility purposes.
A keyword is a non-null sequence of characters different from ";", thus a keyword = "[^;]+".

3. "([^;]+);_"
Between round brackets: the keyword that will be repeated, followed by ";_".
5. "\2"
The repeated keyword (captured group nr. 2).

1. + 2.
The keyword to look for is possibly preceded by 0, 1 or more other keywords with semi-colons in between, thus 2 possible variants: "([^;]+;_)*" or "(.*;_)?".

6. + 7.
The 2nd occurrence of the keyword is possibly followed by 0, 1 or more other keywords with semi-colons in between, thus 2 possible variants: "(;_[^;]+)*" or "(;_.*)?". Note that the semi-colon starts the RegEx part this time.

4.
Between the keyword and its repetition, you can have 0, 1 or more other keywords, with semi-colons in between.

I made the RegEx as general as possible, so as to normally cover all the cases.
Moreover, it is important to use the semi-colon at each transition: between 2 and 3, 3 and 4, etc. By doing so, you know that no RegEx part matches a substring of a keyword.

I could have used non-capturing groups in 2., 4. and 6 but it would have been even more illegible.

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Questions / Re: Album Cover Size & Album Name Color in MAIN window

« on: July 04, 2023, 10:43:54 AM »

Hi Jeff,

As for the album cover size:
- Click on the main panel's header (=Album)
- At the menu bottom, adjust the horizontal slider (= picture size)

As for the album title colour:
Although it is not directly configurable in the interface, there is a workaround:
Use, instead of Album, a virtual tag (say MyAlbumName) with this content:

{color: 180,70,40}<Album>

Just replace by your favourite colour. Blue! No, yellooowwww....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0vlQHxJTp0

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Questions / Re: Tricky regex expression...?

« on: July 03, 2023, 06:18:22 PM »

Thankyou so much karbock. You're a genius! I must confess, I doubted if it was even possible.

You're very welcome! As for me: I'm not a genius, but simply used to analysing.

Tested and seems to work perfectly - that was the easy bit! It'll take me quite a bit longer to figure out HOW it works!

Maybe the updated presentation above will give better insight into the different RegEx parts.

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Questions / Re: Tricky regex expression...?

« on: July 02, 2023, 04:59:54 PM »

A first remark:
In this case, you must include the separator ("; "), and not just rely on "\w+" to define an element.
Otherwise, you will get a false positive with "ABC; ABCD".

The following RegEx works:
$IsMatch(<MyCustomField>,"^(.*; )?([^;]+); ([^;]+; )*\2(; [^;]+)*$")

I have tested it with different cases, but I may have forgotten a particular configuration. Let me know if you come across a false positive/negative.

Explanation of the RegEx parts:

Nr.	RegEx part	Alternative RegEx part	Meaning	Condition
1	^		beginning of field
2	([^;]+; )*	(.*; )?	any number of elements	The substring, if present, must end with a semicolon.
3	([^;]+);		a specific element	Followed by semicolon + space. The separator (; ) is not included in the capturing group.
4	([^;]+; )*	(.*; )?	any number of elements	The substring, if present, must end with a semicolon.
5	\2		repeated specific element
6	(; [^;]+)*	(; .*)?	any number of elements	The substring, if present, must start with a semicolon.
7	$		end of field

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Questions / Re: Seperate Album titles in album collections

« on: June 15, 2023, 08:05:50 AM »

Hi Sem, and welcome to the forum.

Are you aware of the sub-grouping header? It can be seen as a subtitle within an album.

Based on your only example (the CD set with works by Berlioz), I would suggest using tag WORK as subgrouping header, provided that WORK is populated in your audio files. But you can choose any tag as sub-grouping header, which can be specified in views Album and Album and Tracks of the main panel.

See examples of what you can achieve with the sub-grouping header in the links provided below,
which present more general solutions or other options you might consider:

• Sub-grouping Header for Classical and Non-Classical Music, by yours truly.
• Managing (levels of) classical music works using MusicBee and MusicBrainz Picard, by hiccup.
  An excellent, all-in-one solution for tagging and displaying relying on the Picard plugin.
  Requires some setup work and virtual tags.
• How to use the sub-grouping header, presentation and exchange initiated by Bee-liever.
  Other display choices, including the possible use of other tags (Set Subtitle, Conductor, and Sort tags to name only a few). Requires of course virtual tags, too.

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Tips and Tricks / Re: MusicBee File Paths: Installed vs Portable

« on: May 31, 2023, 09:03:43 PM »

In fact, the location is already in the table, but with «%APPDATA%» instead of «c:\users\<your id>\appdata\roaming».

Ah, O.K. I overlooked that.
But other users might too? Not everybody will fully understand the workings of %APPDATA%?
(not a strong opinion, your call of course)

I've just added some explanation about the environment variables used.

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Tips and Tricks / Re: MusicBee File Paths: Installed vs Portable

« on: May 31, 2023, 07:33:36 PM »

Perhaps this location for TM's should be added?:
https://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=39390.msg212893#msg212893

Doing a speed-read on it, I am a bit confused if this is about Theater Modes or Skins though.

In fact, the location is already in the table, but with «%APPDATA%» instead of «c:\users\<your id>\appdata\roaming».
There are 2 «Add Skin» commands:

• one for skins (which copies the file to «%APPDATA%\MusicBee\Skins», see F.1)
• one for theater modes (which copies the file to «%APPDATA%\MusicBee\Plugins\TheaterMode.List», see F.2)

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MusicBee Wishlist / Re: Having used musicbee since before 2015, i have only one wish for a feature

« on: May 31, 2023, 04:05:43 PM »

Well, the option is already present...

Preferences
-> tab "General"
-> section "application"
-> minimise to: Notification Tray