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so your library is auto-organised?
No. All music files and artwork is organized outside of MusicBee. Only after I have all the files in the correct folder do I click Insert to Scan Folders for New Files to import into MusicBee.
I never embed the artwork, always link to the original picture file.

and your test involved changing tags such that the file being edited caused MB to move the music file to a new folder...

No, nothing is moved to a new folder. The file cover.jpg (or front.jpg) is copied to musicbee_redundant_copy.jpg in the same folder as the original cover. The primary picture for only the edited track is changed to the new copy. The other music files in that folder retain the original artwork file.

Here's the whole workflow including initial entry into MusicBee:
Insert (Scan Folder for New Files), Choose Folders...
Check the folder containing the music files and artwork for the new album. OK.
Destination is set to add to inbox. Proceed. Check that it looks correct.
Send To -> Music Library.

Sometime (could be months) later, while playing the album notice that a track title needs a change.
Right click track -> Edit, change track title. Save.
It's at this point that MusicBee sometimes copies the artwork and reassigns the new copy to the one track. There's no change visually, so you don't know this has happened.

Months later, decide to do some edit for the whole album. Right click album, Edit.
Artwork shows as "Mixed" because one track has a different file set as the primary picture.

So I'd like an artwork preference that is implemented like this:
MusicBee never copies or renames any of my artwork files.
When I edit track name or any other tag or any other info for a track, the artwork file for that track is not changed, unless I explicitly change it.

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I said:
"I have found that when I uncheck all options under artwork and Save, this does not happen."

Wrong.
I reverted to 3.5.8249, turned all artwork options off and the problem still happens sometimes.

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Installed newest patch. All unchecked artwork option is now persisted on restart.

Tried editing several track names in various albums.
Of the ten or so I tried, in two cases musicbee_redundant_copy was created, and the primary picture for that track was changed to the new copy.
So after that, the artwork for the album shows "Mixed".
Album Artwork Manager shows that the one track whose name I edited, now has musicbee_redundant_copy as its primary picture, while the rest of the tracks still have cover.jpg as their primary picture.

So there is still something odd going on.

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There's still an intermittent issue.

MusicBee sometimes makes a copy of the primary picture and gives it the name in the field below "copy to the same folder..." and changes the primary picture to the new copy, even though "link to the source picture" is set as the preference.

The scenario:

I set the field below "copy to the same folder..." to "musicbee_redundant_copy" so I can easily search for these files that MusicBee creates.
I have "link to the source picture" set as my artwork preference.
I have an album for which cover.jpg (in the same folder as the music files) is the primary picture.
I right click on a track in that album to bring up the Tags dialog and make some change to the tags for the track, e.g. change "A" to "a" in the track name.
Save.
At this point, sometimes MusicBee will have copied cover.jpg to musicbee_redundant_copy.jpg and changed the primary picture for the album to musicbee_redundant_copy.jpg
This doesn't happen in every case and I haven't figured out why it happens sometimes and not others.

I have found that when I uncheck all options under artwork and Save, this does not happen.
When I start MusicBee it ignores my previous preference setting of all options unchecked, and sets "copy to the same folder..." as the preference.
If I forget to open the Preferences dialog and uncheck "copy to the same folder..." , I will start to see musicbee_redundant_copy.jpg files in folders for albums on which I have done some edits.

I was hoping that this new option "link to the source picture"  would solve the issue, but it doesn't.

I just want to be able to edit albums and not have MusicBee change my artwork, without having to remember to change the Preferences every time I start MusicBee.

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Latest version 3_5_8292
"- new option to set the default location of new artwork to the source file location (instead of organised copy)"

Edit Preferences  -> Tags (1)
under artwork, check "link to the source picture"
Exit MusicBee.
Start MusicBee
Edit Preferences  -> Tags (1)
"link to the source picture" is unchecked
"copy to the same folder as the music file and name as:" is now checked.

Please make it so this preference is retained on restart.

I would prefer it if you could uncheck ALL options under artwork and have that be retained on restart, but  you said earlier there was some reason that it couldn't do that.

I'm really tired of having to reset this preference every time I start MusicBee. I thought maybe this new feature would solve it, but no.

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Questions / Different artwork for album & tracks?
« on: August 07, 2020, 10:37:03 PM »
New feature list for version 3.4 includes:

Quote
- You can now specify different artwork for an album (that is displayed in the main panel Album Covers view) to the primary picture for each track in the album that is displayed in the playing Track Information panel

How do you do this?

Thanks

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Bug Reports / Re: Preference changed on startup
« on: August 13, 2019, 03:16:17 AM »
But if I add ".\..\" to the folder search list, it does find the artwork in the parent, adds it and does not embed it.

That makes it easier. Thanks, sveakul!

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Bug Reports / Re: Preference changed on startup
« on: August 13, 2019, 02:36:35 AM »
It's NOT embedded in the music files, IF you have the auto-tagging options in Tags(2) turned off for artwork.  Believe me.  
It does embed the file in my workflow:
Artwork is in folder Album
Music files are in folder Album\cd1
Scan folders for new files
Choose folders - navigate to Album and check it. Proceed
Album is added but has no artwork.
Right click on Album in Album Artwork view, choose Edit
Go to Artwork tab, click in box, Choose Picture.
Navigate  to the parent folder (Album), choose artwork - Open
Artwork is then embedded in the music files.

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Bug Reports / Re: Preference changed on startup
« on: August 12, 2019, 11:47:01 PM »
Thanks for your suggestions, but I prefer that the high-res artwork not be embedded in the music files.

I want to avoid the high-res image being copied to multiple places. Embedding it in multiple music files takes up even more unnecessary space than making a copy in each subfolder.

It probably should work as in Zak's first response :

The checkboxes you referred to only apply to cover art that MusicBee has downloaded.

But it doesn't. I can live with that. Maybe other people like it the way it is now.

Maybe try that combination...

I know the combination that works exactly how I want it.

The problem is every time I start MusicBee it changes to a combination I don't like and I have to go and change it back again.

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Bug Reports / Re: Preference changed on startup
« on: August 12, 2019, 12:20:52 PM »
Zak,

The auto-retrieve missing artwork checkbox is off.

And the copy to the same folder as the music file and name as: checkbox affects my local files, not just art MusicBee has downloaded.


Thanks

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Bug Reports / Re: Preference changed on startup
« on: August 12, 2019, 01:15:15 AM »
Okay then. I'm sure there's a good reason for having done it that way.

But I  find it quite annoying to have to remember to turn off that checkbox every time I start MusicBee or else deal with the unwanted copies of artwork that get created when that box is checked.

Here's the problem I have with it::

I have artwork cover.jpg in folder "Album". No music files are in the folder at that level.
All the music files are in subfolders "Album\Album CD1", "Album\Album CD2", etc.
I add the "Album" folder to the library. It shows up with no album art, since there is no artwork in the folder where the music files are. That's expected
I edit the album in the library and add the artwork file Album\cover.jpg

When all three preferences are unchecked, it does exactly what I want.

However, when the "copy to the same folder as the music file and name as" preference is checked, it copies cover.jpg to all the subfolders and changes the artwork for the music files in each subfolder to be the local copy.

I don't like that behavior because:

1. I have fairly high resolution artwork for most albums and I don't see the need to have multiple copies taking up disk space, especially for box sets with many CDs.

2, Some box sets have artwork for individual CDs. If I have that artwork named cover.jpg in the subfolder, it will get overwritten by the copy of the parent artwork in the above scenario. This overwriting happens with no warning or confirmation. Unless I have a backup of the preferred artwork somewhere, it is lost. The workaround for this unwanted behavior is to change the filename under the 3rd preference to be a unique name.

So I would very much like to have it remember my preference settings so i don't have to change them every time I start up MusicBee.


Thanks. I love the product other than this one annoyance.

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Bug Reports / Preference changed on startup
« on: August 10, 2019, 10:01:20 PM »
Version 3.3.7157
Windows 10

I set Preferences_>Tags(1)->artwork storage->downloaded album cover storage
so that all three of the checkboxes below are turned off.
This is fine as long as MusicBee is running.

However, if I exit MusicBee, and restart, the checkbox for
"copy to the same folder as the music file and name as:"
is turned back on.

This appears to me to be a bug. Had same problem in version 3.2


Thanks

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