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This is a minor gripe I had with MediaMonkey and it affects MusicBee too. This mostly affects mixes/vinyl rips.

For example, I have a mixtape that has 40 tracks on it. The cover art for the mixtape is a folder.jpg file. The record labels of each track used to create the mix are embedded into each of the 40 tracks. What I would like is for the folder.jpg file (i.e. the cover art) to always displays in the main window where all of my albums are listed, but the art that's embedded into each track to display in the "playing track" box.

Likewise with vinyl rips, I have the cover art as a folder.jpg and the label of the record embedded into the files.

Currently you have 2 choices: -

1. Set MusicBee to prioritise the folder.jpg file, which leads to the same piece of artwork being displayed for both the cover and each track.

2. Set MusicBee to prioritise the embedded art, which leads to MusicBee using the artwork embedded into track 1 as the cover. This is my best option, but I have to embed the cover art into track 1 so that the cover is correct in the main window, but ideally I don't want to do this.

 If you could implement my suggestion as an option, then it would work perfectly. Cover art and track art would always be correct.

MusicBee Wishlist / Re: 'queue next' after the album?
« on: June 05, 2012, 05:52:37 AM »
This is a minor quibble, but I like to have all options configured for selecting playing by albums. I have settings set to shuffle by album, and use the 'play now' command to start playing so I randomly play different albums sequentially. The thing is, when I choose an album to 'queue next' the album plays after the current song rather than the current album. Could there be an option for it to be after the album?
I agree and the "queue next" option does not work as intended, at least in the latest version that Steven uploaded here: -

With that version, let's say that you have 3 albums each with 3 tracks on  them (just to keep it simple). You play album one, so your now playing list looks like this: -

1. ALBUM 1 - TRACK 1 <----This track is playing
2. ALBUM 1 - TRACK 2
3. ALBUM 1 - TRACK 3

If you use "queue next" to add album 2 to the list, this happens, which is what you're complaining about: -

1. ALBUM 1 - TRACK 1 <---This track is still the one playing
2. ALBUM 2 - TRACK 1 <---ALBUM 2 has been inserted here as it doesn't treat ALBUM 1 as a full album
3. ALBUM 2 - TRACK 2
4. ALBUM 2 - TRACK 3
5. ALBUM 1 - TRACK 2
6. ALBUM 1 - TRACK 3

So it's not treating the album as an album, BUT, if you then use the "queue next" option again for album 3, this happens: -

1. ALBUM 1 - TRACK 1 <---This track is still the one playing
2. ALBUM 2 - TRACK 1
3. ALBUM 2 - TRACK 2
4. ALBUM 2 - TRACK 3
5. ALBUM 3 - TRACK 1 <---This time it inserts ALBUM 3 after ALBUM 2 (treating ALBUM 2 as a full album), but this should not happen!
6. ALBUM 3 - TRACK 2
7. ALBUM 3 - TRACK 3
8. ALBUM 1 - TRACK 2
9. ALBUM 1 - TRACK 3

So album 3 then gets added after album 2, even though you chose "queue next", but both get added in the middle of album 1.

Sorry if that just confuses matters further, lol, but this is an easy thing to show someone, but hard to explain in words!

BTW, I think you can simplify this more, but have the exact same functionality.

In art view, you can now double-click an album cover to play that album - that's exactly what I wanted so thank you for adding that. You can also right-click an album cover to bring up "play now" and "play next" which works for all tracks on that album (although I think THIS needs addressing).

So when you click on the artist's name/album title under the album, the "Play album now" option is no longer required as double-clicking the album cover does that already. Also, when you go to the new options you've added, at the top of the track listings are "Queue Album Next" and "Queue Album Last" respectively, which also only duplicate what you get if you just right-click the album cover directly, so they're not required either really and all they do is give you less room for each track title as you have the track listings shifted a little over to the right under the "Queue Album Next"/"Queue Album Last" headings.

this has the change:
Thanks, although this isn't working as intended.

It's my understanding that "Play Next" should always make that song/album the next played song/album in the now playing list and "Play Last" always puts the song/album at the end of the list. That isn't working right here when working with individual songs from albums.

It's hard to explain, but hopefully this makes sense. Throughout this, assume that song 1 is always playing: -

1. You choose 1 track from an album and play it. It's the only song listed in the now playing list.

2. You choose a second song using the new feature you've added and choose "Play Next". It's the second song on the now playing list as there's only 2 songs.

3. You choose a third song using "Play Next". As the first song is still playing, the song you've just selected should go into position number 2 on the playlist ahead of the track selected in step 2, but it doesn't - it gets added to the end of the now playing list, just as if you'd chosen "Play Last". You can repeat step 3 using "Play Next" and songs are always added to the end of the list, which isn't the intended function.

4. If you then choose another song and choose "Play Last", that will get added to the end of the list, as intended, BUT, if you then choose a song and choose "Play Now" that will then become the second song on the list.

5. If you now go back to using "Play Next" again and choose another song, that becomes the third song on the playlist, ahead of the song you selected in step 4.

I hope that makes sense! It affects queuing albums in a similar way.

i've added this as an option in the Artwork Layout settings panel
Excellent! Thanks a lot. :)

i would just like to voice my support of the current behaviour.
There's no need to do that. I asked for the option to do this, not to make this the only way things are done.

First, I'm not even sure it's technically possible to implement what you have asked for as Windows may not recognise which mouse button was used to select a menu item.
That's clearly not the case and even with MusicBee that soon becomes apparent.

For example, a single left-click on an album in Artwork view does nothing, while a single right-click brings up this menu: -

For now, if you hover over an album cover, a Play button that appears that will let you play the whole album, but being able to double-click the album cover would provide a bigger target.
Yep. That's one of the reasons why I want this feature. The second reason being that double-clicking the album to show all track on the album is something I would never do.

In Artwork view, clicking either the album name or artist name brings up a list of album tracks like this: -

If you either left-click or right-click on a track it will play that track, so based on my current settings, regardless of whether I left or right-click a track, it will clear the now playing list and play just that track.

I would like to see this functionality extended so that you can left-click to play a track - which is how it works now - but if you right-click instead, you could then choose to play now, queue next, or queue last. That makes it an easy way to add individual tracks from different albums to the now playing list when you're using Artwork view as you can do it from the top level, rather than having to double-click an album cover, view the list of tracks, add which ones you want to now playing, back out to the top level view and so on.

I'm sorry for recommending another MediaMonkey feature, but I should say that it only took about an hour of using MusicBee to decide it was superior to MM and switch - I just miss one or two MM features is all.  ;D

Currently in MusicBee when I'm browsing in Artwork view, if I left click on the artist name or the album name it pops up a list of all of the album tracks. The pop up list of album tracks is useful, so you could have it so that clicking the album name still brings that up, but clicking the artist name brings up all albums by that artist.

MusicBee Wishlist / Re: A-Z jumplist options.
« on: May 31, 2012, 04:46:51 PM »
How do I upgrade? I downloaded version 1.4 and installed that, then I downloaded the zip file that Steven posted above and unzipped that to the installation directory, overwriting the files that were already there. Is that not the way to do it?

EDIT - Never mind. All fixed. I didn't notice the V2 installer in the beta thread earlier, so I installed that and then upgraded using the zip from this thread and everything is working.

In the regular Artwork view it would be nice if there was an option to double-click the album cover to immediately start it playing, ala MediaMonkey. Could this be considered for a future version please? Thanks.

MusicBee Wishlist / Re: A-Z jumplist options.
« on: May 31, 2012, 04:08:21 PM »
the version i posted yesterday has the change for this:
I download this version and it does sort out the A-Z issue, but when I try and do anything that involves the browser I get this error: -

MusicBee v2.0.4533.33836 (Win6.1), 31 May 2012 16:07:

System.InvalidCastException: Unable to cast COM object of type 'System.__ComObject' to interface type 'Gecko.nsIComponentManager'. This operation failed because the QueryInterface call on the COM component for the interface with IID '{1D940426-5FE5-42C3-84AE-A300F2D9EBD5}' failed due to the following error: No such interface supported (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80004002 (E_NOINTERFACE)).
   at System.StubHelpers.InterfaceMarshaler.ConvertToManaged(IntPtr pUnk, IntPtr itfMT, IntPtr classMT, Int32 flags)
   at Gecko.Xpcom.NS_GetComponentManager(nsIComponentManager& componentManager)
   at Gecko.Xpcom.Initialize(String binDirectory)
   at Gecko.GeckoWebBrowser.OnHandleCreated(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmCreate(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
   at Gecko.GeckoWebBrowser.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
Is that just a consequence of using an unfinished beta version?


I've just switched from using MediaMonkey and so far the only thing that I'm missing is the option to have MusicBee start up at the library explorer selection I was at when I last shut the program down. For example, if I choose to browse by genre in library explorer and I select R&B so I can see all of my R&B albums, if I then shut MusicBee down and start it up again, it would be nice if R&B was still selected.

General Discussions / Re: Official MB appreciation thread
« on: May 31, 2012, 09:49:09 AM »
I've been a MediaMonkey user for some time and I discovered MusicBee this morning and thought I'd give it a try. While MM offers lots of features, all I really wanted was a music player/manager that could catalogue/organise my collection automatically, handle all of the file types I use, and look good - MM managed all of those apart from looking good, and things like not being able to lock toolbar positions and window sizes always annoyed me. MusicBee has none of those annoyances and looks slick and modern.

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