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Bug Reports / Re: double-click to Auto Playlist doesn't activate it anymore
« on: December 22, 2020, 11:01:02 AM »

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Bug Reports / Re: double-click to Auto Playlist doesn't activate it anymore
« on: December 22, 2020, 10:47:22 AM »
Yes, that the
- filtering is automatically being applied
- songs seleced
- and being played

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Bug Reports / double-click to Auto Playlist doesn't activate it anymore
« on: December 22, 2020, 10:23:03 AM »
Hi,

first of all many things for your continuous effort to maintain MusicBee, its a phantastic player. Maybe you could get this little bug fixed with not too much effort.

It doesn't work anymore to activate an auto-playlist by double-clicking with the mouse.
At the bottom I can see clearly that in the status line the number of file, storage, playtime doesn't change.

I remember it worked in the past (long ago, but sry, I always forgot to make a bug report) and it was very user friendly in terms of handling.
I just checked the latest version 3.4.7628, also doesn't work in this release.

Now its not so comfortably as you have to perform two actions:
- right-click with a mouse and
- then select either "play" or "play in random order".

It would be great if "double-click" to an auto playlist would again activate it.

Many thanks.

Windows 10 Pro 20H2, fresh installation 2 month ago // RME UFX+ via AES to ADI-2 Pro FS R BE (USB DAC) // using RME ASIO driver

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I didn't realize this was fixed until I switched to some of my 192 kHz Star Wars soundtracks just now. Good job!

AFAIK, ASIO is supposed to hang and act funny if you try to switch the buffer size during playback.

I discussed this with RME, this is not the case when being implemented correctly.
You should be able to do this in every DAW (Cubase, Protools, Reaper, ...).

The main issue has been fixed btw, you can change now between songs with different sample rate with no issues.
Many thanks again, that this could be fixed.

Change of ASIO buffersize during playback will stay unsolved, but is maybe not a burning issue for pure audio playback,
as it is very unlikely that it is being changed.

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No this also does not work.
I think the next thing i could try is too much of a change. I expect dynamically handling the changing of the buffer size is not a common requirement so I will leave this unsolved

There are certain steps required when changing the buffersize during playback, but then it works.
In Cubase I get an interruption of about 2 seconds and then the application continues.

You can send your contact at RME an e-mail, then he is happy to detail to you the necessary steps,
so that MusicBee could also perform very well in situations like ASIO buffer changes.

Testing with a local connected ASIO device might be more efficient for you and then you see yourself how well it does.

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Many thanks.
No this also does not work.
Sample rate changes yes, ASIO buffer sizes no.

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FYI
I performed a Win10 upgrade installation to 2nd SSD to Win10 1809.
Same behaviour like with Win7.
So I will proceed testing with Win7 as it makes no difference and as Win7 is still my preferred Windows environment.

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Sample rate changes work properly.

What irritates me a little is, that the RME driver settings window shows different ASIO buffer sizes for UFX+ and ADI-2 Pro after changing to a song with a different sample rate.

Example: I kept the RME driver setting window open and then playback:
@44.1: UFX+ 32, ADI-2 Pro 32 -> OK
when changing song to 96 kHz:
@96 kHz: UFX 64, ADI-2 Pro 32 (should also be 64) -> unexpected (but works)

After closing RME driver settings dialog and reopening: both are at 64 samples which is correct.
I think this is maybe something where RME might need to take a look.

What not works is still changing the ASIO buffersize while playback, then musicbee hangs and doesn't play a song anymore without a full restart of the application.

P.S.: in previous tests I only replaced the MusicBee.exe, this time I replaced all files from your ZIP archive, to be on the save side that I perform a proper test for you.

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Many thanks, sure I can do in the afternoon.

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could you run this debug version and send me the info at the end of the error log

https://www.mediafire.com/file/v8yyjayg4k8kd5k/MusicBeeDebugAsio.zip/file

Sure, sorry, had no time the last days.
Now the switching between all sample frequencies works, very nice.

To present you a short informative debug file I tested now exactly this szenario:
- 2 FLAC files (44.1 kHz and 96 kHz)
- ASIO buffersize: 32 samples @44.1 kHz, changes to 64 samples @96 kHz)
11:49:45 - Start of MusicBee
12:00:00 - Start of 44.1 kHz FLAC file (by double clicking to the file on desktop)
12:00:15 - Start of 96 kHz FLAC file (by double clicking to the file on desktop)
12:00:30 - Start of 44.1 kHz FLAC file (by double clicking to the file on desktop)
12:00:45 - Manually stopped MusicBee

26.05.2019 11:59:19 - ASIO reset join
26.05.2019 12:00:01 - ASIO Set rate=44100 (Comment: start of 1st FLAC file)
26.05.2019 12:00:01 - ASIO Set rate2
26.05.2019 12:00:01 - ASIO already started=False
26.05.2019 12:00:01 - ASIO started
26.05.2019 12:00:15 - ASIO Pause (Comment: start of 2nd FLAC file)
26.05.2019 12:00:15 - ASIO Stop2
26.05.2019 12:00:16 - ASIO Set rate=96000
26.05.2019 12:00:16 - ASIO Set rate2
26.05.2019 12:00:16 - ASIO already started=False
26.05.2019 12:00:16 - ASIO started
26.05.2019 12:00:30 - ASIO Pause (Comment: start of 1st FLAC file again)
26.05.2019 12:00:30 - ASIO Stop2
26.05.2019 12:00:31 - ASIO Set rate=44100
26.05.2019 12:00:31 - ASIO Set rate2
26.05.2019 12:00:31 - ASIO already started=False
26.05.2019 12:00:31 - ASIO started
(Comment: stop of playback is not recorded in the sebug log)

What does not work is, if you change the ASIO buffersize during playback, this hangs MusicBee completely.
Nothing helps, different title selection does not restart playback. You can only exit MusicBee and restart.

In this case I started playback of 44.1 kHz FLAC file at around 12:10:00 with ASIO buffersize of 32 samples.
At 12:10:15 I changed ASIO buffersize from 32 to 256 samples and MusicBee immediately stops playing.
At 12:10:30 I changed the buffersize down to 128 samples, still hangs
At 12:10:35 I changed the buffersize down to 64   samples, still hangs
At 12:10:40 I changed the buffersize down to 32   samples, still hangs
At 12:11:45 I tried to stop and restart playing, still hangs
At 12:12:00 I choosed a different FLAC file with 96 kHz, still hangs, start and stop no success.

26.05.2019 12:09:56 - ASIO reset join
26.05.2019 12:10:04 - ASIO Set rate=44100
26.05.2019 12:10:04 - ASIO Set rate2
26.05.2019 12:10:04 - ASIO already started=False
26.05.2019 12:10:04 - ASIO started
26.05.2019 12:10:30 - asioevent=2
26.05.2019 12:10:59 - ASIO Pause
26.05.2019 12:10:59 - ASIO Stop2
26.05.2019 12:11:00 - ASIO Set rate=96000
26.05.2019 12:11:00 - ASIO Set rate2
26.05.2019 12:11:00 - ASIO already started=False
26.05.2019 12:11:00 - ASIO started

Many thanks for your investigations.

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After the test requested above, could you restart MB and play the track that played at the wrong sample rate again and also send those results

21.05.2019 19:45:18 - BASS_ASIO_ChannelSetRate(44100,14):True
21.05.2019 19:45:18 - BASS_ASIO_SetRate:True
21.05.2019 19:46:38 - BASS_ASIO_ChannelSetRate(96000,14):True
21.05.2019 19:46:38 - BASS_ASIO_SetRate:True
21.05.2019 19:48:40 - BASS_ASIO_ChannelSetRate(96000,14):True
21.05.2019 19:48:40 - BASS_ASIO_SetRate:True


Maybe to make it clear, there is no "problem sample rate".
The "switching" of one to another sample rate is the problem if the you change from single to double or to quad speed.
Not from 44.1 to 48, but from 44.1 to double (88.2/96) or quad speed (192)

Play something at 44.1 .. select other title with 96 kHz -> issue.
Restart MusicBee, continue playing last title with 96 kHz -> works.

What should work is to be able to select / play songs of any sample rate in one MusicBee session.

When the sample rate is being changed from single to double or quad two things happen:
- ASIO buffer size changes it doubles from single to double and again from double to quad speed
- Amount / Numbering of channels changes, because the amount of ADAT and MADI channels changes
   IF I use AES of UFX+ no change in assignment.
   But if I use the ADI-2 Pro via USB, then the channel assignment becomes wrong as it is not being adjusted.

For ADAT and MADI double speed is being achieved by bonding two, quad speed by bonding 4 channels.

I noticed already that the assignment in MusicBee of Left and Right channel is wrong,
when the amount of channels changes when changing between single / double / quad speed.

Here the list/order of channels and ASIO buffer size as example depening one sample rate:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6sio1qwf4bw9nec/MADface%20Channel%20Mapping%20UFX%2B%20and%20ADI-2%20Pro.pdf?dl=1

I think the 1st important milestone would be to assume that the channel assignment for Left and Right channel
does not change .. this is the case when I playback via UFX->AES->ADI-2 Pro and get sample rate change stable.

2nd important step would be that MusicBee becomes aware of the exact amount of channels depending on sample rate.
Example: if I playback @44.1 via USB directly to ADI-2 Pro then its channel 95 and 96, but @96 its 55+56
and @192 its 35+36.

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Hi, this version wont solve the issue but logs some info into the error log

https://www.mediafire.com/file/tgmk3k1xco0d1ux/MusicBeeDebugAsio.zip/file
unzip and replace the existing musicbee files

stop once you have started playing something with a problem samplerate and then send me the info at the end of the error log (help/ support/ view error log)

21.05.2019 19:45:18 - BASS_ASIO_ChannelSetRate(44100,14):True
21.05.2019 19:45:18 - BASS_ASIO_SetRate:True
21.05.2019 19:46:38 - BASS_ASIO_ChannelSetRate(96000,14):True
21.05.2019 19:46:38 - BASS_ASIO_SetRate:True

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Hi,

many thanks, will do that tomorrow and pls read my mail, thanks.

BR
Andreas

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Dear Steven,

I retried and even simplified my setup to use only the ADI-2 Pro FS BE via USB.
I turned off the UFX+ and thus didn't use AES, set clock properly to INT...
Also tried to use the USB2 port coming from Chipset (C612, Supermicro X10SRi-F).
Nothing helped on my side so far.

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Hey Steven, very nice to hear that you are working on this !!

Sorry to say but I see no difference to the older version 3.3.6904, that I have running.
I made a copy of the old folder and compared both versions.

What works is the change from double (88.2/96) or quad speed (192 kHz) to 44.1, but that worked already in 3.3.6904.

What doesn't work is:
- from single speed (44.1) to double or quad speed or
- from double to quad speed

When changing i.e. from 44.1 to 192 kHz (quad speed), the RME driver and device show the correct speed 192 kHz, but the playback appears to be still at the old speed 44.1.

I crosschecked with Foobar 1.4.4b1 there I can change between 44.1 and double speed and between double and quad speed vice versa.

Windows 7 SP1
RME device ADI-2 Pro FS BE
Firmware: v90 (latest, 21.2.19)
RME MADIface driver: 0.9681 (latest, 25.2.19)
Sonnet Allegro Pro USB3 Card
Sonnet Allegro Pro (4xFL1100 chip), Fresco Logic driver version: FLUSB3.0-3.8.34556.0

HW chain: PC -> Sonnet Allegro Pro (USB3) -> RME UFX+ (clock master) -> AES -> ADI-2 Pro (clock slave)

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