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I disabled this option - but don't see/hear any difference.

Also this should maybe in worst case take some minutes on an SSD to crawl once the music folder (50GB) - but in contrast my problem is always, also after 5 hours...

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OK, tried it:
Bitdefender: I whitelisted in Bitdefender Internet Security 2020 in the AV modul the folders of my music (which are set in musicbee options library folder) and the folder of musicbee portable (where also the library is stored).
But I could not see any difference (also not after Windows restart).

Also if I disable Bitdefender AV-Shield completely (as far as it is possible) - I can't see/here any difference.

Windows Defender: Why to whitelist also in Windows Defender should help I do not understand, as it is deactivated while Bitdefender is installed. But I figured out out to exclude folders (first had to activate Defender additionally to Bitdefender, then defined whitelist. But it seems not not beeing used as only ONE on-access-sanner can be active at once - Windows tells me this is Bitdefender, as it should).
So also no difference here.

Any further ideas? (despite buying a different SSD which is quiter and has no "coil wine noise" :-/ )

In which way Musicbee is doing background tasks while being idled? "monitored folders" is set to "scan on startup only".
Is there any device-seeking mechanism active (which I would conclude from the permanent registry accesses stated above: HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Enum\ACPI....) which could be deactivated?
I also tried to delete all "known devices" in Musicbee - without any change.

Thanks,
Robert

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Since some time  (months) I am noticing a permanent SSD-activity while MusicBee is running (also in the background and idle). I suspected various apps but finally pointed it down to MusicBee.

I am using MusciBee Portable in v. 3.3.7367 P / Windows 10 64Bit / 500GB SSD / 8GB RAM / AV: Bitdefender 2020
Only relevant setting in MusicBee: Library -> monitored folders -> scan on startup only

The question is if anybody
- also noticed similar behaviour
- has an explanation for this behaviour
- can give an workaround to stop this behaviour
- give hints to dig deeper in that matter

The case seems a little bit strange; here my findings until now:
I used the program "Process Monitor" to find any difference in "File System Activity":
a) I captured all events during 60s with MusicBee started, in background and idle (1min after program start).
b) Then I captured all events during 60s while MusicBee is not running (quited directly after the previous run).
Results between a) Musicbee is running vs. b) Musicbee is not running:
- Total Bytes Written (all processes): 111KB vs. 32KB
- Total Bytes Read (all processes): 697KB vs. 300KB
- Total Events (all processes): 724 vs. 645

The path of the files with most written byte are the following:
for a) and b) the top file is: C:\Windows\System32\config\SOFTWARE.LOG1
for b) the only two further files with written bytes are:
- 2KB | C:\Windows\System32\winevt\Logs\System.evtx
- 2KB | C:\Windows\System32\winevt\Logs\Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-WHEA%4Errors.evtx

for a) there are 4 other files with 10 times of written bytes:
21KB | C:\Windows\System32\winevt\Logs\Microsoft-Windows-PushNotification-Platform%4Operational.evtx
20KB | C:\Windows\System32\config\SYSTEM.LOG1
16KB | C:\Program Files\Bitdefender\Bitdefender Security\HttpProxy.dat-wal
16KB | C:\Users\[MYUSERNAME]\ntuser.dat.LOG2

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Total entries of "File Summary":        a) vs b) = 66 vs 56
Total entries of "Registry Summary": a) vs b) = 1122 vs 526
--> For Registry most of the 673 "additional" elements with a) (MusicBee running) are:
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Enum\ACPI\...
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Enum\BTH\... ... and so an with [ACPI, BTH, BTHENUM, HID, PCI, ROOT, STORAGE, SW, SWD, USB, USBSTOR]

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Do you have any answer to my initial question?
The background why I even find this behaviour disturbing, because my SSD (Crucial MX300 M.2) unfortunatley makes some very low noises during file accesses (like some coile wine / squeezing) - and since using MusicBee this noise is permanent present which drives me a little bit crazy. If I quit MusicBee the SSD is again very silent as expected.

Maybe it is a hint to some strange behaviour/bug of MusicBee itself (e.g.: it is the "portable" version, why it should trigger a massive registry-read/write access?) - but maybe it is only a artifact of my software systems (Bitdefender?)

Any help is welcome!
Cheers,
Robert

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* Queued tracks don't necessarily get added to the end of the current playlist. It might need adding  "Queue next (shuffled)" and "Queue last (shuffled)" commands.
Agreed. If it is more welcome, than only one option of both would be enough (at least for my purpose).

* If you have albums selected, does that mean all of the tracks from those albums are shuffled, or do the albums get added in a random order but still play in track order?
For my purpose: All tracks of all selected albums should be added shuffled (without keeping order of albums or track order within it).

* Re #6: What happens if you try to shuffle tracks that aren't in a contiguous selection (i.e. selected with Ctrl+click)?
Good questions. Two solutions:
* only show this new option, if one indeed selected only contiguous tracks (my favorite)
* keep position of all selected tracks, just shuffle them within these positions (could be more difficult to implement)


Do you see any chance it will come in near future?

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I would find the option "queue selected tracks/albums shuffled" very helpful to add to all context menus after selecting tracks/albums/entries.

Behaviour in detail:
1. Select all tracks/albums in music bee you which (most important for me within the album view)
2. Right Click on selection
3. new entry "queue selected tracks/albums shuffled"
4. all selected tracks/albums are queued at the end of the current playlist: as a block but with a random sorting within the whole selction but let the current playlist untouched apart from that.
5. Same behaviour for "AutoDJ" and "Normal" mode (and why not also in "Shuffle" mode? Wouldn't heart)
6. should also work for a selection within the playlist itself (although for playlist I would prefer: select tracks within playlist --> right click -->choose "shuffle selected tracks" --> all selected tracks are just shuffled within current playlist, while keeping the position of the selected block of tracks.)

Cross link to former discussion of this: https://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=27609.msg166573#msg166573

What do you think?

Cheers, Robert

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Thanks for confirmation :-)
I opened a whishlist post - feel free to add there: https://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=29948.0

Would be "queue selected tracks/albums shuffled".

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Thanks for fast answer.
You are right, at a right click on an album cover there exists the option "queue shuffled" (in screenshot: "zufällig einreihen") - but only while "shuffle"  = ON (neither in "AutoDJ" nor in "normal" mode).

BUT: as you can see in the screenshot, the result is, that the songs are queued in normal order. Only the WHOLE Playlist is then played shuffled (which is correct for play mode "shuffled") - but doesn't help me out with my problem.

So I am still too stupid to queue an album to an existing playlist in AutoDJ with an shuffled order (from the album view in screnshot) ... :-/

[screenshot only via extern link: http://ge.tt/7trFc3z2]

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In MusciBee v 3.3.7165 I still cannot find the functionality I asked about above - and so I still cannot add a album shuffled to an existing playlist :-/ Or does I only not find it?

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Can anybody tell me, if one the of the various and for my not transparent options for playing songs random/shuffled is being overholed in any next release?
E.g. I would be happy about include "Play shuffled" from thumbnail view also to music library / album view and add more options ("add shuffled after current song", "add shuffled to end of playlist", "play shuffled (playlist will be emptied)", ...) and this as consistent from everywhere within MusicBee... :-)
Would anybody support to formulate this as "Feature Request"?

Or is it just my stupidness to use / configure MusicBee in the way I want?
My question is still unanswered: how to add an album (or various, or a selection) from Album-view/music-library shuffled to the end of the playlist or as the next songs in shuffled manner??

Any hints are welcome...

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Indeed, that is a different option (I don't use the album icons in the explorer.)
But the result is the same: the album is added to the playlist, but in sorted manner + order-numbers are added but they are also sorted from 1 to last --> I can't see any shuffling.
Maybe there is any other setting messed up in my configuration? hm...
does it work if you test your option from screenshot (and can you test the Strg+E - option)?

edit: Ah, whether the option "Queue shuffled" is available or not is dependent of the playing mode. only for "shuffle" it is available (but results in non-shuffled queue), but shuffle mode itself should mix it later.
The option "Play shuffled" in explorer is always available, but only results in real shuffling if mode "normal" or "auto-DJ" is active, for "shuffle mode" normal order is forced, it is added without shuffle.
strange behaviour.

But how to add the album shuffled to the end of the playlist or after the next song in shuffled manner is still a puzzle for me.... (for mode auto-dj or normal, as "shuffle-mode" doesn't show me, which songs will be play next as it make random jumps within the playlist, which i don't like).

And: why the button "play shuffled" is not also available in the library/album-view available?
hm...

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Edit->Edit Preferences->Now Playing->'Play Now' Action->queue selected tracks next and play now

Was already selected before.

Right click album->Play Shuffled
If you mean "Queue Shuffled (Strg+Enter)" ("Play Shuffled" I can't find) it does not work, unfortunately.
If I select 2 albums and click "Queue Shuffled (Strg+Enter)" first album1 with title 1 to end and then album2 with title 1 to end is added to playlist. No shuffle visible.

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hm, can't find the option you suggested (at least in my german localisation). What you mean exactly? And why you think this would result in a  random order of the album tracks in the playlist?

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Hey,
sometimes I am quite a little bit overwhelmed of the many functions of MusicBee and often get confused while using it - still after one year.

So, here is my question of the day and I hope you can tell me an easy way (or I will make a FeatureRequest of it, if it is simple not possible):

How can I add all the titles of an album from the library but with a RANDOM order and inserting it after the currently playing song into the playlist (without delete or alter existing playlist)?
Two similar question stands for the same: 1) how to add several selected albums of the library to the current position of the playlist in random order and 2) how to add all title of an album in random order to an empty playlist. I can't manage :-/

With non of my following tests I had success for this:
- activating random mode + send to playlist
- rightclick album and "cue randomly" (german: "zufällig abspielen")
- add to playlist (with small "play" arrow-button) selecting all added songs in playlist and looked for anything like "shuffle selected songs" (which doesn't exist). I only can shuffle the WHOLE playlist, but not a selection.

For all the result is, that the songs of the album appear in ther "correct" order in the playlist, and not shuffle is done.

How can I make this?
Thanks and cheers,
Robert

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