Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.


Messages - iristwirl

Pages: 1
1
Questions / Re: Issues with tag hierarchy explorer
« on: July 02, 2022, 12:44:14 PM »
Based on both my prior knowledge that the Genre tag can hold multiple values, and looking at other people's THLs and seeing that they'd been able to assign values to both Genre and Subgenre at multiple levels, my approach to my THL involved assigning top-level genres to Genre and every other level to Subgenre (as made through custom tagging, of course)

For example
Rock (genre) -> Surf rock (subgenre)
Metal (genre) -> Black metal (subgenre) -> Blackgaze (subgenre)
Club & Dance (genre) -> House (subgenre) -> South African house (Subgenre) -> Kwaito (Subgenre)

I can build these relationships in my THL and have the explorer panel accept it without issue, but when I try to enter multiple values (eg 'Black metal' and 'Blackgaze') in my subgenre tag when editing an album/track, the field will only accept the first tag I enter.


Nevermind, I opened MB in case I needed to screenshot/verify anything and my Subgenre tag is now accepting multiple values without any problems.

2
Questions / Re: Issues with tag hierarchy explorer
« on: July 02, 2022, 07:35:15 AM »
Ok, turns out everything's not gravy quite yet...

From my past experiences with using multiple values in Genre just fine and other THLs being set up with 3+ layers just using Genre and Subgenre tags, I figured once I made Subgenre through custom tags I'd just be able to throw the values for multiple layers in there, but nothing on the wiki or forums as given me any clues on whether/how I can get past it refusing to take more than one value.

3
Questions / Re: Issues with tag hierarchy explorer
« on: July 01, 2022, 02:10:28 PM »
…goes from working to simply displaying "All" with no further nodes…
Check karbock's examples in the CODE fields.
(and also what he wrote)

Fixed the single/double colons and now it's all gravy, cheers.

4
Questions / Re: Issues with tag hierarchy explorer
« on: July 01, 2022, 12:55:58 PM »
I've switched to the portable version, which solved the corruption.

After re-reading threads on here I was able to get your THL going, and after a little experimentation I think I've gotten a good enough sense of how to build relationships between tags that I can create a THL based on the genre/subgenre/etc hierarchy I'm in the process of building as I import reorganized pieces of my library.

The point I'm still stuck at is that as far as I can tell I've structured my THL properly, but when I switch from another THL to mine the explorer panel goes from working to simply displaying "All" with no further nodes.


Explorer panel with Genres.txt selected


Explorer panel with the THL I'm piecing together selected


Current state of my THL (having made sure to use 4 spaces and not Tab when editing in Notepad)

5
Questions / Issues with tag hierarchy explorer
« on: June 30, 2022, 12:00:39 PM »
I've recently reinstalled MB after about 2 years away from it, with the intention of reorganizing my library (as some other users of MB do) around a genre -> subgenre hierarchy (ideally in a way that I can take deeper than 2 levels, and tag with multiple branches of as well).

However, even after searching through the forums, I haven't really been able to make sense of any of the methods people used or been able to successfully set up anything through custom tags.

I've also tried making use of the Tag Hierarchy Explorer (alongside hiccup's Enhanced Genre Hierarchy List), but both during my initial attempts to use the panel prior to installation of the Enhanced list as well as after it the panel has displayed an "Error loading hierarchy file: Template is missing or corrupted 'Genres.txt'.

MB itself is installed on my C: drive while my library is on my D: drive, if that has any impact on this.

Does anyone have any insight on how I can get things to work here? Thanks.

6
Beyond MusicBee / Re: How do y'all organize your libraries?
« on: July 10, 2021, 11:14:10 PM »
Metadata is then from foobar"s foo_discogs  tagger, plus fair bit of custom tags maintained by hand or other tools (like bpm, key, instruments, rating, etc)

Yeah, I've talked about it with a friend off Soulseek who DJs from time to time and from there considered using something like Rekordbox for BPM/key analysis, plus considering whether I want to take a more studious ear to my collection - e.g. listening and tagging around "vibe" and rhythmic/sectional/etc aspects of a track so whether I'm listening privately or not I'm giving myself more options that just hunt-and-pecking each track or going off a bog-standard shuffle. I don't know if I've got what it takes to fully commit to doing that though - but on the other hand, being able to engage with some of my music that way is better than none of it, and I should imagine other people out there who take that approach aren't necessarily in a place where they know everything they want to off the cuff about all their music.

I should also note since I saw record store inspired organization come up - I do tend to seek out a fair few of 'unofficial' tracks/edits/sets/etc from different places and so in between that and my natural inclinations around sorting and info I'm not someone who's concerned with the ASCAP-y aspects of music info. Labels and such do have some relevance to me, but in ways that I already plan to cover through refining my approach to compilations/loosies/etc.

7
Beyond MusicBee / Re: How do y'all organize your libraries?
« on: July 08, 2021, 11:09:25 AM »
Is your question regarding file and folder structure, or about tagging practices? Or both perhaps?

Mostly tagging practices and stuff accessible through Musicbee - all I really need to around folder structure is moving around the five-to-ten percent that's sitting in individual album folders within my main Library folder rather than in Album Artist - Album ones, and maybe split my Various Artists one into some more specific ones.

8
Beyond MusicBee / How do y'all organize your libraries?
« on: July 07, 2021, 11:18:28 AM »
As far as organization of my music library went I used to use a system that'd probably be considered fairly run-of-the-mill - one level of genre tagging (although I did make use of multi-tagging), star ratings, the occasional attempt at making a playlist, and that was it. However, about a year or so ago I found myself getting to the point where in between deciding what genres/subgenres I wanted to distinguish between (and how I'd incorporate other people's descriptions of genre into that system, especially at the kind of level where I couldn't pick out exactly where something fit just by ear), and so I ended up ditching it, which has definitely worked better for me than something that had become a little confusing and underutilized for me.

However, I'm finally getting around to reorganizing both my actual file structure and doing a reinstall of MusicBee after I had some issues with it a couple of updates back, and I've decided I want to take this opportunity to look at and think about interacting with my music in the way that best suits me.

One solution I've considered to this is auto-tagging (either drawing from Discogs like I know other people do, or potentially other sources) - even if still 'flawed' (debates on genre taxonomy aside), it'd probably be more consistent and useful than anything I might come up with on my own at this stage.

I've also thought about re-engaging with the idea of playlists - but instead of making myself think in terms of actual playlists, using additional tag slots to develop 'collections' (e.g. vogue edits, gym music, those sorts of things).

I deal with fatigue that comes and goes as part of some long-term health issues, so the enthusiasm I have for how much energy I actually wanna invest in my library can vary from time to time accordingly.

I'd love to hear your thoughts on any of this, and/or organization methods you've found that might be worth trying out.

9
I'm running 3.3.7310 on my main computer, and I'd recently managed to revive a laptop I thought was dead, so among the files I'd retrieved from it was a backup of the instance of MusicBee (Version 2, but I don't know which update specifically) I'd had on there. I was trying to load the settings I'd had on that instance into my main version of MB, and since it showed a compatible and selectable file in the Load Settings Snapshot dialog, I thought I'd be able to load my settings in successfully.

However, doing so rendered my library and layout as seen in MB blank, as though it was a fresh install (the music files themselves along with the other files from my installation, appear untouched). When I try to load the "!! previous settings" file from the Saved Settings folder within my appdata folder, it gives me an unexpected error which it instructed me to report here:

Quote
MusicBee v3.3.7310.31925D  (Win10.0), 29 Dec 2020 23:23:

#=zCf4VQ_fbhtH95rz2gNmFAbQ=+#=zQpNJpAzXUl5a+#=zbyY4mKBij0RF: The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process. [C:\Users\Ben\AppData\Roaming\MusicBee\MusicBee3Settings.ini]
   at #=zCf4VQ_fbhtH95rz2gNmFAbQ=.#=zQpNJpAzXUl5a.#=zu5xWrFY=.#=zKN_Cq4s=(#=zlkE2wlw28gwaYlXF4g== #=z99nYcap$iMbi, #=zlkE2wlw28gwaYlXF4g== #=zeneE4Ytpu6ju, Boolean #=zJTtBcLI5q0cI, Boolean #=zmFaAsvwdppoG)
   at #=zdRddAG2q7x5I$VaZLhRt54nbElrv.#=zj$n9AIIlH415.#=z$mZBFz2QelwbvfrY7G_XYuM=(Object #=z2g8LTV4=, EventArgs #=zS9VYR_E=)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.RaiseEvent(Object key, EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripMenuItem.OnClick(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleClick(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleMouseUp(MouseEventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEventInteractive(EventArgs e, ToolStripItemEventType met)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEvent(EventArgs e, ToolStripItemEventType met)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripDropDown.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripDropDown.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


10
Then it will be under C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\MusicBee folder.
If you use Windows Explorer, you will need to enable show hidden files/folders option in File Explorer Options to see it.
Then copy your previous settings to that folder except Internal Cache folder. After restart, if you point to your current library it should work afterwards.

Yep, it's solved both issues. Thanks!

11
I don't understand this part.

there was no AppData folder set up by the new MB installation

Whether it's standard or portable installation, it should have the folder (though in different location) where you could copy your previous settings. Which one did you install?

Standard installation (Version 3.1.6512, as previously mentioned)

12
I installed MusicBee (3.1.6512) on a new computer yesterday, copying in my settings I'd backed up from my previous computer's musicbee installation - there was no AppData folder set up by the new MB installation, but when I named the folder of previous settings AppData and copied it into the installation folder on the new computer, I found MB had successfully taken on all the settings without complaint.

I then pointed MB to scan a folder on the new computer I have all my music files in, and it again entered everything into a library without issue.

However, I have two issues that are happening everytime I launch MB:

- The first is MB telling me I need to select a library to continue upon starting the program (despite the fact I do not have "always prompt for library selection when MusicBee starts up" turned on. (It suggests paths that I've used at two different points for the library on the previous computer, if that's at all relevant). I point it to the .mbl file that the installation's made on the new computer each time.... it still makes the same request upon startup.

- The second is even though all my files have artwork embedded within the music files (which I can still view and interact with Artwork tab in the Edit dialog, and which displays in the Track Information panel on the Right Sidebar), the Main Panel itself displays the albums as if they have no cover art.

Does anyone know what could be causing either/both of these?

13
I imported a collection of mp3 files from the same source into MB, and while the others all came in fine, one file in particular shows up as 50 seconds shorter than its actual length, and while I can edit the tags and so on, when I attempt to play it I get an "Unable to play this file - it has an unsupported format or is corrupted" message.

I opened the file with VLC media player and and it played for the full and actual length with no issues, so while I haven't tested it with other media players besides that it seems fairly safe to say the file isn't actually corrupted.

Is there anything I can do about this? Thanks.

14
Questions / Library on Portable HDD
« on: August 31, 2014, 01:57:37 PM »
Since my hard drive's fairly small, I keep my music on a 1TB portable drive - is it easy enough to get MB to use a folder on it as my library?

Pages: 1