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Hi folks,

I am wondering that there is not any feedback or support for this idea so far. Is it really so strange to think about a combination of streamed music and stored music within MusicBee ? From my point of view this could be a real new killer feature for MB.

I detected the "Tomahawk player", which is working with metadata of different music sources (like local libraries, paid streaming services via URL etc.) - but of course all the brillant features I love MusicBee for, are not included.

Are there really no plans to implement this ? - where are the principal supporters to bring this forward ?

Rachmaninoff

   

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Hi guys, is there any possibility to use MusicBee as a powerful administrator for music streaming services (like Deezer, Spotify etc.).

As you know you can copy easily the URL for specific tracks from Deezer / Spotify to use them for external playlists - assuming of course you have an account on those streaming services.
Usually Deezer / Spotify are providing their own platforms to manage your music library and your private playlists - but the functionality is very basic and in comparison to MusicBee absolutely poor (no taggings, no auto playlists etc.).
So finally MusicBee could be the best tool for that, in case it would be possible to address directly via URL the tracks on Deezer / Spotify.

Furthermore both "music worlds" could be maintained then from one platform only - the mp3 music stored on your own device and the streamed music via Deezer / Spotify. Are there any plans for that in the future ?

Kind regards
Rachmaninoff

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Hi Bee-liever,

I have a premium+ account for Deezer - and of course I can't expect that all developers and experts from MB have the same permissions to test all possible solutions.
But if I understand you correctly, you are assuming that with my Deezer premium account I normally should be able to receive streaming URLs to embed them into MusicBee AXS files - the question really is, how do I get this URL information without big workarounds or without using "dubious software"?

If there is no easy way in place - perhaps this might have good reasons.
If there are any other MB fans, which uses like me beyond their MP3 files a Deezer or a Sonos account in parallel, I really would appreciate your experiences. As you might know, the Sonos Contoller also provide access to Deezer music and playlists via URL- so this information must be "somewhere" on my PC, but obviously I am not professional enough to find it.

Have a nice weekend
Rachmaninoff

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Thx for that.
It nearly works, but the music I received is corrupted and with less quality - but I will try it further on.
Nevertheless even with perfect results I conclude all in all that this procedure to play URL streams via Musicbee ASX files seems to be very cumbersome and complex - I would have thought that there are easier solutions like "Copy & Paste" etc in place - especially for users like me without big IT background.

I am wondering, why there are those massive technical restrictions - there must be thousands of music listeners which are using both worlds (music streaming + MP3 on PC). The question how to manage both worlds the best way cannot only be answered by using 2 different players with separated libraries, playlists, tags etc.

Perhaps I am too naive, but maybe there are some juristical issues to consider - which I don't see currently. I paid for my mp3 files and I paid monthly for the streaming - so I paid for the music and not for the platform to use for listening. My impression is, that exactly this unique platform for managing both doesn't exist - and if so, this would be a great feature for MB as well.
 
Interesting discussion, by the way ...





 

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I tried it with your 30 second preview and it works for me, too - of course it is limited quality and not the complete song.

So the question might be, how to get the correct URL to stream the whole song.
When I press within Deezer the button for "Copy Deezer URL" for a specific song, I get the address provided in my previous posts - apparently this is not feasible to combine it with the ASX file - it must be another URL.

Can I ask you how did you get the preview URL ?

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Thx Bee-liever for your thread.
I guess I didn't get all discussed details around the ASX stuff, but nevertheless in the meanwhile I created an empty ASX-file from a duplicated music file. I can edit it and tag it, and put in a URL address from a Deezer track in "Properties / origin website" - then save.

When I try to play it, MB has to think 3-5 seconds about it and then ... nothing happened.
So I think, there is something MB tries to do, but it doesn't work at the end - perhaps I get it wrong, or the URLs are not feasible.

But if somebody wants to give it a try ... - the URLs should work without any Premium account for Deezer or Spotify.

https://play.spotify.com/track/1h8v7w3v6hOkvLbbK4BUzE

http://www.deezer.com/track/953784?utm_source=deezer&utm_content=track-953784&utm_term=630356031_1426836438&utm_medium=web

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Beyond my MP3 files stored on my PC I am also using Deezer for music streaming and to discover new music.
Deezer itself can provide specific URLs for each song to make Deezer playlists or to share those music files with friends etc.

Is there any possibility to embed those URLs into the MusicBee library ?
So I would be able to combine my own MP3 music with the streaming music from the Web
- to bring them together in mixed playlists
- to tag also the URL files with additional information (genre, composer etc.) which I can't do in Deezer
- to rate also the Deezer songs etc.

The combination of both worlds (stored music and streamed music) in one single audio player like MB would be very interesting, and I am sure that there is a solution in place which I am not aware of.

Thx, Rachmaninoff

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Yes, definitively sure - if the artist gap is set to 1 (or higher), all associated tracks never will come together - if you switch back to 0, it works again.
But finally this is consequent in its logic - it's only to keep this in mind, when you want to listen to combined tracks. 

Rachmaninoff

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Steven, congratulations, it really works now.

The problem was not any "abnormal" random mode, there are some constraints within my AutoDJ and with the tagging procedure, which might be evident, but of course you've got to think of that first.

a) the most important one: Auto DJ restiction "gap before the same artist can repeat" MUST BE 0 - it was 20 when I tested it the first time ...

b) you have to tick both tracks with the new flag - track 1 AND track 2 - not only track 1 (which I thought it is enough information ...)

c) if you want to do this, you can`t edit track 1 first and set your flag to YES, then save it, and the track 2 the same way - it doesn't work
>> you have to mark both tracks together, edit both, and chose "YES" for "keep tracks in sequence..."

But if you are playing those rules - it works perfectly - thx a lot   :)

Rachmaninoff
 

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Yes, Redwing - the list contains both tracks.
But even if not, the combination of 2 (or more) tracks in sequence should work when only one of the associated tracks is in the current play list.

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Hi Steven,

how can I send a screenshot to you ? - pls let me know ...

I have an example list of 19 tracks (two Joe Jackson albums) - the first two (track 1,2) are ticked as a sequence - I chose random mode - I start the list by playing track 1 from the first album and I am awaiting that the next one being played will be track 2 - but it is ... track 5 from the second album.

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Hi Steven,

mmh, I took the new version - but I'm sorry, I don't see (and hear) any difference to the status before. Perhaps we really talk here about different things in detail, I am not sure, whether your update and my "problem" have the same purpose.

Mostly I am using the Auto-DJ function - perhaps the Auto-DJ ignores the new feature.
Anyway, I ticked the tracks 1,2,3 from the the same album with the new flag, and whenever Auto-DJ takes one of those, only the chosen one is played. As mentioned in the posts before, I would expect, that always 1,2,3 are played as a associated sequence (beginning with track 1), whenever the Auto-DJ (or any other random playlist mode) choses track 1 OR track 2 OR track 3.

Perhaps you will find the time to look for that again - many thanks and a nice carnival weekend.
Rachmaninoff





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As the initiator of this post I also want ot say thx for all changes being made so far - but to be honest, it doesn't affect my intentions.
Like Redwing stated before - ticking the new flag for track 1,2,3 to be played in sequence has no effect by using Auto-DJ (or any other random mode).
If track 1 was played, another song from the playlist is chosen, but not track 2 (which I ticked the sequence flag for).

Perhaps I got it wrong, but my wish was, whenever track 1 is chosen randomly, track 2 AND 3 have to follow. And if track 3 is chosen randomly, it always has to start with track 1 followed by track 2 AND 3.
All ticked flags in sequence from the same album should be handled like one associated file - that was the original purpose of this thread.

Kind regards
Rachmaninoff

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Questions / Re: Musicbee and Sonos System - how to connect ?
« on: January 15, 2015, 04:30:58 PM »
Hi,
I am wondering a little bit, that apparently not many people within the Musicbee community uses the Sonos sound system.
By the way, my Sonos system is technically up and running - it works perfectly with the offered streaming sources - but you are forced to use the "Sonos Controlling App" to choose your music and playlists (from the Musicbee library).
The functionality of the Sonos App does the most essentials, but in comparison to Musicbee it is a really poor and deflating tool.

So my question is, how to use the Sonos sound system together with the MusicBee tool in perfect symbiosis.

For now I can use
a) the Musicbee tool and its functionality with a direct line-in from PC into the Sonos Play5 speaker - but the volume is technically down-sized and limited - this can only be used for low-volume situations but not for parties or any pleasurable hearing.
>> so you got the perfect tool, but a poor sound

b) the Musicbee library is transferred to the Sonos database and all playlists functionalities and extended taggings are gone within the app. Of course you can export Musicbee playlists also to Sonos and use them from there, but this is cumbersome and redundant work.
>> so you got the perfect sound, but a poor tool

Any experiences with that ?
Thx in advance
Martin

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Questions / Musicbee and Sonos System - how to connect ?
« on: January 10, 2015, 02:16:01 PM »
Hi Musicbee fans,
I am using Musicbee since several months now - and today I tried to connect the Musicbee player directly with my new Sonos System (Play5 speakers) - Sonos works properly with Deezer and other Internet radios via "Sonos Controller", so the hardware seems to be installed correctly.

Nevertheless - I didn't get any direct connection with Musicbee - except via the "Sonos Controller", which has access to my music directory.
Is there any way to play Musicbee tracks and playlists without the Sonos tool ?

Perhaps I have to change my player setting - or my audio settings in Windows 7 - or I have to install an additional plug-in ?
I don't know - any help for me - thx in advance.

Rachmaninoff


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