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Title: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on January 22, 2013, 07:27:23 PM
Help wanted!

Here's a list of pages that could use filling in: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Under_Construction

I suggest leaving the Under Construction template in place until a page is almost done.  Don't be afraid to make a mess - cleaning and streamlining is the part I like best, anyway.


Also, we're getting to the point that it's not worth keeping a list of pages.  Swing over and check things out.  Still definitely a work in progress, but it's getting to have some meaningful content.

http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Special:AllPages
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: lnminente on January 22, 2013, 08:10:19 PM
Good work! Thanks Scampbll (Y)
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: Steven on January 22, 2013, 08:12:31 PM
it think the preferences explanations are going to be really appreciated by new starters
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: beeing good on January 23, 2013, 06:12:10 AM
Fantastic work, it is surely widely appreciated.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: Iasc on January 23, 2013, 06:52:22 AM
great work, thanks scampbll
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on January 25, 2013, 09:52:55 PM
I was playing around with trying to mark the default settings in a better way than just plain text.  I could use some feedback - it's implemented on this page right now: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/General_Preferences#File_Types

Thanks!
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: redwing on January 26, 2013, 02:41:06 AM
Good job!

Two suggestions:

1. How about using different colors for headings and body text? A little hard to read.

2. Why didn't you use a screenshot with all default settings of normal install version? Then you didn't have to describe them in text.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on January 26, 2013, 03:00:03 AM
I did use a screenshot with all default settings (for portable).   I thought some folks might find it helpful to know the defaults without having to look at the image (I know a number of people who use screen readers, for example).

I will fiddle with the headings - I agree that they don't stand out enough.  Maybe making them pure white would help.

Edit: Fiddling accomplished.  I toned down the green and tinted the names of the settings blue.  Let me know what you think.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on February 02, 2013, 06:37:02 PM
Thanks to whoever stickied this!

I'm still working on Preferences:

http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Preferences

There's also a page on reporting bugs, including a list of known bugs/issues that can't or won't be addressed any time soon.  Please feel free to add to it.

http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Bugs_%26_Problems
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on February 06, 2013, 07:05:44 AM
Now that I'm getting into layout settings (see Track Detail View page, for instance), more screenshots would be really useful.  If I posted a list of needed screenshots, would you all be willing to provide some?  They don't need to be marked up, and I think it's fine if there are different skins involved.  You could add them directly or post them here and I could add them.

For instance, right now it would be helpful to have shots of:

*Track Details view with Group By headers
*Album and Tracks with only some tracks for each album showing
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on February 24, 2013, 02:48:56 AM
Big thanks to tom_dl for creating our Playlists page!

http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Playlists

Between the two of us, we've also managed to get the main layout page into usable form (though subpages still need work):

http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/The_Anatomy_of_MusicBee
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on June 25, 2013, 08:21:28 PM
Whew!  I have at long last completed the pages for the sidebars:

http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Left_Sidebar
http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Right_Sidebar

Let me know if I overlooked anything major.

The next item on my agenda is making sure that all the old online help stuff that hasn't been covered yet is copied and formatted, and then to polish up the Preferences pages.  I think at that point it'll be officially ready for linking.

If anyone wants to tackle the new Compact Player, be my guest:

http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Compact_Player
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: Xyzzy on June 26, 2013, 09:16:45 AM
Hi

I think a More help > Dialogs page should be added, to include dialog references in the same way as Menus.

Is it possible to have some kind of tag to mark sentences requiring verification?
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on June 26, 2013, 04:01:36 PM
I've created one.  Insert this code at the end of a questionable sentence: {{?}}

Rather than all dialogs, how about a Tools menu?


Added: There is a Dialogs category that I think I've added everything on the wiki so far to.

http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Dialogs

Did you do the Sorting/Grouping preferences?  Nice work!
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on June 27, 2013, 04:56:12 PM
Okay, all online help files have been copied over and properly formatted, with appropriate screenshots.  In related news, Preferences are also basically complete.  Huzzah!

http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Preferences
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: Xyzzy on June 28, 2013, 04:06:01 PM
How can I easilly access and apply templates used in the wiki? There are a few templates in the right sidebar during editing, but they are irrelevant.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on June 28, 2013, 04:25:34 PM
Yeah, the right sidebar is mostly useless.  This page is linked from the front page of the wiki, and should list all templates (I'm working on tracking down any strays, but it definitely includes everything I created):

http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Templates

To apply a template, use {{TemplateName}}, or with parameters it's {{TemplateName|param 1|param 2|etc}}.


Edit: Also, I fixed the typo I made in {{?}}.  :)
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on June 29, 2013, 10:54:55 PM
A heads up for everybody:

Steven has linked the Online Help to the wiki (should already be in effect for all, doesn't require an update), and as I was checking it out for the first time I realized that it's actually possible to interact with the pages directly through the help window in MB.  (I was able to sign in, which vastly reduces the number of ads that you see, even without adblock).  

That, combined with turning on the Article Comments feature, means that it's very likely we'll start receiving questions directly on the wiki soon.  I have my eye pretty closely on the Recent Changes page (http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Special:RecentChanges) and get email notifications for new edits.  If anyone else wants general email notifications, I can probably give you permissions for that (you'd need an account, of course).  Anyone with an account can "follow" particular pages and be notified of edits to that page specifically.

(I should add, there seems to be a mix of old online help and new at the moment, but when you pull it up you are first directed to the wiki.)
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on June 30, 2013, 01:41:44 AM
I added a site-wide notice to the wiki that folks from Online Help should see, too.  I also added a link to the forum on the UnderConstruction template.  Feedback or change requests welcome.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: boroda on June 30, 2013, 10:53:57 AM
Great!
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: Xyzzy on June 30, 2013, 11:52:05 AM
Edit: Also, I fixed the typo I made in {{?}}.  :)

I think {{?}} should not apply break-line.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on June 30, 2013, 02:41:04 PM
I think I fixed it.  Thanks for pointing that out.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: Xyzzy on July 01, 2013, 09:24:34 AM
Hi,

I think a template is missing for internal highlighting/referencing, fe. when I want to put an option name in another option's desription.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: Xyzzy on July 01, 2013, 10:58:48 AM
What about a small reorganization of wiki topics? The current setup is a bit confusing sometimes.

MusicBee Basics - this should cover official pages, general 'finding your way around' information and basic MusicBee concepts and procedures (without reference material, but extensively cross-referenced): MusicBee Official, Starting (covers installation and first run), Basic procedures (contents of Music and Organization more or less), Basic concepts (what is a tag, a library, a music file etc).

More Help - it should cover advanced procedures, all reference information and troubleshooting information:
Advanced procedures (fe. reorganization, replaygain setup, using Auto-DJ), References (panels, Preferences, dialogs, menus, detailed concepts), Troubleshooting

Customization - it should cover Layout/ Appearance/ Plugins as it is now, with Misc section spread over Basics and More Help.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on July 02, 2013, 12:00:14 AM
Hi,

I think a template is missing for internal highlighting/referencing, fe. when I want to put an option name in another option's desription.

Can you give me an example?  It probably just needs a link and a redirect.

What about a small reorganization of wiki topics? The current setup is a bit confusing sometimes.

It sound like you're describing basically what exists now.  What specifically do you want changed?
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: Xyzzy on July 04, 2013, 01:33:08 PM
Hi,

I think a template is missing for internal highlighting/referencing, fe. when I want to put an option name in another option's desription.

Can you give me an example?  It probably just needs a link and a redirect.

Custom Tags page, sentence "They are available by default on save to music file as tag drop-down. ". I would like 'save to music file as tag', which is an option name, to be at least highlighted, or even better a link to option description (strange manner of lower case options doesn't help readability as well.

What about a small reorganization of wiki topics? The current setup is a bit confusing sometimes.

It sound like you're describing basically what exists now.  What specifically do you want changed?

Well, it's all written...
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on July 04, 2013, 03:40:09 PM
Custom Tags page, sentence "They are available by default on save to music file as tag drop-down. ". I would like 'save to music file as tag', which is an option name, to be at least highlighted, or even better a link to option description (strange manner of lower case options doesn't help readability as well.

I was just following the way it is in MusicBee with the lowercase options.  You're welcome to change it.

You can create bold text in wikis by placing three single quotes on either side of it: '''text'''.  (Two single quotes will make italics.)

If you want to color text, you can use this format: <span style="color:#XXXXXX">text</span>, where XXXXXX is a hex code (or you can use a color name such as found here: http://www.w3schools.com/cssref/css_colornames.asp).

I've linked the text to the Tags Preferences page for now, but the reason the "save music file to tag as" doesn't have an explanation on the Preferences page is because it is expected to be explained in more detail (with screenshots, etc) on the Custom Tags page.  Working on a better solution...

Update: I have added an anchor link to the {{Setting}} template.  What that means is that you can link to any of the highlighted settings from within the same page by using {{In|setting name}}, if "setting name" is the same text used for the setting itself (case sensitive).  To link to a setting using different text, you can use [[#setting name|other text]].  To link to it from another page, use [[Setting Page#setting name|text]].
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on July 05, 2013, 03:42:31 PM
Given the recent questions on the subject, I started the Backup & Restore page.   Can anyone add to this list of things you might want to backup?

http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Backup_%26_Restore#What_Goes_Where
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on July 16, 2013, 03:21:37 AM
If anyone's interested, our daily visits on the wiki have been roughly between 750 and 950 for the last week.  That's up from around 200 before the new online help was implemented.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: Steven on July 16, 2013, 07:47:29 PM
the old help topics are still getting quite a few hits - i expect google will direct people more to the wiki over time but if anyone knows how to improve the ranking of the wiki when people search musicbee then please let me know
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on July 16, 2013, 09:21:29 PM
I don't know about google, but the old online help can still be reached from within MB by clicking on Table of Contents.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on July 29, 2013, 06:24:39 PM
I'm testing out a new background on the wiki.  Feedback welcome.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: Steven on July 29, 2013, 06:29:43 PM
are the ads gone now?
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on July 29, 2013, 06:34:12 PM
Do you mean the ads that were taking up the whole background?  I haven't seen them recently, thank goodness (I think wikia may have gotten some backlash for that).  The usual banner ads are there.  I think I'll add a guide to the front page on how to get rid of those if you're logged in.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: Steven on July 30, 2013, 08:08:08 PM
i really like the new background - makes it look much better
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on October 22, 2013, 03:45:00 PM
A little belated, but thanks, Steven.  :)

Is anyone attached to the "Read More" section at the bottom of the wiki pages?  I'm going to request to have it removed because I'm creating our own navigation aids (see here for the Layout box I just created: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/The_Anatomy_of_MusicBee#Tabs) and it takes up a lot of room between the article and the comments, which I think is especially problematic if someone is browsing from within MusicBee.

Wikia always asks for a "community discussion" on these things, so I want to make sure no one's going to mind the change.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: redwing on October 22, 2013, 04:00:34 PM
That sounds good.

Just noticed two things while browsing Help page from MB.

- the three navigation, refresh icons next to home button need to be replaced with clean ones.
- the content of home page (Table of Contents) look old. How about just directing to wiki homepage?

<added>

Maybe better directing to Table of Contents of pdf version, if that's stored on the wiki?
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on October 22, 2013, 04:03:32 PM
That sounds good.

Just noticed two things while browsing Help page from MB.

- the three navigation, refresh icons next to home button need to be replaced with clean ones.
- the content of home page (Table of Contents) look old. How about just directing to wiki homepage?

It's redirecting to the wiki for me, and the table of content links go to the wiki.  Steven said there was some reason he needed to leave the ToC page, though.  I agree the navigation buttons look ugly on anything but a white background.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: redwing on October 22, 2013, 04:13:53 PM
If I click on home button, it takes me to the ToC page with a few links on a blank background. That doesn't look good and won't be much helpful. Just a suggestion.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on October 22, 2013, 04:24:06 PM
If I click on home button, it takes me to the ToC page with a few links on a blank background. That doesn't look good and won't be much helpful. Just a suggestion.

Steven will have to address that one, sorry.  :)
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: redwing on October 22, 2013, 04:35:41 PM
Yeah I was talking to Steven about that one :)

BTW as I added above, using pdf version might be better than directing to wiki page directly, on the condition that the pdf is up-to-date and stored on the wiki.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: Steven on October 22, 2013, 06:39:41 PM
is there a concise Table of Contents page to link to?
I can still change it for the v2.2 release
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: boroda on October 22, 2013, 07:12:20 PM
I think current wiki "landing page" could be used as the root of MB help for 2.2
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: Steven on October 22, 2013, 07:31:51 PM
there is almost no point to having a controlled help browser any more. I might just change it to open the landing page in the user's default browser
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: Steven on October 22, 2013, 07:54:35 PM
i have updated it to only open the wiki landing page in the user's default browser. I would appreciate if someone could have a play by opening the help screen from a few dialog windows, although there are quite a lot still not directly mapped to a wiki page

http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V2_2/MusicBee_Exe_Patched.zip
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: redwing on October 22, 2013, 10:02:32 PM
Here's a list of some missing link dialogs with a corresponding wiki page. Can't be sure this is a complete one.

- Library section of Preferences currently directs to landing page: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Library_Preferences
- Inbox node: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Inbox#Inbox

- Hightlighting help button doesn't work: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Highlighting
- Backup dialog has no help button: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Backup_%26_Restore
- Search box: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Search
- Album auto tagger: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Auto-Tagging#Auto-Tagging

- Auto-playlist: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Auto-Playlists#Auto-Playlists
- Playlists: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Playlists
- Playlist mixers: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Playlists#Playlist_Mixers

- Now Playing preferences: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Now_Playing_Preferences
- Tracks Details view configuration pane: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Track_Detail_View#Customize_Panel_Settings
- Album and Tracks view configuration pane: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Album_and_Tracks_View#Customize_Panel_Settings
- Artwork view configuration pane: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Artwork_View#Customize_Panel_Settings
- Playing Track panel view configuration pane: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Playing_Track_Panel

<Currently blank wiki page>
- Auto-DJ node: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Auto_DJ
- Compact player: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Compact_Player
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: Steven on October 22, 2013, 10:35:25 PM
for v2.2 i can only associate a dialog window to a help page, so wont be able to do anything with the auto-dj panel for example
I will have a look at these tomorrow and update the mappings where i can
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on October 22, 2013, 10:52:48 PM
there is almost no point to having a controlled help browser any more. I might just change it to open the landing page in the user's default browser

I think that's a good call.  It works great for me.  Testing dialog help links now.

p.s. Nice work, redwing!
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on November 22, 2013, 10:06:14 PM
FYI, Wikia is making some kind of change on December 4 that may affect how pages display.  If there are any problems on our wiki, let me know and I'll look into fixing them.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: redwing on February 22, 2014, 05:51:47 AM
Just a suggestion. How about incorporating the wiki homepage and online help landing page?
The thing is that mouseover menu on the homepage is not as helpful as it should be for finding out items many visitors would likely be looking for. Have to look around each menu item for a while.  Also those menus are not available when you access from a mobile device. If the wiki homepage has the current menu on online help landing page (plus some more most visited pages), that'd be very helpful.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on February 22, 2014, 06:45:21 AM
I think my original reason for making the landing page separate had to do with the fact that it opened within MusicBee, both for space reasons and because it allowed linking users directly to the content, skipping all the wikia advertising crap.  Since that's no longer an issue, sure.  Why don't you tackle porting over the content?    The main page layout is a little different from other pages, but there are helpful comments in the code to guide you.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: redwing on February 22, 2014, 10:42:07 AM
That makes sense. I didn't think about the ads.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on February 27, 2014, 08:13:47 AM
Since I had to update them for the new theme, I went ahead and finished a project I started a while ago of putting navigation tools on most of the wiki pages.  They overlap a lot with the menus at the top, but are placed at the bottom of the page to save scrolling and focus on pages related to the current page.  Additionally, they automatically include the page in the relevant category.

There are navigation categories for:
Preferences
Layout
Library Management (a miscellaneous category for navigation and organization tools)
File Management (a subcategory of library management)
Tag Management (ditto)
[Added] Playback
[Added] Menus

See Tag Preferences for an example:
http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Tags_Preferences


Feedback welcome!
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: boroda on February 27, 2014, 10:39:47 AM
Looks cool. Thank you, scampbll!
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on March 01, 2014, 07:24:03 AM
Glad you like it.  :)

I've been fine-tuning the top menu, too, including some new tricks I've learned from Wikia.  Considering turning the Plugins and How-To's menus into dynamic lists based on popularity, but I don't yet trust that it's working as intended on Wikia's end...

Edit: Okay, I think I've figured it out.  What do you all think of the idea of a dynamic list rather than the current static list?  It would be the top 7 articles, plus I could manually add up to 3 items to each list.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: boroda on March 01, 2014, 10:31:31 AM
+1. Please leave "All items" menu entry as is.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on March 01, 2014, 11:43:02 PM
I've made the change.  Give it 24 hours for everything to get sorted out.  I shortened some of the page names for readability, but that's not reflected yet.  Nevermind, looks like Wikia has it sorted out now.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on March 03, 2014, 03:07:13 AM
Okay, I think I have the main menus pretty much covered.   These pages aren't meant to document much directly, just provide relevant links.  Let me know if I missed any problems.  Thanks!

You can find them all linked from this page: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Program_Menus
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: redwing on July 26, 2014, 04:16:19 AM
I always thought how-to section on the wiki is a mess. Not easy to browse available items and guess what each item is about.

Here are my suggestions.

- "All how-to" page should list sub-categories and items of each category to give a glance of all available guides. Current grid view and alphabetical order of list view are useless.
- Some guides already assigned to sub-categories are not tagged as "guides". Should be consistent.
- Nobody knows what AT&RT means. Better to be assigned to "Tagging" category along with other tagging guides regardless of the plugin use.

------------

Here's my categorization of currently posted guides.

<Devices>
How to Fast Sync Android Device
How To Have Songs with Album Covers on Your Samsung Galaxy Nexus/Android
Making Your Archos 5 Internet Tablet with Android to Work with MusicBee
MusicBee Autoplay for MTP Devices
MusicBee Remote for Android
Synchronize Android by Wifi

<iTunes>
Compilations, Podcasts and Audiobooks
Converting ReplayGain Values to SoundCheck Values
Exporting Ratings into iTunes
How to export MB library to iTunes
Importing Podcasts from iTunes

<Layout>
Configuring Default Column Set
Configuring the Layout
Skinning Guide
Using Sort Order

<Misc.>
AutoDJ - Creating A Custom Radio
Playing an Internet Radio Station with "hidden" URL with MB
Using VideoLAN VLC Player for Video Podcasts Inside MusicBee

<Organizing>
An Autohotkey Script for Rating Your Songs Faster
Copy Lossless Library To Portable MP3/AAC format
Fastest way to delete a gigantic size of previous backup
How to Create a File-Naming Template
How To Organize Classical Songs
Removing Double Windows 7 Taskbar Icon
Searching for Artists Like Beyoncé and Tiësto (MUST for Regular Keyboards)
Sharing a Library over LAN

<Playlists>
Adding "Make Playlist(s)" to Folder Context Menu
Advanced Auto-Playlist
Best of Year Playlist
How To Easily Fix Broken Playlists

<Tagging>
Appending Some Text to Tags
Converting ReplayGain Values to SoundCheck Values
Copying Tags After a Certain Word
Copying Tags Before a Certain Word
Embedding Artwork into Multiple Albums
How to Automate Song Title Capitalization
How To Make MusicBee Recognize Your Collection of Lyrics
How to save Play Count to music files as tag
How to use "text file to tags" feature
Identifying Songs
Importing Foobar Playcounts
Removing Everything Before or After a Certain Word in Tags
Removing Space at the Beginning of a Field
Swapping Positions Within The Same Field
Tagging Multiple Artists with Picard
Useful Virtual Tag Formulas
Using "Clipboard to Tags" Feature

<Web Links>
All Music (AMG) Web Links for Artist/Album Info
Looking Up Guitar Tabs for Currently Playing Song
Using Amazon mp3 Downloads in MusicBee
Web Encyclopedia List
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on July 26, 2014, 04:22:07 AM
This sounds like a great idea.  You have the ability to add and remove categories, so why don't you go for it?
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: redwing on July 26, 2014, 04:24:35 AM
OK, I'll do that part.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on July 26, 2014, 04:26:26 AM
Great, thanks!

I'm a little swamped at the moment, but want to put my energy into adding the new skinning elements ASAP.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on October 10, 2014, 05:30:01 PM
FYI, just changed my display name here to match the one on Wikia.  To save confusion, hopefully.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: Pingaware on October 10, 2014, 05:50:50 PM
FYI, just changed my display name here to match the one on Wikia.  To save confusion, hopefully.

It's going to take me forever to get used to that scampbll :P
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on October 10, 2014, 06:03:19 PM
Well, yes, I imagine it will create confusion in the short run.  :)
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on February 26, 2016, 03:43:02 AM
I'm beginning to work on updating the wiki for 3.0.  Any help is welcome!

I got screenshots of all the preferences pages and all of the main menu today, but I don't have them uploaded yet.

I updated the File Menu page first because it was quick and it's changed SO much lately (screen caps will be added probably tomorrow): http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/File_Menu

My next priority is updating the layout pages, which will need a major overhaul.  Pretty soon I'll start posting pages here that could use help, because there's no way I can get all of this done myself in any kind of timely fashion.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on March 07, 2016, 07:44:25 AM
I've finished the first round of updates, which is mostly the Preferences pages and the Main Menu pages because I see those as the "skeleton" of the site.  I also overhauled "The Anatomy of Music Bee" to basically be a reference for the new Panels Configuration window.

Other than general updates:
*I have tried to include the version number at the top of every page
*I've done a search-and-replace to make sure that spelling matches the MusicBee default spelling (mostly changing -ize to -ise or -yze to -yse).  It doesn't matter so much in the text, but I'd like all the page names and headings to match, and use redirects for alternate spellings.
*I've tried to update all panel and element names to match panels configuration, for consistency

Please feel free to check over these pages and make sure everything looks right, all links go where expected, etc (don't worry about red links):
http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/The_Anatomy_of_MusicBee
http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Preferences (including subpages)
http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Menu (including subpages)

The only "content page" I've done much with yet is Devices.  Please feel free to fill in info anywhere you see that needs it.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on March 08, 2016, 04:26:30 AM
Does anyone mind if I delete how-tos that are defunct?  For instance, I don't think this is possible anymore:

http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/AutoDJ_-_Creating_A_Custom_Radio
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: Steven on March 08, 2016, 05:56:26 PM
that seems sensible
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on March 11, 2016, 07:30:27 AM
Here's a new page: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Panel_Views

Can you all think of anything else that needs to be mentioned re: main panel views or operation that's not specific to a particular view or node?
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on March 11, 2016, 09:43:40 PM
Talking with AvikB made me think these statistics might be of interest.


Page views over the past four weeks:

Skins 8,922

Online Help Landing Page 5,951

FAQ 4,933

Plugins 3,409

Theater Mode 2,304

MusicBee Wiki (Main Page) 2,225

There's a significant drop-off after that, but Devices, the iPod/iPhone Driver, Library Preferences, Latest Update, Importing, and Tagging are all over 1000 views.


Stats from this page: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Insights/popularpages?sort=pv28
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: hiccup on March 11, 2016, 10:13:04 PM
Maybe for the new forum, the integration with your wikia could get a little bit tighter?
I know there is a lot of very good info to be found there, and it is really amazing what you created there almost single-handedly, and yet I always felt it to be a different entity. Some friendly but slightly distant cousin. But this might very well just be me?

Just throwing in a single thought without considering it more deeply, the FAQ could be a very important database of knowledge that could be pointed to for specific questions or comments in the forum.
Yet currently, I myself don't find myself very comfortable with the structure of the wikia, and hardly ever think of referring to it.
I am only guessing I am not the only one, since I do not very often see more experienced members pointing new members to the wikia or it's FAQ for answers or solutions.
The potential and the content certainly is there, considering searching the forum for answers is not really easy or fun to do also.

Any thoughts from others on this?
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on March 11, 2016, 10:37:05 PM
I would love to see all of that happen!

To be fair, redwing and boroda74 have contributed a great deal to the wiki, and a lot of the content I lifted whole from the old documentation by Steven.  The point of a wiki is to be collaborative.  If there's something I could do differently to make it a more welcoming place for others to contribute, please let me know.

I think some of it is just jumping in even if you're not sure what you're doing, though.  :)  Copying other people's work and trial & error are your best friends on a wiki; that's how I still get things done most of the time. 

There are folks on the forum (yourself included) who know more about different parts of MusicBee than I do and could help out a lot.  For instance, here's a page that I bet someone else here could fill in WAY faster than I can.  My knowlegde of how the artwork and artist picture downloading works is pretty minimal compared to some of the forum regulars.  I keep putting it off because I know it's going to take me a while to sort out all the details and options.  http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Album_Art_and_Artist_Photos
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: hiccup on March 11, 2016, 11:14:46 PM
Let's wait until (IF EVER !!!) the new forum is live ;-)

And then, with help from the likes of AvikB, redwing, boroda74, and anybody else who has ideas on this and is willing to contribute, we could try to establish what can and has to be done in a structured manner.

I am thinking about:
- deciding on a clear and agreed on structure and interface of the wiki
- trying to bring the structure of the forum as close together as possible with the structure of the wiki (terminology, hierarchy etc)
- getting the look-and-feel (graphics, colors, interactions, etc.) familiar between both, from a user-experience point of view
- creating some sort of to-do, or 'missing content' overview, so anyone with specific knowledge or interest can easily see if his contribution is needed or helpful

And, this just pops up in my mind now, there is also some forum-like activity going on in the wikia.
Is that something that has additional value? It might be a bit confusing to have two different stages for posting questions and comments?
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on March 11, 2016, 11:59:25 PM
Sounds good!  The missing content overview already exists on the wiki, in some specific forms.

Wanted pages lists all the links shown in red on the wiki. Some of them just need to be turned into redirects, which I'm working on fixing currently (redirects are one of the handiest things about wikis - you can make "analyse volume", "analyze volume", "volume analysis", "volume normalization","replay gain", etc all point to the same page).  But some are pages that genuinely need to be created.  That's here: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WantedPages  [Update: I've finished with Wanted Pages for the time being.]

I'm trying get all the pages that need to be created turned into Under Construction pages.  That's the "under construction" banner that goes at the top of the page, and also adds the page to an "under construction" category: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Under_Construction

There's another category that I'm trying to clean up right now, but is useful if you see that a page needs updates but you don't have time to do them right then: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Out-of-Date

Those categories are listed on the front page of the wiki, under "helping out".

Edit: you might also find this page of interest.  http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Wiki_Contributors_Guidelines
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: AvikB on March 12, 2016, 11:05:15 PM
Maybe for the new forum, the integration with your wikia could get a little bit tighter?

Any thoughts from others on this?
What do you mean by tighter integration with forum? I can integrate wikia in the site help section but i can not use forum crdential for wikia login or anything. :/

Yet currently, I myself don't find myself very comfortable with the structure of the wikia, and hardly ever think of referring to it.
I am only guessing I am not the only one, since I do not very often see more experienced members pointing new members to the wikia or it's FAQ for answers or solutions.
I am also not comfortable with wikia either. My plan for the new site is to integrate wikia in the help section. The help section will have top wikia topics, recent wikia topics and essential or most useful topics listed there as well as faq. The help section will get these from wikia via their api.

The potential and the content certainly is there, considering searching the forum for answers is not really easy or fun to do also.
Forum search is the most horrible thing there is. But i am afraid it is the design issue with SMF nothing i can do.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on March 12, 2016, 11:44:13 PM
My plan for the new site is to integrate wikia in the help section. The help section will have top wikia topics, recent wikia topics and essential or most useful topics listed there as well as faq. The help section will get these from wikia via their api.

Awesome!  Please let me know what I can do to facilitate this.  And I hope in the long run we can familiarize you with the wiki, too.  :)
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: hiccup on March 13, 2016, 09:29:02 AM
This could well be a personal thing, but I don't like the drop down menu's to navigate between the different topics in the wiki.
It's giving me a rather nervous feeling, if you know what I mean, and I think it doesn't present a very clear and comfortable overview on what's what.

Would it be an option to have a menu more like this screenshot?
(Don't take this picture literally. I just grabbed the first image I found that slightly resembled what I am trying to say here)

(http://i.imgur.com/jiht2Cys.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/jiht2Cy.png)
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on March 13, 2016, 09:39:47 AM
Bad news: The menu layout is hardcoded in Wikia.  All non-registered users will get that layout.

Good news: You can change it for yourself by going to your preferences page and finding the "layout" option.  If you change it from Wikia to Monobook, it gives a format more like what you're asking for.

Bad news: There's no menu to speak of in the Monobook format right now.  We would need to figure out how to create it.  If it's really important to you, I will dig around in another wiki that I was working on about the time Wikia introduced their current format (well, the original incarnation of it).  It has a real side menu.

It's here, although you'll need to change your layout in wikia before you'll see the side menu: http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Sryth_Wiki
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: hiccup on March 13, 2016, 09:45:35 AM
If it's something only I dislike, and it's also a lot of work or perhaps even impossible, I will surely adept myself and learn to get comfortable with it.
But I thought It might perhaps result in a clearer start-page for newbees too. Never mind. I might be a bit old-fashioned here.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on March 13, 2016, 09:49:49 AM
If it's something only I dislike, and it's also a lot of work or perhaps even impossible, I will surely adept myself and learn to get comfortable with it.
But I thought It might perhaps result in a clearer start-page for newbees too. Never mind. I might be a bit old-fashioned here.

It's definitely not something only you dislike.  You'll notice an item at the top of the Sryth Wiki front page urging people to use the Monobook format instead of the new one.  :)  But, yeah, I learned to live with the new format because I didn't want to put the effort into maintaining two menus, two skins, etc.  I don't think Wikia maintains the Monobook code anymore, either.   (Unlike some people we know, Wikia is more about their bottom line than making the best UI.)

Edit: For what it's worth, Wikia is still the best of the lot for free wiki sites.  At least it was when I researched alternatives for Sryth Wiki.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on March 16, 2016, 06:19:08 AM
I've finished the major revisions on Navigator and Devices, if anyone cares to look them over.

http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Navigator
http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Devices
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: Steven on March 16, 2016, 01:55:49 PM
looks good to me - its looks very comprehensive for new users
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on March 16, 2016, 02:04:09 PM
looks good to me - its looks very comprehensive for new users

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: AvikB on March 18, 2016, 03:43:36 PM
It's here, although you'll need to change your layout in wikia before you'll see the side menu: http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Sryth_Wiki
It looks really nice, specially the expand section looks like a nice way to present FAQ, I will probably look into wikia's styling guide to see if it can be improved.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on March 18, 2016, 03:59:58 PM
It's here, although you'll need to change your layout in wikia before you'll see the side menu: http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Sryth_Wiki
It looks really nice, specially the expand section looks like a nice way to present FAQ, I will probably look into wikia's styling guide to see if it can be improved.

Are you talking about the expandable table in the Contents section?
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: AvikB on March 18, 2016, 04:14:34 PM
It's here, although you'll need to change your layout in wikia before you'll see the side menu: http://sryth.wikia.com/wiki/Sryth_Wiki
It looks really nice, specially the expand section looks like a nice way to present FAQ, I will probably look into wikia's styling guide to see if it can be improved.

Are you talking about the expandable table in the Contents section?

yup.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on March 18, 2016, 06:15:37 PM
Quote
Are you talking about the expandable table in the Contents section?

yup.

I could definitely recreate that if folks think it would be helpful.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on March 18, 2016, 07:20:17 PM
Here, no point in reinventing the wheel.  I copied it over to my user page for now, replaced the headings and took out the contents.  What categories do we want to include?  Are these good?

http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/User:Psychoadept
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: AvikB on March 19, 2016, 06:42:53 PM
Here, no point in reinventing the wheel.  I copied it over to my user page for now, replaced the headings and took out the contents.  What categories do we want to include?  Are these good?

http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/User:Psychoadept

yeah that looks nice.

Here is some categories i can think for now.

// For General Guides

* Downloads & Getting Started
              * Links for MusicBee stable release(download page link)
              * Beta Release thread (forum link)
              * How to install and uninstall
              * Adding Music Library or import existing

* Layout Customizations/Skins
              * Downloading & Installing Skins
              * Layout Options Basic (MusicBee panels configuration)
              * Tabs Configuration

* MusicBee Settings
              * Making MusicBee default MusicPlayer (Windows explorer integration)
              * Hotkeys
              * Folder Monitoring & Auto Organize Library

* MusicBee Plugins
              * Downloading and Installing
              * Plugin setting panel

* API & Developers
              * API download link
              * Requirement (software like visual studio)
              * Detailed documentation (API Method and explanation)
              * Tips & Tricks
              * Getting Started tutorial


// Advance Guides & Tutorials

* MusicBee Tools
              * Tagging & Missing Artwork
              * CD Ripping & Burning
              * Volume Scaling
              * Format Conversion

* Player Controls
              * Last.fm Integration
              * Auto DJ
              * Equaliser and DSP Plugins

* Player Modes and Views
              * Theater Mode
              * Mini Player Mode
              * Locked Down Mode
              * Compact Mode
              * Visualisers

I think this should be a great start.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on March 20, 2016, 07:58:17 AM
I didn't like the way the two columns were forced to expand at the same time, so I fixed that part.  Made some progress on integrating your menu ideas, but it's not done yet.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: AvikB on March 20, 2016, 03:52:45 PM
I didn't like the way the two columns were forced to expand at the same time, so I fixed that part.  Made some progress on integrating your menu ideas, but it's not done yet.

Nice, it seems breaking them in two columns fix that issue :)
btw, does wikia allow custom css for styling?
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on March 20, 2016, 04:01:16 PM
Nice, it seems breaking them in two columns fix that issue :)
btw, does wikia allow custom css for styling?

They're tables within a table, so instead of giving each one its own cell I made it one cell for each column.

CSS controls just about everything in Wikia.  It's not my strong suit, though, so I'm hoping someone else can help with that aspect.  endeavour1934 did our site-wide CSS a while back, which was a huge improvement.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: AvikB on March 20, 2016, 04:58:43 PM
CSS controls just about everything in Wikia.  It's not my strong suit, though, so I'm hoping someone else can help with that aspect.  endeavour1934 did our site-wide CSS a while back, which was a huge improvement.

I can help you with the css styling. once i am done with the site, i will lend a hand to give it a new look. :)
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on March 20, 2016, 07:01:40 PM
I can help you with the css styling. once i am done with the site, i will lend a hand to give it a new look. :)

That will be most welcome. :)  Just let me know when and I can point you where you need to go.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: redwing on March 21, 2016, 03:24:34 AM
What is this about? Are you gonna change the look of the wiki site endeavour1934 has done?
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on March 21, 2016, 03:44:58 AM
What is this about? Are you gonna change the look of the wiki site endeavour1934 has done?

I wasn't planning on it.  But there are plenty of tables and other things that need better formatting.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: redwing on March 21, 2016, 03:53:03 AM
I see. That would definitely make it more useful.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: endeavour1934 on March 29, 2016, 11:20:07 PM
What is this about? Are you gonna change the look of the wiki site endeavour1934 has done?

I wasn't planning on it.  But there are plenty of tables and other things that need better formatting.
They do need better formatting. Somewhere along the way Wikia changed their CSS files and now the layout is slightly broken.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on April 28, 2016, 08:32:37 AM
After a hiatus to resolve computer problems, I have finally finished the Playlists page: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Playlists
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: Steven on April 28, 2016, 06:08:37 PM
thats really good information for new users
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on April 30, 2016, 05:51:39 PM
Thanks!  Definitely my hope.  :)

I finished up another page that had been almost done for a long time: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Tagging

I'll clean up the pages on the sidebar elements next (I've lumped them into "Navigation Elements" and "Track Elements"), but that shouldn't take too long; most of the content is already there.  And I know some of the preferences and panel configuration options have changed even since I updated them, but I'll wait for 3.0 official release to make further changes on those.

Does anyone have an opinion on my next priority?  Some of the doozies that I've hardly touched yet are:

Album Art & Artist Photos
Auto-Tagging
File Organization
Compact Player/Now Playing node
Music Explorer
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: Pingaware on April 30, 2016, 06:05:19 PM
File Organisation! I know a lot of the really pertinent info is already there on various pages, but I feel it has the most potential stuff to unlock for new users.

Also, totally unrelated, I haven't forgotten that I promised you that guide on Google Music psychoadept!
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on April 30, 2016, 07:24:23 PM
File Organisation! I know a lot of the really pertinent info is already there on various pages, but I feel it has the most potential stuff to unlock for new users.

Also, totally unrelated, I haven't forgotten that I promised you that guide on Google Music psychoadept!

Thanks!  I think I figured out the basics, but I'd still love to see how you do it.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: alec.tron on May 04, 2016, 11:09:41 PM
Thanks!  Definitely my hope.  :)
Noice work, thanks!

My vote for these would be for one of these 3:
Auto-Tagging
File Organization
Music Explorer

Cheers.
c.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on May 09, 2016, 03:15:31 PM
I think I'm done with this one, but if I've overlooked anything feel free to add on: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Library_Navigation_Elements

Ditto this list: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Special_Fields
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on May 11, 2016, 07:01:22 AM
Would folks who have heavily customized the Track Info panel give this one a once-over to make sure I haven't overlooked anything important, please?

http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Track_Specific_Elements
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: Steven on May 11, 2016, 02:06:21 PM
looks good to me.
For the v3 release notes, i want to reference a wiki page for panel arrangement. Would this be the best?
http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Panels_Configuration
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on May 11, 2016, 02:09:59 PM
That should do it.  Or if you want to link to the top of the page, it's http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/The_Anatomy_of_MusicBee.

I'll take a look later, make sure a few more of the linked pages are polished up (tabs, etc)

p.s. thanks for taking the time to look these over.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on May 28, 2016, 11:50:56 PM
Anything else needed on tabs?  I don't use tabs much so I could have overlooked something.

http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Tabs

Added: Status Bar also complete.

http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Status_Bar
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: Steven on May 29, 2016, 08:14:58 AM
it looks good to me
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: redwing on May 29, 2016, 09:06:11 AM
For tabs, you could add the followings:

- Middle mouse click can close a tab.
- The main purpose of pin tab feature is to replace left navigator. That's why left navigator gets auto-hidden for a pinned tab. But you can change its state per tab.
- When a tab is pinned first time, search function gets limited to local node only. But you can change it to global and the setting is remembered.
- Pinned tabs get moved on the left side of tabs bar.
- Inbox and podcast node show counts when pinned with icon only.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on May 29, 2016, 09:28:19 AM
Thanks, that's helpful stuff.  When you say "search function gets limited... but the setting is remembered" does that mean that other tabs will remember it, or just that tab?  Do you mean it's remembered if the tab is pinned, unpinned, and pinned again?

Also, if you do a global seach from a pinned tab, does it open in a new tab?
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: redwing on May 29, 2016, 09:36:37 AM
Only that tab. And if you pin it again, local search again. Yes, global search opens in a new tab unlike local search.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on May 29, 2016, 09:41:40 AM
Got it.  I think I worked all that in.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: redwing on May 29, 2016, 10:22:22 AM
Looks good except this part:

"The Navigator is hidden for pinned tabs (on the assumption that you're also using the Navigation Lock option and don't want to navigate away from the tab's contents)"

That's correct but can you add this part too?: "The Navigator gets hidden for pinned tabs because you can easily navigate to any of your favorite nodes by switching between pinned tabs instead of using Left Navigator"

Also, there's no mention of close tab buttons that show up on boxed/mixed text mode.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on May 29, 2016, 04:56:36 PM
I changed the wording to point out that other tabs would be used for navigation, and added a close tabs section that includes the button.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: redwing on May 30, 2016, 01:20:43 AM
Looks good. Thanks!
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on May 30, 2016, 05:39:09 AM
File Organisation! I know a lot of the really pertinent info is already there on various pages, but I feel it has the most potential stuff to unlock for new users.

Here's a first pass at File Organization: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/File_Organization

I'm working on Templates next to go along with it.

Edit: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Templates

Everyone please feel free to contribute to the "Tips" section.  I can always fix formatting if it doesn't come out quite right.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: redwing on June 04, 2016, 02:17:09 PM
@psychoadept;

Just noticed you removed descriptions about latest update on the wiki, just directing it to the forum thread. Consider restoring it as it would be useful for new users to understand the differences between official release and latest patch.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on June 04, 2016, 05:26:38 PM
Are you referring to the page itself or the menu item?

Nevermind, I made the change.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on June 06, 2016, 05:37:53 AM
My vote for these would be for one of these 3:
Auto-Tagging
File Organization
Music Explorer

http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Auto-Tagging
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: redwing on June 06, 2016, 06:04:16 AM
Are you referring to the page itself or the menu item?

Nevermind, I made the change.

The menu itself still directs to the forum thread. Why not direct it to the wiki page?
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on June 06, 2016, 06:08:48 AM
The menu itself still directs to the forum thread. Why not direct it to the wiki page?

No, I changed that.  Just checked.  Try forcing a refresh; sometimes Wikia caches stuff too long.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: redwing on June 06, 2016, 06:15:09 AM
The only way I can work it out is visit latest update page by search, then the menu directs to that page. If I restart browser (whether browser cache cleared or not), again to the forum thread.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on June 06, 2016, 06:18:03 AM
That's gotta be a Wikia bug, then.  If it hasn't cleared up in a day or two, let me know and I'll go make a report.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: redwing on June 06, 2016, 06:21:26 AM
OK
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: redwing on June 08, 2016, 04:55:59 AM
The menu link is working fine now. Must have been a wikia cache issue as you said.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on June 12, 2016, 05:02:58 AM
Tracks View should be up to date now: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Tracks_View.  I also made some tweaks to the umbrella Main Panels View page, and I'm working on Album and Tracks now.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: kenedy on July 19, 2016, 08:16:08 AM
Great work!
well done my dear brother!
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: voodoorabbit87 on August 08, 2016, 06:30:40 PM
New page for manually editing the root storage path for SD cards on MTP devices.

http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Manually_change_the_Root_Storage_Path_for_external_SD_card

from thread http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=18082.msg114340#msg114340
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on August 08, 2016, 06:46:11 PM
New page for manually editing the root storage path for SD cards on MTP devices.

http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Manually_change_the_Root_Storage_Path_for_external_SD_card

from thread http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=18082.msg114340#msg114340

Awesome, thanks!  I added it to the guides and devices categories.

If you have any screenshots, that always helps.  If you're not sure how to add them, I'm happy to help.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: voodoorabbit87 on August 08, 2016, 07:06:45 PM
Updated, any way to put my username as author? added page before i signed up, no worries if not possible.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on August 08, 2016, 08:51:17 PM
Wiki pages don't really have a set author, but you can see in many places we've credited who wrote the guide.  You're welcome to do that.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on October 26, 2016, 07:50:02 AM
I'm pretty sure I borked a few links in the course of cleaning up the deprecated #NewWindowLink syntax, but of course I did it in a way that makes them nearly impossible to track down by automated means.  If you find any external links that don't look right, please let me know and I'll fix them ASAP.

I'm trying to get back in the swing of wiki editing after having been sidelined by life for a while.  Finishing the pages for different views, and then I'll go back and look at what the requests were again.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: redwing on October 25, 2017, 07:44:35 PM
If I access "File Organization" section on the wiki from a mobile device, it abruptly ends at the start of manual organization part. And the table of contents shows manual organization only. Can you reproduce this?
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on October 25, 2017, 08:07:24 PM
That's typical of wikia.  Their mobile implementation is pretty poor.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: redwing on October 25, 2017, 08:15:31 PM
OK. I thought something's wrong with that page.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on October 25, 2017, 09:48:49 PM
I wish it were something I could just fix!
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: redwing on November 07, 2018, 05:47:56 AM
What happened to this table? It doesn't look right:
https://musicbee.fandom.com/wiki/Skinning_Elements
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on November 07, 2018, 05:58:53 AM
The short answer seems to be somebody injected a bunch of totally unhelpful HTML. Should be fixed now.
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: redwing on November 07, 2018, 06:01:17 AM
Yes, looking fine now. Thanks!
Title: Re: Wiki pages
Post by: psychoadept on July 11, 2019, 11:25:18 PM
It's come up enough lately that a I added a FAQ for the artwork question: https://musicbee.fandom.com/wiki/FAQ#When_I_add_artwork_to_an_album.2C_the_artwork_shows_up_on_ALL_my_albums._Help.21