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MusicBee & Add-Ons => Customizations => TheaterMode => Topic started by: Eeyore on December 04, 2012, 05:54:34 AM

Title: Default Tweak
Post by: Eeyore on December 04, 2012, 05:54:34 AM
Replaced a couple lines from Default with some taken from endeavour1934's XBOX Music Style.

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Title: Re: Default Tweak
Post by: Bee-liever on December 04, 2012, 06:15:13 AM
Good job on the editing, Eeyore.

Nice fusion  8)

PS Welcome to the forum  :)
Title: Re: Default Tweak
Post by: Eeyore on December 04, 2012, 06:28:44 AM
Thanks, thanks, and thank you very much  ;)

Just discovered MusicBee yesterday and I'm loving it.
Title: Re: Default Tweak
Post by: ihavnoclue on February 05, 2013, 05:51:31 AM
I just want to say that this is exactly what I was looking for! Thank you!
I was about to try to make it myself, but not knowing any XML that would have taken me a long time.
I couldn't find any good ones with all of the features you have showing.
Title: Re: Default Tweak
Post by: Eeyore on February 05, 2013, 05:59:28 AM
Awesome, glad someone else will be enjoying it as well! Just let me know if there's any minor things you'd like updated or changed on it. 
Title: Re: Default Tweak
Post by: ihavnoclue on May 09, 2013, 05:19:52 AM
This has actually been bugging me for a while and I thought it was just MusicBee, but now I'm not sure.
The wave form lags a lot when I play music. It'll behave fine then pause then keep going, it looks really weird. It also eats massive amounts of CPU. But if I use the compact player the wave form in that displays without any issues.
Any idea how to fix this?
Title: Re: Default Tweak
Post by: Eeyore on May 10, 2013, 07:16:29 PM
I have noticed that the visualizer adds about 10% CPU usage in general for me. I've tried tweaking at the code but it doesn't really seem to make a difference. I don't know how much you care about having it in there, but you can just delete the Spectrum Visualizer from the code if you want to continue using that view without the issues of it.
Title: Re: Default Tweak
Post by: psychoadept on March 19, 2016, 09:05:35 PM
I've been using this theater mode at a dance night I host once a week, MB open on my laptop and the theater mode projected onto a plasma TV.  The trouble is that the plasma tv has overscan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overscan), which cuts off about 10% of the screen around the edges, inluding most of the visualiser.

I've tried pretty much all the hardware and software solutions available, so I think the only fix is going to be adjusting the theater mode itself. Can someone please advise me if there's a way to adjust the whole thing to be smaller, more in the middle of the screen?  I'm sure I could move individual pieces, but I'm hoping to avoid that much work.  :)
Title: Re: Default Tweak
Post by: hiccup on March 20, 2016, 08:25:00 AM
I would think this should be solvable on the part of the TV or the laptop themselves.
Assuming that you already searched all possible settings on the Plasma TV to disable this overscan, I am guessing it is a driver issue on your laptop.
I am aware of especially some older Ati video drivers being quite persistent in setting overscan as a default when it detects a television or when some 'video' mode is set.
If you can't find a setting that is specifically called 'overscan', you mighty try to disable some suspect 'auto' settings.
Title: Re: Default Tweak
Post by: psychoadept on March 20, 2016, 08:56:42 AM
I would think this should be solvable on the part of the TV or the laptop themselves.
Assuming that you already searched all possible settings on the Plasma TV to disable this overscan, I am guessing it is a driver issue on your laptop.
I am aware of especially some older Ati video drivers being quite persistent in setting overscan as a default when it detects a television or when some 'video' mode is set.
If you can't find a setting that is specifically called 'overscan', you mighty try to disable some suspect 'auto' settings.

Trust me, I've tried and tried.  The tv doesn't have a setting, and I found a setting for my graphics card but when I tried to apply it, it refused to save.  So I'm looking for a kludge.
Title: Re: Default Tweak
Post by: hiccup on March 20, 2016, 09:16:48 AM
Trust me, I've tried and tried.  The tv doesn't have a setting, and I found a setting for my graphics card but when I tried to apply it, it refused to save.  So I'm looking for a kludge.

That's frustrating, so it is most probably an issue with your graphics driver indeed. Also no solution to be found on the fora of the graphics card manufacturer? You can't be alone in this suffering ;-)
I have no knowledge how to help you in the way you would like to solve it now, but just some other thoughts:
Have you tried different cabling (hdmi vs. vga for example).
Couldn't you just have the whole MusicBee (and theater mode) panel resized a bit smaller to accommodate for the cropping?
Title: Re: Default Tweak
Post by: Bee-liever on March 20, 2016, 09:49:08 AM
The trouble is that the plasma tv has overscan...
What brand TV?
I know LG you have to change to "Just Scan" in the Aspect Ratio settings, and Samsung it's "Screen Fit" in the Screen Adjustment settings.
The only other brand I've dealt with is Sony, but I can't remember the exact settings for that one.  I recall it wasn't as easy as the other ones, and that you had to change 2 settings to get it to work.
Title: Re: Default Tweak
Post by: psychoadept on March 20, 2016, 03:35:11 PM
It's a pioneer, but please believe me when I say I have tried every setting multiple times, and I have googled the model number, etc to.death.  it's an older tv, and a brand new computer.  Any way, if there's not a quick fix I'll look at getting it all adjusted...
Title: Re: Default Tweak
Post by: Bee-liever on March 20, 2016, 07:54:21 PM
Maybe Sizer (http://www.brianapps.net/sizer/ (http://www.brianapps.net/sizer/)) would be suitable

EDIT:
and Nvidia cards have settings to adjust for overscan
Title: Re: Default Tweak
Post by: psychoadept on March 20, 2016, 08:19:21 PM
I'll give that a try, thanks.  It was my Intel card that I tried to adjust with.  The reason it gave for not being able to save the settings was "invalid resolution" or something like that, whether i set it to be reduced from or to the native resolution.
Title: Re: Default Tweak
Post by: Bee-liever on March 20, 2016, 08:50:42 PM
With Intel graphics I think you have to add the resolution as a custom size before it can be saved.
Also, adjusting the scaling can correct overscan in some of the newer Intel cards
Title: Re: Default Tweak
Post by: hiccup on March 20, 2016, 09:00:14 PM
Assuming the plasma tv is full-hd 1920x1080 (or is it hd-ready 1280x720?), I find it weird that you would have to work with 'custom resolutions'.
Maybe there is a discrepancy in refresh rate? 50Hz vs. 60Hz.? (well hidden in Intel drivers I believe)

But it seems you are still a bit in the dark if it is the tv or the laptop doing the overscan?
Perhaps connect the laptop to another tv, or another laptop to the tv to try and clear that up first?
Title: Re: Default Tweak
Post by: Bee-liever on March 20, 2016, 09:45:55 PM
@ hiccup
It's always the TV.
As the plasma is an older model with no adjustment for overscan, you have to play around with the resolutions to shrink it a bit to get all of the image on the screen.
Hence the need for a custom resolution.
Title: Re: Default Tweak
Post by: psychoadept on March 20, 2016, 09:48:24 PM
Lol, this discussion may need to be moved to the "Beyond MusicBee" section.

Not sure, but when I set the "custom resolution" to 1920x1080, it would save.  It was only when I messed with the overscan adjustment that it wouldn't save.

I guess I can't say for sure if it's the TV or the graphics card, but the TV seems more likely.  I don't really have a good way to test with others right now, and frankly at this point adjusting the theater mode seems like less of a headache.  There is really definitely no overscan setting on the TV; I have looked everywhere suggested online for one and tried every single setting by hand just in case.
Title: Re: Default Tweak
Post by: hiccup on March 20, 2016, 09:57:00 PM
@ hiccup
It's always the TV.
As the plasma is an older model with no adjustment for overscan, you have to play around with the resolutions to shrink it a bit to get all of the image on the screen.
Hence the need for a custom resolution.

No it is not always the TV.
I myself had an HTPC with a slightly older graphics card. On my full-hd plasma, with a clean install of videodrivers, the Ati graphics drivers by default activated overscan when it thought it was connected to a TV. And that setting was kind of hidden too. It took me a while also to find that out.

Any plasma/lcd tv has a fixed resolution display, and refresh rates it can accommodate.
So if you can find a table with those resolutions and refresh rates, certainly with contemporary graphics card it should be possible to set exactly that resolution an refresh rate.

Still no guarantees, since technology will always be a b****, but a good stating point would be to get the facts on these resolutions and refresh rates.
Title: Re: Default Tweak
Post by: psychoadept on March 20, 2016, 10:11:48 PM
I appreciate the suggestions and technical know-how, but guys. :) I've already spent some hours on this, and adjusting the theater mode is a solution I can implement right now.  There's nothing else I use that TV for; it's at the venue we use for our dance night.  So I'm going to go that route for now, and I'll keep searching for a technical solution as I have time.
Title: Re: Default Tweak
Post by: Bee-liever on March 20, 2016, 10:25:11 PM
I've already spent some hours on this, and adjusting the theater mode is a solution I can implement right now.  There's nothing else I use that TV for; it's at the venue we use for our dance night.  So I'm going to go that route for now, and I'll keep searching for a technical solution as I have time.

I thought you could get it to work with the adjustments on the Intel card but couldn't get those changes to save.  The custom settings should be the technical solution :)
Title: Re: Default Tweak
Post by: psychoadept on March 20, 2016, 10:27:22 PM
I thought you could get it to work with the adjustments on the Intel card but couldn't get those changes to save.  The custom settings should be the technical solution :)

No, I tried entering the adjustments but it wouldn't apply them because they were "invalid".  I'll look into that more (and the NVIDIA card) but right now.
Title: Re: Default Tweak
Post by: psychoadept on April 16, 2016, 04:22:30 AM
For the record, I got this about done but lost my work when I reinstalled windows the next day (just poor memory on my part).

Anyway, I realized there was a much simpler solution.  Now I'm using the compact player, sized to the visible part of the screen.
Title: Re: Default Tweak
Post by: Uptown on June 25, 2016, 04:03:09 AM
A million thanks! Made an account just to thank you, NOW MB is officially better than any other music player because of you! :)