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Support => Questions => Topic started by: Steven on November 16, 2012, 08:08:49 PM
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it looks like last.fm are finally going to disable the old radio API. MB already supports the new radio API, but that API only works for last.fm subscribers. So if you dont have a last.fm subscription you will no longer be able to use the auto-dj feature where MB can randomly select tracks from last.fm and include them in the dj mix or play last.fm radio stations in MB.
"In March 2009 we released a fully documented and supported radio API. At the time we said that we were going to turn off the old, undocumented and unsupported API within "weeks". For a number of reasons weeks turned into years but we have now seen the vast majority of our radio traffic move off the old API onto the new one. Due to the complexity and costs of supporting multiple versions of the API we have decided that the costs of maintaining the old API now outweigh the benefits of keeping it around for a minority of users and therefore we plan to turn if off on December 1 2012. This means that any old applications or libraries still using the previous API will no longer be able to stream radio from Last.fm unless they are updated to use the new API."
http://www.last.fm/group/Last.fm+Web+Services/forum/21604/_/2193354
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I'm not even sure how well they will work for subscribers: pause will be out according to Last.fm and they've recently added a limit to the number of skips to six per hour. I hope for all MusicBee-users/Last.fm-subscribers that the "Maintain x number of upcoming tracks" will still work.
For me, well... I better get started working on my project HiveMusic ;D
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this is a real shame but what can you do...
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this is a real shame but what can you do...
it should continue to work for last.fm subscribers
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Steven, are you referring to this part of the Radio feature?
I just tried it, and it works absolutely fine, tracks stream fine for me! I am not a Last.fm subscriber though, just lucky perhaps?
EDIT: Slight overlook, removed image
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... therefore we plan to turn if off on December 1 2012. This means that any old applications or libraries still using the previous API will no longer be able to stream radio from Last.fm unless they are updated to use the new API."
http://www.last.fm/group/Last.fm+Web+Services/forum/21604/_/2193354
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What about replacing Last.fm with some other similar (free) system? Anyone knows any?
Just an idea.
Regards
Marco
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if you get the latest beta, ex.fm has been added
http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V2_1/MusicBee_Exe_Patched.zip
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Would there be any way to let the Auto DJ stream "similar" tracks from ex.fm in the way you can with last.fm? Maybe by using last.fm similarity data to filter out which ex.fm tracks are played?
I'm not familiar with how the two services work or if it would even be possible to make data from them interact in this way though.
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This is bad news for me. I can only play 50 songs through last fm. How good is the radio feature of ex fm?
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RE http://blog.ashfame.com/2011/03/last-fm-free-internet-radio-hack/
Correct me if I'm wrong but there seems to be a suggestion that if you are from UK, US or Germany then you don't come under this and can still stream unlimited without being a subscriber?
Although I am from the UK and the email I received from last.fm didn't seem to back that up? I'm a little confused :/
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Correct me if I'm wrong but there seems to be a suggestion that if you are from UK, US or Germany then you don't come under this and can still stream unlimited without being a subscriber?
From the Last.fm message: "Please note that only subscribers are allowed to stream radio via the API" and that goes for the new API version that isn't implemented into MusicBee.
I'm a bit hesitant about how the new version works since Last.fm has recently introduced a limit on the amount of skips (even for subscribers). Right now you can keep a list of upcoming tracks while playing an artist-station, delete all the tracks that come before the artist that you actually want to hear and you basically have on-demand streaming (something the industry really doesn't want happening on Last.fm).
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http://blog.last.fm/2011/02/07/lastfm-radio-becomes-a-premium-feature-on-mobile-and-home-entertainment-devices
musicbee already supports the new radio api for subscribers
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How does a subscription work for subscribers outside of the US/UK/Germany? I'm in Canada, will a last.fm subscription allow me to use Musicbee the same way it works now? (Radio stations and AutoDJ tracks from last.fm)
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yes i believe that to be the case, but suggest when december comes you just do a one month subscription to start with
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I Definitely prefer the flexibility thus far with ex.fm. Really liking it as a substitute. I shut down player, come back and it resumes where I left off and i can even repeat songs etc etc. Really liking this.
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How does a subscription work for subscribers outside of the US/UK/Germany? I'm in Canada, will a last.fm subscription allow me to use Musicbee the same way it works now? (Radio stations and AutoDJ tracks from last.fm)
Last.fm announced their new radio policy yesterday: subscribers outside of the US, the UK and Germany will no longer have access to the radio: http://www.last.fm/announcements/radio2013
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thanks Alainn - thats quite disappointing news
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Here's the main points of the above statement in the nutshell for each geographic location:
Radio changes to Last.fm from Tuesday 15 January 2013
Last.fm is making some important changes to the radio services we offer around the world. We have considered these changes carefully, in response to various factors that affect our business differently in parts of the world.
The key changes are as follows:
In the United States, United Kingdom and Germany, radio in the desktop client is now a subscription feature, as it is elsewhere.
In Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland and Brazil, there will be no significant changes to our service.
Unfortunately, in all other countries, we are no longer offering a radio service after this date.
Hopefully this will change in the future as the system was really good. But thanks to Steven, new alternatives are allready added.
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How does a subscription work for subscribers outside of the US/UK/Germany? I'm in Canada, will a last.fm subscription allow me to use Musicbee the same way it works now? (Radio stations and AutoDJ tracks from last.fm)
I'm from Canada too. I just use hotspot shield as a vpn client to change my ip address to a US one. You can still stream from last.fm on a browser. Unfortunately, it won't work with musicbee though. <http://www.last.fm/listen/user/yourusername/recommended>
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please do a google search of the forum and the last.fm web site - last.fm no longer supports radio stations at all to third parties