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Title: Deleting Files From Library - Rather Than 'Removing' - HELP!!
Post by: Screenthemes on January 24, 2021, 03:21:11 PM
Hi,

Hope you are all well and staying safe. New to MusicBee and loving the player. Have a massive music collection over six separate hard drives.

Recently moved from the iTunes player , and using a DELL Otiplex 745 PC for strictly music playing through a series Cambridge Separates.

I am trying to remove files containing either duplicates or simply unwanted music MP3 files.

When I right click on the file/image of the album I get the option to 'Remove' rather than 'Delete'.

I remove then when I reboot the Bee Play up I find that the files have returned.

Can anyone help please?

Many thanks

Screenthemes

Title: Re: Deleting Files From Library - Rather Than 'Removing' - HELP!!
Post by: frankz on January 24, 2021, 04:07:53 PM
Are you monitoring the folder they're in or otherwise re-importing them?
Title: Re: Deleting Files From Library - Rather Than 'Removing' - HELP!!
Post by: Screenthemes on January 24, 2021, 06:15:48 PM
Hi there,

Unsure what you mean when you say "Am I monitoring"? The same MP3 files appear to be re-imported when I reopen MusicBee after closing down.

All very confusing. Hoping you can help please.

Many thanks
Title: Re: Deleting Files From Library - Rather Than 'Removing' - HELP!!
Post by: frankz on January 24, 2021, 06:18:47 PM
It's not confusing at all - under Edit->Edit Preferences->Library did you set yourself up to monitor folders and, if so, are these files still in those folders? 

If you did and they are, MB is doing exactly what you told it to do.
Title: Re: Deleting Files From Library - Rather Than 'Removing' - HELP!!
Post by: Screenthemes on January 24, 2021, 06:41:15 PM
Hi,

Thanks for helping me out with this.

Sadly I cannot find the  element in the library to monitor folders.

I have followed your instructions - Edit->Edit Preferences->Library, but cannot find the check box to ensure that MusicBee does not re-import the files I have
previously deleted.

Finding the player great to use, just trying to get use to the finer points. Sorry to be a pain.

Thanks
Title: Re: Deleting Files From Library - Rather Than 'Removing' - HELP!!
Post by: frankz on January 24, 2021, 07:17:06 PM
I'm not sure why you're ignoring the questions that I'm asking you.

Is there anything here or not?

(https://i.imgur.com/MxjFS3i.jpg)

If so and the files you want to not have in your library are in the folder(s) there, then you need to either move the files, stop monitoring the folder(s) or otherwise account for the files with the available options because otherwise they're going to keep getting imported to your library.
Title: Re: Deleting Files From Library - Rather Than 'Removing' - HELP!!
Post by: Screenthemes on January 24, 2021, 07:27:37 PM
Hi, Sorry, I was away from my PC for a while and not ignoring the questions. I can see everything that you have photo-shopped above.

As I am looking;

Scan on start-up box is ticked/filled in. 
Add to library  box is ticked/filled in. 

What I am not understanding is;
 How I can prevent the files that re-appear after deletion and which are reinstated when I re-open MusicBee
And actually what I need to do to 'Monitor the folder' - I'm struggling to find where I access that element
to prevent the deleted files being re-imported.
Thank you.

Title: Re: Deleting Files From Library - Rather Than 'Removing' - HELP!!
Post by: frankz on January 24, 2021, 07:31:04 PM
ARE

THERE

ANY

FOLDERS

LISTED

THERE?
Title: Re: Deleting Files From Library - Rather Than 'Removing' - HELP!!
Post by: Screenthemes on January 24, 2021, 07:38:06 PM
NO.

NOTHING

ZILCH

RIEN


NICHTS


没有

In short, FUCK ALL FILES ON SHOW ;-)
Title: Re: Deleting Files From Library - Rather Than 'Removing' - HELP!!
Post by: Screenthemes on January 24, 2021, 07:46:34 PM
I understand there are the exclude and Choose Folders check boxes which in-turn lead to my internal hard drives and where my music
is kept (there are seven separate hard drives and a massive amount of music) I know I'm not uber-computer savvy, and apologise
for not getting exactly your instructions, however, all I'm wanting to do is stop the music files from re-importing each time MusicBee
opens.

Finding the many files I have already deleted is going to be a real long job, searching through seven separate hard drives, locating the individual
files, especially when I have deleted the bloody things from my library more than half a dozen times. Excuse my frustration.
I'm very grateful for your help, even if I am being thick!

Title: Re: Deleting Files From Library - Rather Than 'Removing' - HELP!!
Post by: Screenthemes on January 24, 2021, 07:51:12 PM
Right, have ticked the 'Monitored' check boxes for all the separate hard drives. Hoping this no means when I reopen MusicBee the deleted files will no
longer re-import.

As we say here in England ... "In for a penny, in for a pound"

In other words, try anything and hope it works.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Deleting Files From Library - Rather Than 'Removing' - HELP!!
Post by: frankz on January 24, 2021, 07:54:07 PM
Can you please post a screenshot of this screen on your system?  Thank you.
Title: Re: Deleting Files From Library - Rather Than 'Removing' - HELP!!
Post by: Screenthemes on January 24, 2021, 08:01:42 PM
And ticking the check boxes didn't work in the monitored section. Reopened MusicBee and had a message saying a number of files would be removed.

Non of which were duplicates or the files I wanted removing and not to re-import. "ARGHHHH!!!"

Time to switch off the PC and pour a cold beer. Either that or I kick the PC monitor screen in.

Have a good evening and thanks for your help.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Deleting Files From Library - Rather Than 'Removing' - HELP!!
Post by: psychoadept on January 24, 2021, 10:24:01 PM
In your initial post you mentioned that the option was remove rather than delete. Were you viewing the files in a playlist?

In any case, a short cut for deleting files from the disk, regardless of where you're viewing them or what other settings are on, is to use Shift + Delete. That will send them to the recycle bin, except maybe if they're on an external drive/server.
Title: Re: Deleting Files From Library - Rather Than 'Removing' - HELP!!
Post by: Screenthemes on January 25, 2021, 11:39:11 AM
Good morning Psychoadept,

Thanks for the kind reply. You are spot on, I did say that. I'm getting 'remove rather than 'delete' in the commands/choice
when I try and delete the album/file and when I boot up my music PC, bring up the player the files have returned and require deleting
again. I have a big music collect, one WD Book and four, soon to five separate Toshiba hard-drives - mostly film music, but much
more stuff too. Its a lot of files to reapply the artwork for and remove either duplicate MP3 files or tracks.
(The other great thing about the player is that it immediately excepts FLAC files and doesn't need them to be brought
down to MP/ACC  like iTunes does - that's a seriously good result!)

I'm really pleased with the MusicBee player. Its excellent. Yes, its taking a while to get use to, and I'm not PC savvy as some are, so some of the finer
points of the players great capabilities are passing me by at the moment.

(I'm struggling to - A). Find a way to turn of the delete notification that appears each time I successful remove something, and

B). I seem to have a problem with some files when applying artwork and a notification that says Retry or Cancel appears and constantly flashes up until
it has read each track in the file that refuses the artwork. That ones a real mystery to me, and I've no idea how to deal with that one yet.

Thanks again for your help. It's greatly appreciated.

Cheers

Title: Re: Deleting Files From Library - Rather Than 'Removing' - HELP!!
Post by: Screenthemes on January 25, 2021, 04:54:02 PM
Have noted since playing around with the software and not understanding what the hell I am doing that every
single track in the 'Playlists' section has a Black exclamation mark next to the track. I have no idea how it got there.
No idea how to remove it. Can you help please?

Also, I've note that when booting up MusicBee, the player takes an age to load up all the artwork and be 'play-ready'.

Perhaps taking two-three minutes to load all artwork.

I currently have 934 files uploaded, some 12.2 GB.

Is this a normal/average time to be waiting?

Thanks
Title: Re: Deleting Files From Library - Rather Than 'Removing' - HELP!!
Post by: frankz on January 25, 2021, 04:57:46 PM
Why do you refuse to answer the questions of the people who are trying to help you?

Were you viewing the files in a playlist?
Title: Re: Deleting Files From Library - Rather Than 'Removing' - HELP!!
Post by: Screenthemes on January 25, 2021, 05:00:01 PM
My friend, I am simply trying to understand how to use the software. I'm not being rude or difficult.
I'm not ignoring any advice and welcome anything that will help me use MusicBee at its very best.

At the moment, I am totally confused as to what I am doing wrong.

Again, I am very grateful to you for all your kind assistance.

Best wishes
Title: Re: Deleting Files From Library - Rather Than 'Removing' - HELP!!
Post by: frankz on January 25, 2021, 05:23:19 PM
OK.

But were you viewing the files in a playlist?
Title: Re: Deleting Files From Library - Rather Than 'Removing' - HELP!!
Post by: Screenthemes on January 25, 2021, 05:26:36 PM
Yes, I was.
Title: Re: Deleting Files From Library - Rather Than 'Removing' - HELP!!
Post by: frankz on January 25, 2021, 05:58:34 PM
When you delete songs from within a playlist, it only removes them from the playlist.  That's why you were prompted to "Remove" rather than "Delete" (good catch, psychoadept).

You need to delete files from within your music library (the Music tab) to delete them from your computer all together.
Title: Re: Deleting Files From Library - Rather Than 'Removing' - HELP!!
Post by: Screenthemes on January 25, 2021, 06:05:35 PM
Thank you. Got it. I'll plough through the files in the separate hard drives and delete.

I'm noting that since reopening MusicBee many of the files hve deleted and have not re-appeared.

Whilst I have you online, can I ask;

Have noted since playing around with the software and not understanding what the hell I am doing that every
single track in the 'Playlists' section has a Black exclamation mark next to the track. I have no idea how it got there.
No idea how to remove it. Can you help please?

I've note that when booting up MusicBee, the player takes an age to load up all the artwork and be 'play-ready'.

Perhaps taking two-three minutes to load all artwork.

I currently have 934 files uploaded, some 12.2 GB.

Is this a normal/average time to be waiting?

Thanks
Title: Re: Deleting Files From Library - Rather Than 'Removing' - HELP!!
Post by: frankz on January 25, 2021, 06:48:19 PM
If you hover over the exclamation mark it'll tell you what the problem is with the track.

With that few files it should take no time to load anything. That's not many. Maybe something to do with all the problem tracks you say you have.

You should spend time reading the wiki linked in each mod's signature and get to know the program before continuing.
Title: Re: Deleting Files From Library - Rather Than 'Removing' - HELP!!
Post by: Screenthemes on January 25, 2021, 07:11:56 PM
Thank you for your kind assistance, and the condescending, blunt tone. Are you by chance, Welsh?
If so, that would explain a great deal.
I have, as instructed, hovered over the exclamation marks in the 'Playlist' section (!)
According to MusicBee every bastard track is missing.
Brilliant.
Have a good evening (or day)

Title: Re: Deleting Files From Library - Rather Than 'Removing' - HELP!!
Post by: Screenthemes on January 25, 2021, 07:29:32 PM
I also incorrectly informed you of the file amount on my MusicBee player;

In total I have uploaded 198, 715 files, some 1787.6GB.

I have;

(1) Tick "on startup check for updated or missing files" option under Preferences> Library
(2) Add your music files folder to the monitored folders setting under Preferences> Library
(3) Run Tools> Advanced> Rescan All Files command to update database

This has got rid of the exclamation marks and left me with a great deal of Reconstruction work, but slowly
but surely, I think I'm getting there.

I'm very impressed with MusicBee, it's far superior to iTunes in every way, I just need to get a handle on
the software.