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Title: [1.3] Using "split" in the artist splitter doesn't split the artists anymore
Post by: Fivda on January 21, 2021, 06:18:30 PM
Clicking on "Split" does not seperate all artists with linebreak when there's a comma anymore.
(https://i.imgur.com/6lKoD4a.png)
Title: Re: [1.3] Using "split" in the artist splitter doesn't split the artists anymore
Post by: phred on January 21, 2021, 07:36:40 PM
Try using a semi-colon
Title: Re: [1.3] Using "split" in the artist splitter doesn't split the artists anymore
Post by: Fivda on January 21, 2021, 07:40:17 PM
Try using a semi-colon
I see, but i don't really see why standard commas shouldn't be able split artists anymore... I don't really see myself replacing multiple artist names with ;'s instead of commas, they're far from aesthetic, especially when the general artist/composer field is meant as a display title when you're using said splitter
Title: Re: [1.3] Using "split" in the artist splitter doesn't split the artists anymore
Post by: Steven on January 21, 2021, 08:36:24 PM
, is not supported for splitting
Title: Re: [1.3] Using "split" in the artist splitter doesn't split the artists anymore
Post by: Fivda on January 21, 2021, 08:37:58 PM
, is not supported for splitting
I mean, not anymore at least, because it used to be and I found it pretty useful. I imagine there's no way to let it behave that way?
Title: Re: [1.3] Using "split" in the artist splitter doesn't split the artists anymore
Post by: phred on January 21, 2021, 09:21:32 PM
I mean, not anymore at least, because it used to be and I found it pretty useful. I imagine there's no way to let it behave that way?
I believe you are mistaken. I've been using MB for more than ten years and the semi-colon has always been the splitter. And, if Steven says the comma isn't supported for splitting, then it isn't. Steven is MB's developer.
Title: Re: [1.3] Using "split" in the artist splitter doesn't split the artists anymore
Post by: Steven on January 21, 2021, 09:27:57 PM
its a simple change to include it
https://getmusicbee.com/patches/MusicBee34_Patched.zip
unzip and replace the existing musicbee application files
Title: Re: [1.3] Using "split" in the artist splitter doesn't split the artists anymore
Post by: phred on January 21, 2021, 09:32:11 PM
its a simple change to include it
Except now it is  :-)
Title: Re: [1.3] Using "split" in the artist splitter doesn't split the artists anymore
Post by: Fivda on January 22, 2021, 11:10:17 AM
I mean, not anymore at least, because it used to be and I found it pretty useful. I imagine there's no way to let it behave that way?
I believe you are mistaken. I've been using MB for more than ten years and the semi-colon has always been the splitter. And, if Steven says the comma isn't supported for splitting, then it isn't. Steven is MB's developer.
You using MB for more than ten years doens't invalidate the way i've been doing things for months. Don't believe me if you don't want to but I promise you that it used to work and I've never modified my folders, preferences or anything to make the standard comma split things. It just worked. If it wasn't supposed to... 🤷‍♀️

 
its a simple change to include it
https://getmusicbee.com/patches/MusicBee34_Patched.zip
unzip and replace the existing musicbee application files
Works, thanks!
Title: Re: [1.3] Using "split" in the artist splitter doesn't split the artists anymore
Post by: frankz on January 22, 2021, 12:52:22 PM
...but there are artists with commas in their names.  I believe this is why it was not supported in the first place.


Blood, Sweat & Tears
Earth, Wind & Fire
Peter, Paul and Mary
etc.

Will the artist list now be
Blood
Earth
Sweat & Tears
Paul and Mary
Peter
Wind & Fire
Title: Re: [1.3] Using "split" in the artist splitter doesn't split the artists anymore
Post by: Fivda on January 22, 2021, 12:54:58 PM
...but there are artists with commas in their names.  I believe this is why it was not supported in the first place (in any program).


Blood, Sweat & Tears
Earth, Wind & Fire
Peter, Paul and Mary
etc.

Will the artist list now be
Blood
Earth
Sweat & Tears
Paul and Mary
Peter
Wind & Fire
I understand why this was changed. But it's such a rare occurence, and especially within my interests, this literally never happens.
The split artist name feature is usually something I use when I have a long list of composers and wish to simply seperate them in the splitter. No reason for that to happen with group names with the way i do things
It's all solved anyway so no problem
Title: Re: [1.3] Using "split" in the artist splitter doesn't split the artists anymore
Post by: frankz on January 22, 2021, 12:59:53 PM
I'm saying that if you have ; in your artist (or composer) name, they show up as separate artist in the artist list, and asking whether this will now be the case for artists with commas in their names.  This is why ; or \\ are traditionally used.

I think it's a bad change if so.
Title: Re: [1.3] Using "split" in the artist splitter doesn't split the artists anymore
Post by: Fivda on January 22, 2021, 01:03:53 PM
The reason i use the artist splitter in the first place is just to have a display artist name (like, unit/group for example), and a list of the performers/artists line by line. Never would i use ";" as display artist seperator, it's unaesthetic and does things i don't necessarily want. I might as well just put a group name instead.
Most places online, whenever you'll find a list of grouped artists, they'll almost always be seperated with , rather than ;. That's really all there is to it, i think there's just some confusion
Title: Re: [1.3] Using "split" in the artist splitter doesn't split the artists anymore
Post by: frankz on January 22, 2021, 01:14:51 PM
You're mistaking my comments as a request for an explanation about why you wanted this. 

My questions have to do with the effect this will have and whether it was a good idea.
Title: Re: [1.3] Using "split" in the artist splitter doesn't split the artists anymore
Post by: Fivda on January 22, 2021, 01:16:34 PM
well i wouldn't see an issue anywhere aside from as you said, groups with commas?
Title: Re: [1.3] Using "split" in the artist splitter doesn't split the artists anymore
Post by: hiccup on January 22, 2021, 01:19:53 PM
Technically I think that the middle dot would be correct to use.

But since there is no key on a computer keyboard for it, it's uncommon.
I am using it though.
(auto hotkey is great for making it easier to type non-standard characters such as m and n dashes, horizontal ellipsis, accented letters, etc.)

But it wouldn't solve your issue.
(unless this would become an accepted method and MB accommodates for it)
Title: Re: [1.3] Using "split" in the artist splitter doesn't split the artists anymore
Post by: psychoadept on January 22, 2021, 02:54:27 PM
To be fair I've been skimming, but are we all talking about the same thing? I thought this was about using the Split button explicitly (which I also would have sworn worked for commas), not the automatic separation of artists at the semi colon.
Title: Re: [1.3] Using "split" in the artist splitter doesn't split the artists anymore
Post by: Fivda on January 22, 2021, 02:56:22 PM
To fair I've been skimming, but are we all talking about the same thing? I thought this was about using the Split button explicitly (which I also would have sworn worked for commas), not the automatic separation of artists at the semi colon.
I'm indeed only talking about the split button's behavior. Nothing else
Title: Re: [1.3] Using "split" in the artist splitter doesn't split the artists anymore
Post by: frankz on January 22, 2021, 04:59:12 PM
To fair I've been skimming, but are we all talking about the same thing? I thought this was about using the Split button explicitly (which I also would have sworn worked for commas), not the automatic separation of artists at the semi colon.
Oh, man.

You're a better skimmer than I am.

I'm indeed only talking about the split button's behavior. Nothing else
Oh, man.

I'm putting myself in the corner with a pointy cap.
Title: Re: [1.3] Using "split" in the artist splitter doesn't split the artists anymore
Post by: Fivda on January 24, 2021, 10:24:22 PM
Well actually, i've had the opposite issue instead. There's a music circle called "D'va;;;;;;;;5" and I use it for album artist on my library, but everytime i export the track on other device the album artist always ends up being "D'va" instead of "D'va;;;;;;;;5", because of the ;.