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Support => Questions => Topic started by: Peet on September 13, 2020, 09:47:19 PM

Title: Embedded Fields
Post by: Peet on September 13, 2020, 09:47:19 PM

First Question: Data from which fields are PERMANENTLY embedded into mp3 files and is the "Mood" field embedded?
Second Question: Is data immediately and automatically embedded and/or what do you have to do to ensure mp3 files are updated with changes you make?

Thank You

Title: Re: Embedded Fields
Post by: psychoadept on September 13, 2020, 10:36:10 PM

You can generally assume that tags are stored in the file unless it's a virtual tag or a custom tag set as "save in MusicBee database only". The only other exceptions, off the top of my head, would be play count and date added.

Yes, data is immediately saved UNLESS it's the currently playing track, in which case it's saved as soon as the file is "released" by the player (either another song is played or you use the Stop command - NOT Pause).

You might find this page helpful: https://musicbee.fandom.com/wiki/Tagging

Title: Re: Embedded Fields
Post by: Peet on September 14, 2020, 07:00:40 AM

Thank you!  I hoped that would be your answer.  However, I found that data entered in the "Mood" field are displayed within MB, but when you look at the mp3 file properties in explorer (and any other music player e.g. wmp) the data entered in this field is not reflected.
Why would that be?
Thanks for the link shared, it is most informative!

Title: Re: Embedded Fields
Post by: psychoadept on September 14, 2020, 08:51:31 AM

I just tested it, and when I save a Mood tag it appears in the tag inspector under MOOD with tag code TMOO, as expected. Does Explorer show an empty Mood tag, or no Mood tag at all?

Title: Re: Embedded Fields
Post by: Peet on September 15, 2020, 06:32:57 AM

It shows an empty mood tag.  Thanks

Title: Re: Embedded Fields
Post by: psychoadept on September 15, 2020, 06:52:08 AM

I would guess that's a limitation of Windows/WMP. They may not be configured to read some of the less common MP3 tags. If you can see the TMOO tag in the file (i.e. with tag inspector), then it is there, the issue is just their ability to read it.

Title: Re: Embedded Fields
Post by: Peet on September 15, 2020, 07:02:23 AM

You've been great!  Thanks for trying to help!

Title: Re: Embedded Fields
Post by: psychoadept on September 15, 2020, 08:52:11 AM

You're welcome!

Sorry, I had the tag code wrong, it's TMOO. But the principle remains the same.

I may have solved your mystery. If you look at this, TMOO is only actually supported in ID3v2.4, which Windows has still not bothered to support: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ID3#ID3v2_frame_specification

I ended up installing AudioShell to help with that: https://www.softpointer.com/AudioShell.htm