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Title: DTS Wav - SACD Rip
Post by: Rotem K. on April 07, 2011, 05:27:21 PM
Steven,

I have a wav file that's been ripped from a DTS-SACD. and of course when I don't play it through my system, I hear only static.
I have found that VLC player does play DTS encoded files even when I don't have an external decoder down the line.

It there a way to get MusicBee to play DTS files like that? in a way that the software decodes the DTS and the output is audioable without an external decoder ?

Thanks
Title: Re: DTS Wav - SACD Rip
Post by: jimmanningjr on April 08, 2011, 06:09:33 AM
I hate to say this because I love Music Bee but there are a few things it cant do...Play HDCD and DTS are the only 2 that effect me...What I do is take the DTS wav and use foobar to convert it to a 5.1 flac file...Then Music Bee will play the Flac File with the 5.1 surround sound...I just converted a bunch of Porcupine Tree albums just like that with foobar.Also to my knowledge there are no DTS SACD's What you may have is
a. aDTS CD converted to wave or
b. a rip from a DVD Audio that also had aDTS section or
3.Someone played a SACD back in real time and took the 6 audio outs and hooked them up to a PC that had DTS Software on it to make the resulting 5.1 wave file(s)
I am guessing the first one...You have to watch out too There are starting to be alot of DTS files that are made from Stereo files also AC3 files...these guys (WWW.DTSAC3.com) have a whole system for doing it BUT no matter what they do it is STILL FROM A STEREO MASTER SO IT IS A MATRIX SURROUND RECORDING UPSAMPLED AND UPMIXED TO 5.1....It is not the same as true surround or even true quad...I just listened to a copy of Wish You Were Here by Pink Floyd made from an old Q8 Quad 8Track and it was astounding. The separation was soooo much better than a version I have  made with the method from The above web site  www.dtsac3.com   
Peace From Philly
JIM
PS I sure wish I could write code cause I would help Steven implement these features....but I cant....YET!
Title: Re: DTS Wav - SACD Rip
Post by: Rotem K. on April 08, 2011, 06:21:49 AM
I hate to say this because I love Music Bee but there are a few things it cant do...Play HDCD and DTS are the only 2 that effect me...What I do is take the DTS wav and use foobar to convert it to a 5.1 flac file...Then Music Bee will play the Flac File with the 5.1 surround sound...I just converted a bunch of Porcupine Tree albums just like that with foobar.Also to my knowledge there are no DTS SACD's What you may have is
a. aDTS CD converted to wave or
b. a rip from a DVD Audio that also had aDTS section or
3.Someone played a SACD back in real time and took the 6 audio outs and hooked them up to a PC that had DTS Software on it to make the resulting 5.1 wave file(s)
I am guessing the first one...You have to watch out too There are starting to be alot of DTS files that are made from Stereo files also AC3 files...these guys (WWW.DTSAC3.com) have a whole system for doing it BUT no matter what they do it is STILL FROM A STEREO MASTER SO IT IS A MATRIX SURROUND RECORDING UPSAMPLED AND UPMIXED TO 5.1....It is not the same as true surround or even true quad...I just listened to a copy of Wish You Were Here by Pink Floyd made from an old Q8 Quad 8Track and it was astounding. The separation was soooo much better than a version I have  made with the method from The above web site  www.dtsac3.com   
Peace From Philly
JIM
PS I sure wish I could write code cause I would help Steven implement these features....but I cant....YET!

Thanks for the info Jim! Yeah it's a DTS CD ripped to wav. I'll give a try through Foobar, but would still like to know why it is that some players play DTS while our Bee don't, and if there's a plug-in maybe of a library dll that could be added to add that sort of support.
Title: Re: DTS Wav - SACD Rip
Post by: jimmanningjr on April 08, 2011, 06:46:32 AM
You'll have to ask Steven he deals with that company BASS for most of the codecs for playback...I cant see why he couldnt add the feature...but then again I cant seem to get him to do HDCD playback for flac files that have the HDCD flag...so who knows...I do believe the DTS thing is alot simpler maybe you could go to the BASS website to see if they deal with DTS playback...I think you find the web address when you click "about" in Music Bee!
JIM
Title: Re: DTS Wav - SACD Rip
Post by: Rotem K. on April 08, 2011, 06:57:14 AM
You'll have to ask Steven he deals with that company BASS for most of the codecs for playback...I cant see why he couldnt add the feature...but then again I cant seem to get him to do HDCD playback for flac files that have the HDCD flag...so who knows...I do believe the DTS thing is alot simpler maybe you could go to the BASS website to see if they deal with DTS playback...I think you find the web address when you click "about" in Music Bee!
JIM

I guess some stuff have licensing limitations, so maybe HDCD is one of those, could be DTS is also limited.
Title: Re: DTS Wav - SACD Rip
Post by: Steven on April 08, 2011, 08:10:20 AM
bass doesnt directly support DTS decoding. There is a plugin i was planning to implement later in the year that can decode DTS using a DirectShow filter but no near term solution i am aware of. Perhaps there is a tool that can convert the format into say FLAC so then MB could play it.
Title: Re: DTS Wav - SACD Rip
Post by: Rotem K. on April 08, 2011, 10:57:18 AM
bass doesnt directly support DTS decoding. There is a plugin i was planning to implement later in the year that can decode DTS using a DirectShow filter but no near term solution i am aware of. Perhaps there is a tool that can convert the format into say FLAC so then MB could play it.

Okay thanks! it's good to know that somewhere down the road there is a plan to make it available.
Title: Re: DTS Wav - SACD Rip
Post by: Tommy on March 20, 2017, 03:19:23 PM
....... is there a solution yet ?

I really would like MusicBee to play my DTS 5.1 WAV files.

For a couple of days now I'm trying, but can't make it work .......
Title: Re: DTS Wav - SACD Rip
Post by: Withnail on April 06, 2017, 04:57:41 PM
Yes that would be excellent as i have a few quad and 5.1 dvd's that i had to image and now mount just to play 1 song,(younger me rolls eyes at how lazy digital music has made me/him)
Title: Re: DTS Wav - SACD Rip
Post by: Tommy on October 13, 2017, 04:27:34 PM
....... I was hoping that in the latest 3.1 release this minor issue would be taken care of.

Even though I'm a total MusicBee Freak by now I have to say (Even though people don't like to hear that), Foobar had this little plugin called "foo_input_dts.dll" and it worked.

Probably there are some issues that this can't be done in MusicBee.

Or is there a way to do this now, but overlooked by me ...?...
Title: Re: DTS Wav - SACD Rip
Post by: BluesDaddy on February 21, 2019, 02:33:51 PM
I hate replying to such an old thread, but I'm hoping someone has some insight on this issue. A year ago, I could get DTS files to play with Musicbee using the winamp DTS plugin and with a .dts extension. It would NOT play DTS (or pass through) DTS audio when in a FLAC wrapper. I can't remember exactly when, it was an update prior to the latest, it actually starting passing through DTS fine even with DTS files in the FLAC wrapper. With this latest update it won't do it at all anymore. I can't even get it to play .dts files. I've not changed any of my settings. the Winamp plugin seems configured properly (and the same as before). This is quite frustrating as I like have just one program to play audio files and now I'm having to use two.  On the plus side, it DOES play .DFF files.

Any suggestions?
Title: Re: DTS Wav - SACD Rip
Post by: karavtz on April 21, 2023, 05:37:10 PM
I downloaded yesterday music bee 3.5.8447 and tried to play some dts wav files. At first I was hearing static.
But today I noticed that when I have the volume at full position, they magically play. So I thought to give you a heads-up.
Title: Re: DTS Wav - SACD Rip
Post by: sveakul on April 21, 2023, 08:39:26 PM
You can play DTS files with MusicBee by adding bass_dts.dll:

1.  Download the package here: https://www.nuget.org/api/v2/package/ManagedBass.Dts/0.2.2 (https://www.nuget.org/api/v2/package/ManagedBass.Dts/0.2.2)

2.  Add a *.zip extension to the downloaded file's extension and open it in your zip application;

3.  Open the "build" subfolder and from the "x86" folder inside extract the file bass_dts.dll into your MusicBee directory.