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Support => Questions => Topic started by: rkauke on May 02, 2020, 01:52:44 PM
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First: MB is the best music program I've ever seen.
Second: In the "Edit" window for several titles there is an activation check for all entries. What is the function of the check?(https://imgur.com/Cn15U6v)
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A screenshot is needed here.
Where did you download MusicBee from?
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(https://www.directupload.net/file/d/5807/x6eyedq8_jpg.htm)
Version is 3.3.7367 Store
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https://www.directupload.net/file/d/5807/x6eyedq8_jpg.htm
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(https://s12.directupload.net/images/200502/x6eyedq8.jpg)
OK, it's not what I thought you were saying, which is why screenshots are helpful.
This isn't present "for some files." These check boxes appear when you select multiple files. They indicate whether you want to update that field on all the files with whatever you have entered when you hit "Save." When you update a field, they are selected by default.
For example, if you were to enter a title here, the box would become checked and all the selected files would be updated with that same title. Same for all the fields.
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Oh yes, thank you!
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Second: In the "Edit" window for several titles there is an activation check for all entries. What is the function of the check?
Perhaps I am missing something, but I regard them solely as an indicator/reminder that you have selected multiple files.
I am not aware checking or unchecking them makes any difference.
The tag editor will always edit all and only the files you have selected?
(I vaguely recall a purpose regarding artwork?)
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you're right, there is no difference between checking or unchecking, selected tracks all changed with checking and so with unchecking. Maybe it is really only for remebering....
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you're right, there is no difference between checking or unchecking, selected tracks all changed with checking and so with unchecking.
Maybe somebody else can point out a purpose for why you can check these boxes.
If not, it would probably be good to look at the purpose and the design of them for a next MusicBee release.
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If you uncheck them after adjusting the tag, the tag there still gets updated when you hit save? Not here. Just tested.
Genre is Rock
Updated Genre tag to be Rock; Pop Rock
Moved out of field, box was ticked
Unticked box
Clicked Save
Genre still Rock
Same with splitting a composer and then closing the split screen and then unticking the box. Composer didn't get changed.
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If you uncheck them after adjusting the tag, the tag there still gets updated when you hit save? Not here. Just tested.
Do you mean that it could function as some 'undo' function when you have typed something, but then have second thoughts about having it saved to the tags?
Or have you found in some manner it does differentiate between selected files, and 'unselected' files.
(While I typed 'unselected', I wouldn't even know what 'unselected' files would pertain to in the Tag Editor)
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When I select multiple files and go into the tag editor to edit the tags for those files, then I type in one of the fields, the color of the text I have just typed turns a different color to indicate that I've made a change and the box is checked to indicate that the change will be applied.
(https://i.imgur.com/77sOjSY.jpg)
Then I decide I don't want to apply the change after all and deselect the box and hit save
(https://i.imgur.com/vgaTjeH.jpg)
Then I open the tag editor on the selected files again and verify that the change did not get saved
(https://i.imgur.com/Jji7DkE.jpg)
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When I select multiple files and go into the tag editor to edit the tags for those files, then I type in one of the fields, the color of the text I
Then I open the tag editor on the selected files again and verify that the change did not get saved
So you check the box yourself first?
Why?
And you would uncheck it when you have second thoughts about applying what you have just entered?
(if it indeed serves some 'undo' purpose, why would it only be available when multiple files are selected?)
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So you check the box yourself first?
Why?
No, the box gets checked automatically when you edit the tag.
And you would uncheck it when you have second thoughts about applying what you have just entered?
Because I've done edits to other tags on the files at the same time that I do want to save, but I don't want to save that specific edit.
(if it indeed serves some 'undo' purpose, why would it only be available when multiple files are selected?)
That's above my pay grade.
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I agree with frankz on use of the checkbox - it get selected automatically when you make a change to multiple files. If you unselect it, the change isn't saved after all. Although I don't know why you'd still save it if you didn't want the change (unless maybe you'd made changes to other fields that you did want).
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No, the box gets checked automatically when you edit the tag.
I see what you mean, but to get specific, it only gets checked when after editing you navigate to another field.
Not as soon as you entered/edited something. That would be more sensible for as far as I can estimate at the moment.
(if it indeed serves some 'undo' purpose, why would it only be available when multiple files are selected?)
That's above my pay grade.
It's above my pay grade to even ask these questions.
But it looks like we have established that there is something wrong un-intuitive/inconsistent about the workings and purposes of these check boxes.
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I don't know that it's wrong, but it would be helpful if the box was ticked as soon as you made a change rather than when navigating away. Just so you can be sure.
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I don't know that it's wrong, but it would be helpful if the box was ticked as soon as you made a change rather than when navigating away. Just so you can be sure.
What is 'wrong' about it, is that the check boxes only appear when you have selected multiple files, what suggests it has something to do with applying edits to multiple files. (or not)
(that's also what you will find as an explanation when you do a forum search on the matter)
But it seems we have established now that it serves as an indicator that will indicate that you have selected multiple files, and in that case it also indicates when you have edited a field. (only after you have navigated to another field)
But the latter purpose is not available when you have selected a single track.
Also, if it's purpose is indeed an 'undo' function, (besides that it should then also be available when editing a single track) it would probably be better to have it revert to showing the original values again after you unchecked the box.
Cut to the chase:
It's current purpose/function is ambivalent and not intuitive.
Not-a-bug, but room for improvement for sure.
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I'm not sure where the confusion is coming from. There's no "undo" function to the tickbox. When you have multiple files selected, it indicates that a change is being applied to all files. Unticking it is basically the same as closing without saving. The only time it would serve a purpose is if you'd changed multiple fields and wanted to save some but decided not to save another. You could untick the one you changed your mind about and leave the rest. But it's mostly just a visual indicator of "hey, you're applying this change to more than one file."
The only ambiguity is that if you change a field and don't navigate to another field, then the box is not ticked until you actually hit save (it is ticked at that point, but it may go by so fast you don't see it).
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There's no "undo" function to the tickbox.
The only time it would serve a purpose is if you'd changed multiple fields and wanted to save some but decided not to save another.
That's 'undo' in my book.
And why would the option of checking these boxes only be available when you have selected multiple files, and not when you have selected a single file?
I am still unconvinced that these checkboxes are not trying to do/indicate different things, and are unintuitive.
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Only criticising is not very fruitful, so here's a concrete proposal for a change:
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There is an indication that shows if the edits that you will apply to the Tag Editor panel are applied to a single file or to multiple files.
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Regardless if a single or multiple files are selected, checkboxes are present, but initially 'grayed-out'.
As soon as you start to edit a field, the checkbox for that field gets 'un-greyed', gets checked, and becomes available to uncheck. (for the purpose of when you have second thoughts, and want to undo what you have just entered)
In that case the original values are displayed again.
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Regardless if a single or multiple files are selected, checkboxes are present, but initially 'grayed-out'.
As soon as you start to edit a field, the checkbox for that field gets 'un-greyed', gets checked, and becomes available to uncheck. (for the purpose of when you have second thoughts, and want to undo what you have just entered)
In that case the original values are displayed again.
+1