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General => MusicBee Wishlist => Topic started by: tryguy on February 13, 2011, 06:36:41 AM

Title: Ability to rename files within the program?
Post by: tryguy on February 13, 2011, 06:36:41 AM
I'd be cool if I could have an option on the right-click menu to rename the file.

What I have to do now is go to Explorer, rename, go back to MB and rescan the library. It's not that much of a hassle, but the option to rename would be better. :)
Title: Re: Ability to rename files within the program?
Post by: Steven on February 13, 2011, 07:31:22 AM
for now, you can manually rename a file in the Tag Editor properties tab (if the file is not part of an auto-organised library)
Title: Re: Ability to rename files within the program?
Post by: Invictus on March 05, 2011, 07:34:16 PM
I would LOVE to see a way to rename files the way Quinnessential Media Player does it...short and sweet.
Title: Re: Ability to rename files within the program?
Post by: Steven on March 05, 2011, 07:47:25 PM
i dont have Quinnessential Media Player
could you describe briefly what it does or how you think it should work
Title: Re: Ability to rename files within the program?
Post by: VX on March 09, 2011, 02:24:07 PM
I would LOVE to see a way to rename files the way Quinnessential Media Player does it...short and sweet.

In QMP File Renamer is integrated smoothly with the Tag Editor and available via Right click menu entry: Edit Tags and Filenames
Here you go the screenshots that explain a lot:

The Tag Editor tab (first one):
(http://i.imgur.com/MpJkq.png) (http://imgur.com/MpJkq)

The File Renamer tab (last one):

A. single file rename mode:

(http://i.imgur.com/83oaz.png) (http://imgur.com/83oaz)

B. multi file rename mode:

(http://i.imgur.com/MAqI4.png) (http://imgur.com/MAqI4)

(http://i.imgur.com/iSHN9.png) (http://imgur.com/iSHN9)


I wish MB could follow the simplicity and power of the GUI for Renaming Files. What do You think  ???
Title: Re: Ability to rename files within the program?
Post by: Utew on March 09, 2011, 08:48:52 PM
This is something that I would also find useful.

I use a file renaming program to do the job now, but being able to do the same thing in MB would be one less step to have to go through. I am just as picky about my music file names/folder structure as I am about music file tags. Invictus' suggestion of the Quintessential implementation, looks like a great idea.
Title: Re: Ability to rename files within the program?
Post by: Steven on March 09, 2011, 09:03:01 PM
while not rejecting the above, everyone does realise you can organise files with tags in MB using Tools/Organise Files or right click/Send To/Folder (Organised)?
or alternatively in the library preferences have MB automatically organise your library
Title: Re: Ability to rename files within the program?
Post by: Utew on March 09, 2011, 11:40:41 PM
"Send To Folder (Reorganize)"... yep, that works just fine. Had not tried that as the name of the function didn't seem likely to produce the results required. Thanks for pointing that out, Steven.. works like a charm, for renaming..  :)
Title: Re: Ability to rename files within the program?
Post by: VX on March 10, 2011, 11:09:20 AM
while not rejecting the above, everyone does realise you can organise files with tags in MB using Tools/Organise Files or right click/Send To/Folder (Organised)?
or alternatively in the library preferences have MB automatically organise your library
"Send To Folder (Reorganize)"... yep, that works just fine. Had not tried that as the name of the function didn't seem likely to produce the results required.

That is the real problem! Most users that switch to MusicBee didn't know that if they want to Rename a file they should Organise or Recognize it instead ;D Or if they want to do it with the (tag) Editor, they should edit the location line in the Properties tab.   :o It's completely deceptive, isn't it  ???

IMHO, that it's not an intuitive and expected solution  :-[ That's why there are more and more posts on the forum concerning the renaming and organizing functions (there is no an easy way to Capitalize the Filename as you can do with one of the the Tagging Utilities...).

I like the Organise Files Tool a lot as it allows to manage multiple files quickly, but it's not the point. I strongly recommend to redesign the current Editor in a way how it is done in Quinntessential Media Player (the project hasn't been actively developed for 3 years :()

1. The first step would be to change the current right-click 'Edit' command with 'Edit Tags and Filenames'  (with F 2 as default shortcut),

2. then create a separate 'Rename and Organise File/s' tab with easy accessible options and settings.

3. There should be predefined renaming patterns with different Placeholders

4. and Capitalization options accessible via expandable menus, like the the one that can be found in Quintessential Media Player or Tag Scanner.

Compare how it is solved in Tag Scanner, which also combines tag editing and renaming functions:
(http://i.imgur.com/AtA37.png) (http://imgur.com/AtA37)

There are more and more interesting proposals in the Wishlist section on the forum, but IMHO enhancing the GUI to make it more intuitive and user-friendly when it comes to (in fact basic) renaming functions should be one of the top priorities.

When it is done the right-click menu would be simpler, more intuitive and powerful: Send to/Folder(Recognize) entry could be removed then.


Title: Re: Ability to rename files within the program?
Post by: Adson on March 10, 2011, 09:48:36 PM

+ 1

I never noticed the "Send To ... Reorganise" function before I read this posting.
It's a very nice function that should not be hidden in the "Send To ..." menus.

A.
Title: Re: Ability to rename files within the program?
Post by: Steven on March 10, 2011, 10:06:50 PM
i dont want to clutter up the main context menu with too many items. Even if its not noticable from the "Send To" menu its still obvious in the main Tools menu
Title: Re: Ability to rename files within the program?
Post by: VX on March 11, 2011, 09:33:59 AM
i dont want to clutter up the main context menu with too many items. Even if its not noticable from the "Send To" menu its still obvious in the main Tools menu
I second that approach. I would go a bit further in that direction:

1. why not to remove Auto-DJ from the Send to menu (it's accessible from 'Play more...' command);

2. merge Send to/Folder into one expandable entry

Send to/Folder/
- move
- copy
- burn (i.e. copy the selected tracks or albums into a folder, then burn the folder with default Windows utility and preferably delete it when the burn process is successfully completed, unless a user choose the option to leave it for future burnings);

Send to / Library/
  - MusicBee Library no. 1
  - MusicBee Library no. 2 ...
  - Windows 7 Music Library (http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=2928.msg15288#msg15288);

Send to / List Maker (under the last separator alongside other tools; this would export selected tracks to a list as:)
     -  CSV Excel file,
     -  HTML file (with COVERS AND STATISTICS),
     - TXT file (with information of the content of each folder),
     - XML file (for album lists creation) compare[u/] (http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=2939.0):
   
3. merge Auto-Tag by Track and by Album into one expandable entry  Auto-Tagger ???
Title: Re: Ability to rename files within the program?
Post by: Steven on March 12, 2011, 03:45:12 PM
i've added a Rename button to the tag editor. It opens a simplified file organiser dialog where you can rename the current file being edited based on tag values for the file
Title: Re: Ability to rename files within the program?
Post by: VX on March 14, 2011, 01:00:39 PM
I was searching for the Rename button in the few latest development builds and was not able find it.  :-[

I've discovered it by accident today changing the way Editor is shown form Main Panel (my default option) to Floating Window.

I like the solution in Floating Window, but the Editor docked to Main Panel needs to be improved as it's not so obvious that a user should search for essential commands under the expandable arrow. Why not adding a separate bar with the commands(buttons) on the top of the Editor  ???

I do insist on changing the 'Edit' command in the right-click menu to 'Edit tags and filenames (F2)'

F2 is standard shortcut for renaming in most Windows applications and the above command would be more informative.
 The current "Edit" could be misleading: Edit what ??? Selected audio track with external audio editor  ???

Thank you for the improvements  :)
Title: Re: Ability to rename files within the program?
Post by: Steven on March 14, 2011, 02:55:07 PM
Why not adding a separate bar with the commands(buttons) on the top of the Editor  ???
i'm wondering why i didnt do that in the first place! no doubt there was some reason when i did it way back at the start of MB
Title: Re: Ability to rename files within the program?
Post by: Steven on March 14, 2011, 09:04:19 PM
i've tried this but it doesnt work well visually and makes the screen look cluttered and its not easy to see the menu without some changes. I might revisit this at a later date with the help of one of the skinning experts
Title: Re: Ability to rename files within the program?
Post by: VX on March 16, 2011, 08:48:54 AM
Thank you very much for trying  :) Let's hope our skinning experts and designers could help with that.

And what is Your opinion on:
changing the 'Edit' command in the right-click menu to 'Edit tags and filenames (F2)'

F2 is standard shortcut for renaming in most Windows applications and the above command would be more informative.
 The current "Edit" could be misleading: Edit what ??? Selected audio track with external audio editor  ???
Title: Re: Ability to rename files within the program?
Post by: SileneDioica on March 06, 2014, 04:31:59 PM
Hi there!

I tried out your program for some days and I LOVE it!

I found most of the funktions i was searching for. I'm just still looking for a possibility to rename multiple files by tag. The rename-button in the songs preferences works only if I have marked only one song.

Is there a way I am missing?

Thanks!
Silene
Title: Re: Ability to rename files within the program?
Post by: redwing on March 07, 2014, 12:10:33 AM
I'm just still looking for a possibility to rename multiple files by tag. The rename-button in the songs preferences works only if I have marked only one song.

Is there a way I am missing?

As suggested from the previous posts in this thread, you could use Send to> Folder(move) to organized folders. Or use Tools> Organize Files from main menu after selecting files.
Title: Re: Ability to rename files within the program?
Post by: SileneDioica on March 07, 2014, 12:55:40 AM
Thanks, that did the job :). Didn't find it before in my german version... Thanks a lot for your quick support!

However there IS the possibility to rename (one file) by tag in the tag-editor. As a feature-Request I'd suggest making it usable for multiple files too since it's rather easy to find in an intuitive way. The tagging-window works fine with multiple files when it's just tagging and not renaming, so why not putting this renaming button to a wider use too ^^. Right now when many files are selected this button is still there but not doing anything (not clickable).
Title: Re: Ability to rename files within the program?
Post by: SileneDioica on March 07, 2014, 01:19:13 AM
... but very low priority ;D... don't wanna be the New-User-Feature-Reqester ^^.

I'm happy already now that i found it :D.

I'm impressed now, having found out this is a 1-person-work. Awesome!!!
Title: Re: Ability to rename files within the program?
Post by: bilbo_b on May 08, 2014, 12:22:28 PM
I have tried MB today the first time. If mark on file, i could edit the Tags. But the Rename Button is greyed out. What im doing wrong?
Title: Re: Ability to rename files within the program?
Post by: psychoadept on May 09, 2014, 09:19:00 PM
Do you have auto-organize turned on?  If so, the file name will be updated automatically once you save.
Title: Re: Ability to rename files within the program?
Post by: bilbo_b on May 10, 2014, 01:39:01 PM
Ahhh thats it. Many thanks!