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Title: Request: 432 hz tuning (automatically)
Post by: swedishme on August 22, 2018, 08:33:09 PM
Its getting more and more popular with 432 hz tuning, specially with meditation music. Most are in 440hz. So the question is this, is it possible to do a plugin that can automaticly "auto tune" the songs that are played?

There is a little bit more about it:

https://www.roelhollander.eu/en/432-tuning/432-music-players/
http://recreatingbalance1.blogspot.com/2014/09/how-to-easily-convert-any-music-to.html
Title: Re: Request: 432 hz tuning (automatically)
Post by: Steven on August 22, 2018, 09:51:24 PM
The BASS plugin MB uses has access to the same Soundtouch library that the foobar plugin uses, so it would be possible. I will add something for v3.3
Title: Re: Request: 432 hz tuning (automatically)
Post by: swedishme on August 23, 2018, 02:05:27 PM
That would be awesome. :D
Title: Re: Request: 432 hz tuning (automatically)
Post by: frankz on August 23, 2018, 03:06:01 PM
Can you give a brief summary of what this does and why one would use it?
Title: Re: Request: 432 hz tuning (automatically)
Post by: swedishme on October 01, 2018, 08:48:49 AM
Can you give a brief summary of what this does and why one would use it?

Its mostly popular by meditation music. It says it is the ultimate tuning. Some says it can heal you and others says its cause its what the universe is made by, and the rest says its b*shit. I do suffer off headace and have problems listening to music for a long time, but didn't get that at a friends place, I thought it was the speakers or something but when I asked she told me she used a 432 Hz player on her phone. I did try it and I can listen to more music without having headace. Wierd, but it worked for me.
Title: Re: Request: 432 hz tuning (automatically)
Post by: frankz on October 01, 2018, 05:44:20 PM
Got it - thanks!
Title: Re: Request: 432 hz tuning (automatically)
Post by: colorizing1 on November 07, 2018, 09:29:41 PM
I hope and waiting for the next version. :D
Title: Re: Request: 432 hz tuning (automatically)
Post by: sveakul on August 26, 2019, 01:49:28 AM
The BASS plugin MB uses has access to the same Soundtouch library that the foobar plugin uses, so it would be possible. I will add something for v3.3

@Steven:  is this addition still on the drawing board for 3.3x?  Just curious!
Title: Re: Request: 432 hz tuning (automatically)
Post by: phred on August 26, 2019, 02:42:55 AM
@Steven:  is this addition still on the drawing board for 3.3x?  Just curious!
While Steven hasn't said it, I would think at this point he's only doing bug-fixes for 3.3. I know that he is working on 3.4, so if this is going to be added, it would probably be in the 3.4 series.
Title: Re: Request: 432 hz tuning (automatically)
Post by: Steven on September 01, 2019, 04:37:23 PM
this is done for v3.4, with sample rate and pitch adjustments now supported
Title: Re: Request: 432 hz tuning (automatically)
Post by: sveakul on September 02, 2019, 04:41:43 AM
Thanks for the info Steven, this will be interesting to "play" with.  I'm always open to a testable new idea (i.e. swedishme's remarks), and then drawing my own conclusions.

For anyone's interest, that tuning pitch (432hz) is done by doing pitch adjust to -0.32 (exact -0.3176) in semitones, -31.766 in cents.  Alternately, the same effect is claimed by doing a  playback rate (NOT tempo) adjust of -1.82%  (exact is -1.818%), or .98182 X, depending on what scale is provided.  I tried the pitch method in another player but it resulted in noticeable audio "artifacts" so the testing ended, ahem, immediately;  that player however did not use the BASS libraries.
Title: Re: Request: 432 hz tuning (automatically)
Post by: francoteves on July 06, 2020, 10:05:13 PM
Hello friends. I read this thread but I can't figure out how to finetune (in cents, not by halftones) the audio. Could somebody explain to me please? Thank you
Title: Re: Request: 432 hz tuning (automatically)
Post by: phred on July 06, 2020, 10:20:20 PM
Hello friends. I read this thread but I can't figure out how to finetune (in cents, not by halftones) the audio. Could somebody explain to me please? Thank you
The first thing youi would need is version 3.4 which is currently in alpha state. Steve occasionally posts links to the 'current' alpha, so just keep an eye on this thread and it should show up. If you don't see it in a week or so, feel free to 'bump' the thread.
Title: Re: Request: 432 hz tuning (automatically)
Post by: sveakul on July 08, 2020, 07:47:40 PM
A heads up:  both Pitch and Sample Rate (aka Playback Rate) have now been implemented in MusicBee 3.4.7491 beta, available from the first thread in the Forum.  Their control interface is built within the "Tempo Control" GUI selectable from the Prefs/Player/Equaliser & DSP/DSP Plugins box.  See my related post here: https://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=32148.0 (https://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=32148.0) .

For those interested in the 432Hz effect, testing with Pitch set at -.32 so far has not resulted in the annoying artifacts this presented in an alternative player.  I am using bass_fx.dll version 2.4.12.5 as opposed to the supplied 2.4.12.1 to take advantage of the latest SoundTouch version (see https://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=25133.msg171720#msg171720 (https://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=25133.msg171720#msg171720) ).

@Steven:  it might be better if the plugin was renamed to "Tempo/Pitch/SampleRate" in order to make its content more evident to newcomers when seeing it listed in the DSP Plugins box.
Title: Re: Request: 432 hz tuning (automatically)
Post by: hiccup on July 09, 2020, 06:10:48 PM
For those interested in the 432Hz effect,

What I am most curious about; has it brought you any change in music enjoyment?
Title: Re: Request: 432 hz tuning (automatically)
Post by: sveakul on July 09, 2020, 07:29:46 PM
Negatory, but my understanding is the claimed effect is only "noticeable" over time.  I'm going to give it a try just with longer periods of radio streams as opposed to fle listening.  I have no idea whether it's malarkey, or actually helps some people (maybe someday me?), but I like experimenting with things  ;D
Title: Re: Request: 432 hz tuning (automatically)
Post by: hiccup on July 09, 2020, 07:53:18 PM
I am also curious what will happen if the artist already had tuned his instruments to adhere to this notion of 432 Hz making sense.

Would somebody get headaches when these songs then become tuned to 423,36 Hz (my calculations may be off here), or will their moods get even more serene or joyful?

Oh, the mysteries of life and music ;-)