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Support => Portable Devices => Topic started by: AndySocial on April 13, 2018, 08:16:24 PM

Title: Auto-delete Playlists on Sync
Post by: AndySocial on April 13, 2018, 08:16:24 PM
I'm loving MusicBee so far, moving over from many years of MediaMonkey. I particularly appreciate the Podcast and Last.FM support - very nice.

While synchronizing music to my Sansa Clip Zip (MTP mode), I have it set to delete music not in the list, which it does perfectly (including Podcasts, which the primate product had trouble with). But, it doesn't remove playlists from the device if they were pushed there once and are now no longer on the sync list.

For example, I had a playlist, CA that I pushed to the Clip via a sync. Later, I decided I didn't want to keep CA on my Clip, so I removed it from the Sync List. After a sync, it deleted all the MP3 files that belonged to the playlist, but the PLA file itself remained on the device.

Am I missing a setting that I need to toggle?
Title: Re: Auto-delete Playlists on Sync (Sansa Clip)
Post by: phred on April 13, 2018, 08:58:58 PM
It should be deleting the playlist file without any further settings. If the Clip can accept a different format, I'd try M3U8 or M3U instead of PLA and see if that works as expected.
Title: Re: Auto-delete Playlists on Sync (Sansa Clip)
Post by: AndySocial on April 16, 2018, 10:18:18 PM
Trying a number of combinations, all to the internal storage:

PLA (no option to use relative paths): playlists transferred fine, worked fine on device, not deleted from device when removed from sync list

M3U (relative paths NOT checked): playlists transferred, device sees them as playlists but they are empty. Not removed from device when removed from sync list.

M3U (relative paths): playlists transferred, device sees them as playlists and they are populated. Not removed from device when removed from sync list.

WPL (either): playlists transferred, device does not see them as playlists.

M3U8 (either): playlists transferred, device does not recognize them as playlists.

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So, it looks like the Sansa Clip Zip does understand M3U playlists, with relative paths anyway. But, no combination of settings makes the playlists disappear when they are removed from the sync list. Songs from the playlists are deleted, but not the playlist file itself.
Title: Re: Auto-delete Playlists on Sync
Post by: AndySocial on April 26, 2018, 11:25:29 PM
More testing, this time on a Chenfec C50 (clip clone). It uses standard USB mass storage mode only, and is assigned a drive letter by Windows.

Playlist support for the Chenfec is M3U only, and MusicBee shows the same behavior as with the MTP-mode Sansa Clip Zip previously tested.

Specifically, playlists will copy over, but won't be deleted when removed from the sync list. The music files themselves will be deleted when removed from the sync list, but the playlist files remain on the player.

Both players put the playlists in a directory /Playlists, and Music in /Music/whatever/whatever/stuff.mp3 etc.

I really want to use MusicBee, as its Podcast handling is superior to other products available, but needing to manually delete unused and unusable playlists is a bit of a strange quirk.
Title: Re: Auto-delete Playlists on Sync
Post by: AndySocial on April 26, 2018, 11:57:11 PM
Oh, and if it matters, I'm using the Windows Store app, not a normally downloaded and installed version.
Title: Re: Auto-delete Playlists on Sync
Post by: AndySocial on June 20, 2018, 11:47:34 PM
So, no insights? I have done all I can to test it on multiple devices with multiple options - playlists do not delete from the destination portable device.

I begin to think nobody uses portable music players that aren't phones. :-)
Title: Re: Auto-delete Playlists on Sync
Post by: phred on June 21, 2018, 12:55:37 AM
https://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=25700.0;topicseen
Title: Re: Auto-delete Playlists on Sync
Post by: AndySocial on June 21, 2018, 12:58:43 AM
That's not the issue. As stated in my original post, the songs are deleted, but the m3u or pla file remains.

It deletes songs, it just doesn't delete playlists.
Title: Re: Auto-delete Playlists on Sync
Post by: vanhoivanbinh on July 25, 2018, 04:14:22 AM
So, no insights? I have done all I can to test it on multiple devices with multiple options - playlists do not delete from the destination portable device.

I begin to think nobody uses portable music players that aren't phones. :-)
I met the same problem
I syn the Musicbee playlists with my phone Asus Zenfone 3
the un-synced playlists are all there even I have unticked it in the sync list
It shows up as empty playlist on my music player app
So annoying