getmusicbee.com

General => MusicBee Wishlist => Topic started by: Bee-liever on February 18, 2018, 07:40:14 PM

Title: More virtual/custom tags
Post by: Bee-liever on February 18, 2018, 07:40:14 PM
With the extra functions now available on boroda74's additional tagging plugin, I think that more custom and virtual tags will be needed.
At the same time, I don't think these need to be in the standard MB release as extra tabs  (eg. a Tags(3) tab in the tag editor) as this would probably only lead to more confusion amongst new users.

Is it within the scope of the API to be used to create a plugin that could directly interact with MB's native preferences and tag editor panels to intergrate more custom and virtual tags into them?

Or Steven, would it be better to put this in the wishlist and hope that they were added in an (and I cringe as I type this) "Advanced Users" option?
Title: Re: More virtual/custom tags
Post by: boroda on February 19, 2018, 09:51:49 AM
Or Steven, would it be better to put this in the wishlist and hope that they were added in an (and I cringe as I type this) "Advanced Users" option?
"advanced users" option seems to be very good idea not only for custom/virtual tags, but in general. i like very high customization of mb, but it can scare off newbies.
Title: Re: More virtual/custom tags
Post by: psychoadept on February 19, 2018, 07:29:08 PM
What if, rather than a Tags (3), Custom tags were simply given their own tab.  And there could be another tab for virtual tags, instead of hiding them deep in preferences?  It could even include configuring the field type, etc.
Title: Re: More virtual/custom tags
Post by: Bee-liever on March 11, 2018, 10:14:45 PM
With the new colour and font overrides and the additional operations available in boroda74's plugin, more virtual/custom tags would be greatly appreciated  :)
Title: Re: More virtual/custom tags
Post by: vzell on March 13, 2018, 12:51:21 PM
With the new colour and font overrides and the additional operations available in borada74's plugin, more virtual tags would be greatly appreciated  :)

+1
Title: Re: More virtual/custom tags
Post by: Bee-liever on April 02, 2018, 11:12:49 PM
Is it within the scope of the API to be used to create a plugin that could directly interact with MB's native preferences and tag editor panels to intergrate more custom and virtual tags into them?

Or Steven, would it be better to put this in the wishlist and hope that they were added in an (and I cringe as I type this) "Advanced Users" option?

Bump

I never got an answer to this.
Title: Re: More virtual/custom tags
Post by: wobbly on April 04, 2018, 01:07:38 AM
What if, rather than a Tags (3), Custom tags were simply given their own tab.  And there could be another tab for virtual tags, instead of hiding them deep in preferences?  It could even include configuring the field type, etc.


+1

i still don't understand why we have tags 1 and tags 2 even a name change would help new uses

own tab for

Custom tags  and  virtual tags yes please 
Title: Re: More virtual/custom tags
Post by: phred on April 04, 2018, 02:57:44 AM
i still don't understand why we have tags 1 and tags 2 even a name change would help new uses
Because as Steven kept adding new configuration items, it would've taken up too much space for one tab. So it was split into two.
Title: Re: More virtual/custom tags
Post by: Steven on April 07, 2018, 03:05:28 PM
Is it within the scope of the API to be used to create a plugin that could directly interact with MB's native preferences and tag editor panels to intergrate more custom and virtual tags into them?

Or Steven, would it be better to put this in the wishlist and hope that they were added in an (and I cringe as I type this) "Advanced Users" option?
no, it requires coding through-out MB and not something that can be added via plugin
Title: Re: More virtual/custom tags
Post by: Bee-liever on April 13, 2018, 11:34:57 AM
no, it requires coding through-out MB and not something that can be added via plugin
I thought so  :(
I could see that creating an extra tab on the tag panel was possible (probably) with a plugin, but adding in more custom/virtual tags didn't seem achievable.
Title: Re: More virtual/custom tags
Post by: Bee-liever on April 13, 2018, 11:37:40 AM
Could a Moderator merge this post into this wishlist post: https://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=24674.0 (https://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=24674.0)
Title: Re: More virtual/custom tags
Post by: Steven on April 14, 2018, 03:12:49 PM
For the next update there are 32 virtual tags
I dont plan to change the custom tag count
Title: Re: More virtual/custom tags
Post by: redwing on April 14, 2018, 03:32:53 PM
Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: More virtual/custom tags
Post by: Steven on April 14, 2018, 04:42:33 PM
http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V3_2/MusicBee32_Patched.zip
Title: Re: More virtual/custom tags
Post by: redwing on April 16, 2018, 04:23:14 PM
What if, rather than a Tags (3), Custom tags were simply given their own tab.  And there could be another tab for virtual tags, instead of hiding them deep in preferences?  It could even include configuring the field type, etc.

+1

New users keep asking about how to map unsupported fields to custom tags. It would be easier to guess if identifier list and custom tag list are shown together. As psychoadept said, if custom tags and virtual tags have their own tabs, it would be much easier to browse them especially now with 32 virtual tags. Also it would be useful to show configure field type column for both tabs as it's easy to forget the changed type for each tag.
Title: Re: More virtual/custom tags
Post by: vzell on April 16, 2018, 08:16:46 PM
+1
Title: Re: More virtual/custom tags
Post by: HonHarv96 on April 19, 2018, 02:08:20 AM
+1
Title: Re: More virtual/custom tags
Post by: psychoadept on April 19, 2018, 03:37:17 AM
if identifier list and custom tag list are shown together.

This, this this.  Having the identifier list in a completely separate window from the custom tag list makes it extra confusing.  Custom tags and the identifier list should be together, virtual tags can be separate (although yes, both should have a way to assign the field type paired with them.

What if the tag definition list looked like this?

Display Name (replaces/merges with Identifier) | ID3 | Vorbis | etc | Assign to custom tag (drop down list containing custom tag slots not currently assigned)

I haven't worked out the question of how to do deal with the pre-existing list of things that can be turned into custom tags, but I feel like there is a workable solution.
Title: Re: More virtual/custom tags
Post by: boroda on April 19, 2018, 12:55:44 PM
if identifier list and custom tag list are shown together.

This, this this.  Having the identifier list in a completely separate window from the custom tag list makes it extra confusing.  Custom tags and the identifier list should be together, virtual tags can be separate (although yes, both should have a way to assign the field type paired with them).

What if the tag definition list looked like this?

Display Name (replaces/merges with Identifier) | ID3 | Vorbis | etc | Assign to custom tag (drop down list containing custom tag slots not currently assigned)

I haven't worked out the question of how to do deal with the pre-existing list of things that can turned into custom tags, but I feel like there is a workable solution.
+1 for this
Title: Re: More virtual/custom tags
Post by: Bee-liever on March 31, 2019, 06:13:15 AM
I dont plan to change the custom tag count

During the 11 months since this was posted, there has been two prominent users expand on the MusicBrainz Picard q & a (read=guide) with its vast array of specialist fields, and zkhcohen has a plugin in the beta stage that writes seven EBUR 128 values to custom tags.

I thought it might be time to give this topic another kick in the butt  ;)
Title: Re: More virtual/custom tags
Post by: vzell on April 03, 2019, 05:35:56 AM
I dont plan to change the custom tag count

During the 11 months since this was posted, there has been two prominent users expand on the MusicBrainz Picard q & a (read=guide) with its vast array of specialist fields, and zkhcohen has a plugin in the beta stage that writes seven EBUR 128 values to custom tags.

I thought it might be time to give this topic another kick in the butt  ;)

+1
Title: Re: More virtual/custom tags
Post by: The Incredible Boom Boom on October 16, 2020, 04:16:39 PM
What if, rather than a Tags (3), Custom tags were simply given their own tab.  And there could be another tab for virtual tags, instead of hiding them deep in preferences?  It could even include configuring the field type, etc.

I dont plan to change the custom tag count

During the 11 months since this was posted, there has been two prominent users expand on the MusicBrainz Picard q & a (read=guide) with its vast array of specialist fields, and zkhcohen has a plugin in the beta stage that writes seven EBUR 128 values to custom tags.

I thought it might be time to give this topic another kick in the butt  ;)

 +1 for Custom and Virtual Tags in a different tab, along with more Custom Tags
Title: Re: More virtual/custom tags
Post by: hiccup on October 16, 2020, 04:50:41 PM
+1

And, if this wish is going to trigger some work on the settings panel(s), let me stack another wish on top:

A keyboard shortcut option to access the custom/virtual tag settings panel directly.
(my mouse and my fingers would be very grateful)
Title: Re: More virtual/custom tags
Post by: vzell on October 16, 2020, 06:04:40 PM
+1 for the shortcut