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Title: Help with cue listed FLAC files
Post by: andrew on April 29, 2017, 08:52:56 PM
I don't know if that actually what they are called but that what I'm gunna call em. you know those FLAC files that contain a 10 track album but its only 1 file.
I've found that music bee is having trouble editing the tags on it and want to know if there is way to expand the single file into individual files for each track.

any help is appreciated
Title: Re: Help with cue listed FLAC files
Post by: fabulario on April 29, 2017, 09:30:02 PM
I've used Medieval Cue Splitter for a long time. Simple, without many option, but does his job.
Now I use CueTools. More powerful, with many options: repair cues, format conversion, cover management ...
More complex, but allows more control over the process.

Both are free.

http://www.medieval.it/cuesplitter-pc/menu-id-71.html
http://cue.tools/wiki/CUETools_Download
Title: Re: Help with cue listed FLAC files
Post by: vincent kars on April 30, 2017, 03:31:06 PM
Medieval might drop some frames: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98368-Dividing-LARGE-flac-file-into-tracks&p=742015&viewfull=1#post742015
Title: Re: Help with cue listed FLAC files
Post by: vincent kars on April 30, 2017, 04:31:02 PM
BTW: why not use MusicBee to do the job?
Select the tracks and "Send" to "Format Conversion".
You don't need to convert, it will simply split the single file in 1 file per track
Title: Re: Help with cue listed FLAC files
Post by: andrew on May 10, 2017, 01:23:25 PM
I've used Medieval Cue Splitter for a long time. Simple, without many option, but does his job.
Now I use CueTools. More powerful, with many options: repair cues, format conversion, cover management ...
More complex, but allows more control over the process.

Both are free.

http://www.medieval.it/cuesplitter-pc/menu-id-71.html
http://cue.tools/wiki/CUETools_Download
thanks mate, ill give these a try :)
Title: Re: Help with cue listed FLAC files
Post by: andrew on May 10, 2017, 01:24:21 PM
BTW: why not use MusicBee to do the job?
Select the tracks and "Send" to "Format Conversion".
You don't need to convert, it will simply split the single file in 1 file per track

Hadn't even thought of that. thanks mate. i'll let you know how it goes.
Title: Re: Help with cue listed FLAC files
Post by: redwing on May 10, 2017, 02:08:34 PM
You don't need to convert, it will simply split the single file in 1 file per track

Splitting without re-encoding? I don't think that's how it works. It converts the big file into each single track as lossless is still lossless through re-encoding.
Title: Re: Help with cue listed FLAC files
Post by: vincent kars on May 10, 2017, 03:21:18 PM
Perhaps I was a bit unclear.
OP is looking for tools to split single file+cue into 1 file per track.
As MusicBee offers format conversion, one expect this to convert the format  e.g. APE to FLAC.
Hence one doesn’t expect this to be useful for splitting.

However it can also convert from e.g. FLAC to FLAC.
Sounds totally useless but in case of a single FLAC+cue  this is what you need when you want the file to be split.
So splitting is using format conversion without converting the format  :)
Clear?

Title: Re: Help with cue listed FLAC files
Post by: redwing on May 10, 2017, 03:38:13 PM
Yep. Much clearer.

Personally I'm using MB's format converter too whenever I come across those big FLAC files. If you don't split them, you can have problems keeping metadata for each track like lyrics.
Title: Re: Help with cue listed FLAC files
Post by: vincent kars on May 10, 2017, 03:52:35 PM
The cue sheet syntax is very limited indeed.
http://kodi.wiki/view/Cue_sheets

The only advantage of a single file I can think of  is that it play gapless regardless of the format and regardless the media player. Often DLNA players don’t support gapless.
Title: Re: Help with cue listed FLAC files
Post by: andrew on May 14, 2017, 02:35:13 PM
so slight update on the issue here.  Ive used the file converter in MB to great success on most FLAC + Cue but some albums cue sheets are being read and I see only one "song"(file) in the MB library. Does this mean the cue sheets are faulty? Ive taken the long road and began using audacity to splice the files into tracks and still keep the 24bit, 192k quality.
Title: Re: Help with cue listed FLAC files
Post by: vincent kars on May 14, 2017, 03:40:13 PM
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Does this mean the cue sheets are faulty?

Most of the time the file name in the cue sheet doesn't match the "real" file name (including the extension).
Selecting the name in Win explorer and copy/paste it in the cue sheet often helps.

If everything fails you, you might try to generate the cue sheet using CueSheetHeaven: http://www.thewelltemperedcomputer.com/SW/CueSheet_SW.htm
Title: Re: Help with cue listed FLAC files
Post by: NickIst on May 12, 2018, 07:13:31 PM
Yep. Much clearer.

Personally I'm using MB's format converter too whenever I come across those big FLAC files. If you don't split them, you can have problems keeping metadata for each track like lyrics.
Is MB's format converter accurate in saving gaps and timing?  Is there any tool in MB to reunite tracks into a single file?
Title: Re: Help with cue listed FLAC files
Post by: redwing on May 15, 2018, 05:49:16 PM
Is MB's format converter accurate in saving gaps and timing?  Is there any tool in MB to reunite tracks into a single file?

If you care that much about gaps, I'd suggest using CueTools instead. It has various options for gap handling. Also supports for your second question as well.
Title: Re: Help with cue listed FLAC files
Post by: NickIst on May 17, 2018, 10:59:50 AM
Is MB's format converter accurate in saving gaps and timing?  Is there any tool in MB to reunite tracks into a single file?

If you care that much about gaps, I'd suggest using CueTools instead. It has various options for gap handling. Also supports for your second question as well.
Thanks, it's really convenient program. The only problem I had (and that's why I tried someting outside MB) is that in one album I had a faint but an audible snap between two tracks which have a seamless transition. In single file flac it's fine, but in file-per track only between these two tracks there is a snap. The most puzzling thing that there is no snap when I playback tracks separately from each other (I mean not in the original order or jumping from one to another). I don't know whether it's incorrect splitting or playback settings, but I splitted another album and everything is ok.
Title: Re: Help with cue listed FLAC files
Post by: redwing on May 17, 2018, 04:17:14 PM
I'd open the single file with Audacity and take a close look at the area to see if there's such an audio signal.
Title: Re: Help with cue listed FLAC files
Post by: NickIst on June 19, 2018, 02:26:09 PM
I'd open the single file with Audacity and take a close look at the area to see if there's such an audio signal.
I think the problem is within my hardware, because in the audacity I don't see any peaks or undesired snaps or flicks, plus moving balance to L/R channels proved that the audio signal is ok. So maybe it's just a coincidence that only during playing these two tracks in the original order hardware produces some unnecessary noises.