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Title: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: SpeedWeed on November 23, 2016, 09:59:46 PM
Hello, please someone help me I dont know what to do anymore. I downloaded 2 new albums of Black Sabbath but when i try to add them to MusicBee the program just duplicates all the songs with the names of the album songs. Ej. there are 15 songs in total within the 2 albums but when i import them to MusicBee there are 113 songs. I dont even know what to do.
 Here is a picture: http://i.imgur.com/YVrtplr.png
Thanks.
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: psychoadept on November 23, 2016, 11:47:51 PM
My guess is you've got a cue sheet in each file.  I think you can remove it via the tag editor
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: SpeedWeed on November 24, 2016, 12:45:55 AM
How do i do that? I think i have tried everything removing tags from windows explorer and all that, nothing. I mean i have Metallica albums that have the same format and i have no prblem with it. Now I cant hear Black Sabbath!! Ahhh this was a great program until this ive been all day just trying to import 2 albums into MusicBee
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: psychoadept on November 24, 2016, 12:54:19 AM
I'm not an expert on cue sheets, but someone who knows more will hopefully comment.
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: SpeedWeed on November 24, 2016, 12:59:28 AM
I am really tired of this. I been all day just trying to hear some Sabbath what the hell! My Metallica tracks have the same format there must be something else i haven't checked but i dont really know what.
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: SpeedWeed on November 24, 2016, 01:06:35 AM
I'm not an expert on cue sheets, but someone who knows more will hopefully comment.
C'mon man you dont know a dev or someone that could help?
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: CritterMan on November 24, 2016, 01:15:58 AM
Can you upload the files to a cloud service so we can continue to assist you?
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: SpeedWeed on November 24, 2016, 01:16:37 AM
Can you upload the files to a cloud service so we can continue to assist you?
What cloud service?
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: CritterMan on November 24, 2016, 01:17:12 AM
Dealer's choice. Dropbox tends to work.
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: SpeedWeed on November 24, 2016, 01:30:01 AM
Dealer's choice. Dropbox tends to work.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8EICvY22KRzVGVsUDJTVUJHUW8
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: SpeedWeed on November 24, 2016, 01:54:09 AM
No luck?
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: psychoadept on November 24, 2016, 02:54:57 AM
The issue is definitely a cue sheet.  I haven't figured out how to fix it yet.
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: SpeedWeed on November 24, 2016, 03:03:21 AM
The issue is definitely a cue sheet.  I haven't figured out how to fix it yet.
So rip black Sabbath on Muiscbee?
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: redwing on November 24, 2016, 03:06:41 AM
Open tag editor for one of the file and you will see "Edit Cuesheet" button at the bottom.
Click on it, and select all content in it and remove it, click on Update, and then click on Save button of tag editor.
Do this for all duplicates of track #1 file of each CD. And then relaunch MB.
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: redwing on November 24, 2016, 03:10:00 AM
So rip black Sabbath on Muiscbee?

That won't make this hassle. You must have selected an option to embed cuesheet to each file.
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: SpeedWeed on November 24, 2016, 03:23:06 AM
Open tag editor for one of the file and you will see "Edit Cuesheet" button at the bottom.
Click on it, and select all content in it and remove it, click on Update, and then click on Save button of tag editor.
Do this for all duplicates of track #1 file of each CD. And then relaunch MB.
I dont know what happened. I did all that now instead of 204 songs i have 184. And some of the original names are gone.
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: redwing on November 24, 2016, 03:30:32 AM
Then select all those tracks, go to Tools> Tagging Tools> Remove tags.
And select "remove specific tags", and see if there's "cuesheet" or "filecuesheet" tag remaining and remove them.
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: redwing on November 24, 2016, 03:33:49 AM
I have cleared up your uploaded files with the same process, and now it shows 7 files for CD 1, 9 files for CD 2 properly.
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: psychoadept on November 24, 2016, 03:37:39 AM
It didn't go real smoothly, but after a few tries of deleting the cue sheets both manually and with remove tags, and restarting MB, I got a single copy of each file in the Inbox.
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: SpeedWeed on November 24, 2016, 03:41:45 AM
Then select all those tracks, go to Tools> Tagging Tools> Remove tags.
And select "remove specific tags", and see if there's "cuesheet" or "filecuesheet" tag remaining and remove them.
Done, but i still have 113 songs repeated. I removed other tags too that werent common but it stayed the same.
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: psychoadept on November 24, 2016, 03:43:37 AM
A) Try hitting F5 (Refresh)
B) Restart MB

I had to remove the cuesheet from every file, use remove tags, AND do the above.
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: SpeedWeed on November 24, 2016, 03:48:24 AM
It didn't go real smoothly, but after a few tries of deleting the cue sheets both manually and with remove tags, and restarting MB, I got a single copy of each file in the Inbox.
Have you heard them? beacuse the song name changes too. You could click on NIB but instead Paranoid would be playing. That happened to me right now, i was left with the original song names but all were playing the same sng even if they had different names.
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: redwing on November 24, 2016, 03:51:52 AM
I just tried it again and there's an easier way. You don't have to remove cuesheet from each file with tag editor at all.
It's all about cuesheet tags. But why does MB keep showing them even when those tags are removed? Because MB's database still keeps the record for those files. To fix this, you need to change file URL so that MB recognizes them as new files.

1. Select all files and go to Tools> Tagging Tools> Remove tags.
And select "remove specific tags" and remove all "cuesheet" or "filecuesheet" tags.

2. Remove those files from MB (only from inbox or library not from computer)

3. Exit MB and move those files to a different folder.

4. Open MB and reimport those files and now the cuesheets are gone.
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: SpeedWeed on November 24, 2016, 04:06:28 AM
I just tried it again and there's an easier way. You don't have to remove cuesheet from each file with tag editor at all.
It's all about cuesheet tags. But why does MB keep showing them even when those tags are removed? Because MB's database still keeps the record for those files. To fix this, you need to change file URL so that MB recognizes them as new files.

1. Select all files and go to Tools> Tagging Tools> Remove tags.
And select "remove specific tags" and remove all "cuesheet" or "filecuesheet" tags.

2. Remove those files from MB (only from inbox or library not from computer)

3. Exit MB and move those files to a different folder.

4. Open MB and reimport those files and now the cuesheets are gone.

Dude i dont know what the hell happened. ok
1.- I dont have any "filecuesheet" to remove.
2.- I did the steps you said 1 song went out of its album (in windows explorer) i put it back in its album added all the songs again to mb and stayed the same number of songs 161 (now i have more).
3.- I tried to remove tags again and now i dont have any "cuesheet" tag to remove. but i still have 161 repeated songs.
Cant really believe i have been all day doing this..
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: redwing on November 24, 2016, 04:09:46 AM
Start from scratch with new files following the steps I mentioned.
Or you could just re-rip the CDs without embedding cuesheets.
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: SpeedWeed on November 24, 2016, 04:11:17 AM
Start from scratch with new files following the steps I mentioned.
Or you could just re-rip the CDs without embedding cuesheets.
  How do i do the second thing? removing the embedding.
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: CritterMan on November 24, 2016, 04:29:21 AM
Depends on the software you're using to rip the CDs. You can use MB to do that. With the disc in the drive and MB open, press Alt+R. Make sure Rip Tracks As is set to File Per Track.
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: SpeedWeed on November 24, 2016, 04:33:55 AM
Depends on the software you're using to rip the CDs. You can use MB to do that. With the disc in the drive and MB open, press Alt+R. Make sure Rip Tracks As is set to File Per Track.
Its not a disc is a .rar archive.  Can i do this with Deamon Tools?
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: CritterMan on November 24, 2016, 04:35:45 AM
I'm guessing torrent?
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: SpeedWeed on November 24, 2016, 04:38:10 AM
I'm guessing torrent?
Actually dont, from some blogs. I even downloaded from different blog pages to see if the files were the problem. But no.
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: CritterMan on November 24, 2016, 04:41:54 AM
The file metadata, stored in the files, is where the problem comes from. You're probably downloading the same files from multiple sites. You'll have to follow the instructions RedWing provided in reply #22 or purchase the music yourself.
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: SpeedWeed on November 24, 2016, 04:57:04 AM
S
The file metadata, stored in the files, is where the problem comes from. You're probably downloading the same files from multiple sites. You'll have to follow the instructions RedWing provided in reply #22 or purchase the music yourself.
So i have to spend 30dollars on 2 disc just to put them on music bee?
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: CritterMan on November 24, 2016, 05:04:32 AM
You'll have to follow the instructions RedWing provided in reply #22...
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: SpeedWeed on November 24, 2016, 05:08:29 AM
You'll have to follow the instructions RedWing provided in reply #22...

rip i have tried several times  :'(
I am goin to try again. i'll come back if anything happens.
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: CritterMan on November 24, 2016, 05:24:28 AM
They worked fine on my end. In this case, you only need to remove cuesheet tags. You may be skipping a step or two, don't be afraid to ask questions if you don't understand a step.
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: redwing on November 24, 2016, 07:20:19 AM
@Steven;

Can you improve MB's handling of cuesheets, either internal or external? In this case, after cuesheet tags get removed from files (or external cuesheet file's deleted), users would expect that the main panel immediately (or with file rescan) shows clean files. But currently removal of tags, file rescan, and relaunching of MB have no effect. You have to change those files' URLs to update MB's db.
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: Steven on November 24, 2016, 08:23:59 PM
for the next v3.1 update, MB will refresh the main panel with the removed cuesheet if you delete an external cuesheet and right click/ Send To/ File Rescan
or you edit the cuesheet in the tag editor and blank it out
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: SpeedWeed on November 24, 2016, 08:37:28 PM
for the next v3.1 update, MB will refresh the main panel with the removed cuesheet if you delete an external cuesheet and right click/ Send To/ File Rescan
or you edit the cuesheet in the tag editor and blank it out
  So until then i follow the second intructions of Redwing right?
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: CritterMan on November 24, 2016, 09:22:11 PM
Yep, that's been independently verified.
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: SpeedWeed on November 24, 2016, 10:03:42 PM
I just tried it again and there's an easier way. You don't have to remove cuesheet from each file with tag editor at all.
It's all about cuesheet tags. But why does MB keep showing them even when those tags are removed? Because MB's database still keeps the record for those files. To fix this, you need to change file URL so that MB recognizes them as new files.

1. Select all files and go to Tools> Tagging Tools> Remove tags.
And select "remove specific tags" and remove all "cuesheet" or "filecuesheet" tags.

2. Remove those files from MB (only from inbox or library not from computer)

3. Exit MB and move those files to a different folder.

4. Open MB and reimport those files and now the cuesheets are gone.

Ok i tried this again this is what happened.
- I slected all the songs an removed the cuesheet tags
-i removed the songs from the library with "delete" button.
-i closed MB
-i mved the folder of the songs to a new folder
-opened MB now i have my whole black sabbath library messed up as some songs are on inbox and the others that are on library are all duplicates.
What i did wrong?
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: CritterMan on November 24, 2016, 10:05:33 PM
Sounds like you already added them to the library. Try removing the entries from the library or, if they've been deleted from that location already, file rescan.
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: SpeedWeed on November 24, 2016, 10:07:45 PM
Sounds like you already added them to the library. Try removing the entries from the library or, if they've been deleted from that location already, file rescan.
What do you mean? also i dont know why but the "iron man" song is moved to another artist to a red carpet and its duplicated like 20 times.
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: CritterMan on November 24, 2016, 10:12:17 PM
I suggest checking the tags on that track specifically, then highlight the entries in your library with issues, right click, send to, file rescan.
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: SpeedWeed on November 24, 2016, 10:15:49 PM
I suggest checking the tags on that track specifically, then highlight the entries in your library with issues, right click, send to, file rescan.
OMG i dont know how but i am almost there i reimported the files to do the thing you said and now 2 albums work great no duplicates. But the last album "Paranoid" doesnt. the song "paranoid" is being duplicated like 5 times but the other songs work great. Now, i have noticed that when i redo remove tags just for that album MB puts paranoid song out of the folder of the other songs (in windows explorer). Any idea?
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: Bee-liever on November 25, 2016, 12:11:00 AM
Now, i have noticed that when i redo remove tags just for that album MB puts paranoid song out of the folder of the other songs (in windows explorer). Any idea?
I'm assuming you have auto-organise turned on and paranoid song now has different tags to the rest of the album.
check with file editor
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: SpeedWeed on November 25, 2016, 12:13:15 AM
Now, i have noticed that when i redo remove tags just for that album MB puts paranoid song out of the folder of the other songs (in windows explorer). Any idea?
I'm assuming you have auto-organise turned on and paranoid song now has different tags to the rest of the album.
check with file editor
So what tags i have to check?
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: SpeedWeed on November 25, 2016, 12:23:59 AM
Ok i managed to fix it. I just moved paranoid back to its folder and i rescanned my library. Welp in the end i dont even know how i did it. Thanks everybody for your help REALLY! it meant a lot to me. One last question is there a way to export this library? so i dont have to do all this again in my other computer?
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: psychoadept on November 25, 2016, 01:03:26 AM
This page should help with that: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Backup_%26_Restore
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: SpeedWeed on November 25, 2016, 02:11:19 AM
It appears i have one more issue.. Everytime I start MB the song "iron man" is being send to inbox with 2 variables "ironman-blacksabbath" and "ironman_1-no artist". Even though i delete them in inbox each time i startup the program adds them. Anyone knows?
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: CritterMan on November 25, 2016, 02:32:10 AM
When they appear: right-click on one, search, locate in windows explorer. That will tell you what is being added be it a file or a cuesheet embedded in a file.
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: redwing on November 25, 2016, 02:38:40 AM
for the next v3.1 update, MB will refresh the main panel with the removed cuesheet if you delete an external cuesheet and right click/ Send To/ File Rescan
or you edit the cuesheet in the tag editor and blank it out

Thanks! I just checked the changes but I think it could improve further to be really useful.

(1) embedded cuesheets

As you said, now clearing cuesheet content via tag editor immediately removes the duplicates from the main panel. But the problem is "Edit cuesheet" button shouldn't show up in tag editor in the first place if the file no longer contains embedded cuesheet, but it still does and the user has to clear up no-longer-existing cuesheets from each file (and those files can be a lot depending on the track count). What I'm suggesting is if the user removes cuesheet tag from files first, the main panel should immediately (or with file rescan) refresh and remove all duplicate files from those removed cuesheets. And tag editor shouldn't show "Edit Cuesheet" button for those files because they don't contain cuesheets any more.

(2) external cuesheets

I can see now removing an external cue file and file rescanning for the file immediately removes cuesheet-generated files from the main panel. But if I re-add the cue file to the same folder and run file rescan, MB doesn't recognize it. What's required additionally is folder rescan. But if it can detect a disappearance of a cue file from the same folder with a simple file rescan, shouldn't it be able to detect an addition of the cue file (with the same name as the music file) as well?
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: SpeedWeed on November 25, 2016, 02:45:12 AM
When they appear: right-click on one, search, locate in windows explorer. That will tell you what is being added be it a file or a cuesheet embedded in a file.
Ok done, but i dont know why that file is being move to a folder called "soundtrack" and disapearing from its original folder. that making it appear on "inbox" instead of library...
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: CritterMan on November 25, 2016, 02:54:41 AM
If it's being moved to a folder, file organization is reading "Soundtrack" from a relevant tag in the file such as the album artist or album tag. When a file appears in the inbox, it means the file hasn't already been added to the library.
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: SpeedWeed on November 25, 2016, 03:01:28 AM
If it's being moved to a folder, file organization is reading "Soundtrack" from a relevant tag in the file such as the album artist or album tag. When a file appears in the inbox, it means the file hasn't already been added to the library.

Thanks mate,, in all this process 2 (ironman being one of them) songs had the tags messed up, i already fix them and everything back to normal. Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: Sofocl on November 26, 2016, 08:24:20 AM
I have a lot of albums with CueSheet and I often encounter similar problems, here are my suggestions; http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=20307.0
 I think it can solve a lot of problems not only with CueSheet.
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: Steven on November 26, 2016, 02:56:50 PM
for the next v3.1 update, i have added a right click/ Remove Cuesheet command to simplify the task of removing a cuesheet
Title: Re: MusicBee creating duplicate files
Post by: redwing on November 27, 2016, 05:19:49 AM
for the next v3.1 update, i have added a right click/ Remove Cuesheet command to simplify the task of removing a cuesheet

That's working great as it immediately updates the main panel properly after removing cuesheets.

But still removing cuesheet tags via "remove tags" command under Tools has no effect on the main panel. Hope you consider my previous requests as it doesn't really make sense MB can't update the track info when it itself removes the tag.