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Title: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: Steven on November 03, 2016, 06:37:59 PM
I plan to make the following changes to auto-playlists:
- when the number of rules exceeds 8, the panel will be scrollable ie. for playlists with a large number of rules, you will no longer be constrained by your screen size
- for nested rules, the current behavior is to always use "and". Sometimes it will be useful to use "or" instead so i plan to add a drop-down for that
- already done was the ability to select multiple library filters
- if there is anything pressing you think needs to be improved with auto-playlists now is a good time to comment
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: phred on November 03, 2016, 07:22:27 PM
I plan to make the following changes to auto-playlists:
- for nested rules, the current behavior is to always use "and". Sometimes it will be useful to use "or" instead so i plan to add a drop-down for that
Excellent! Thanks.
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: Dave Dee on November 03, 2016, 07:52:47 PM
Can the dialog box be made resizable? Best of both worlds then...
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: Steven on November 03, 2016, 08:05:56 PM
Can the dialog box be made resizable? Best of both worlds then...
no i wont do that - the effort involved doesnt make it worthwhile for the benefit


for the above changes i listed:
http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V3_1/MusicBee31_Patched.zip

other auto-playlist requests will still be considered
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: Dave Dee on November 03, 2016, 09:24:09 PM
Ah, my bad. I thought it might be just a tickbox option on the form but having googled it it's quite a fiddly job. Never mind.
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: redwing on November 04, 2016, 02:32:41 AM
There have been several requests (mainly from the former iTunes users) of adding an option to make auto-playlists static. Actually it has two senses:

1. Once a random list of tracks is generated, do not repopulate the list when opened next time (e.g. 5 random tracks of Adele)

http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=7919.0
http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=17982.0
http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=18487.0

2. Do not auto-update the list following the changes of values used in criteria (e.g. Adele tracks with a play count smaller than 5)

http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=13517.0

iTunes defaults to keep the list static for #1 (to regenerate the list, you need to change a rule and change it back) and has an option called "live updating" for #2 for each auto-playlist.

I think at least supporting #1 would be useful to many users. My proposal is to leave auto-playlists dynamic as is and just add an option of "keep the list static" to under "limit to" setting. Then repopulating the list would only require (1) untick the option and (2) open the playlist again.
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: Steven on November 04, 2016, 11:29:29 PM
There have been several requests (mainly from the former iTunes users) of adding an option to make auto-playlists static. Actually it has two senses:

1. Once a random list of tracks is generated, do not repopulate the list when opened next time (e.g. 5 random tracks of Adele)

http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=7919.0
http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=17982.0
http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=18487.0

2. Do not auto-update the list following the changes of values used in criteria (e.g. Adele tracks with a play count smaller than 5)

http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=13517.0

iTunes defaults to keep the list static for #1 (to regenerate the list, you need to change a rule and change it back) and has an option called "live updating" for #2 for each auto-playlist.

I think at least supporting #1 would be useful to many users. My proposal is to leave auto-playlists dynamic as is and just add an option of "keep the list static" to under "limit to" setting. Then repopulating the list would only require (1) untick the option and (2) open the playlist again.
i have added an option to the auto-playlist definition dialog that allows you to disable automatic refresh of the playlist

http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V3_1/MusicBee31_Patched.zip
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: redwing on November 05, 2016, 01:36:52 AM
Thanks for implementing this!

But there's an issue that disabling auto-refresh option does both #1 and #2. For instance, create "5 random tracks of Adele with a play count smaller than 5" with auto-refresh option disabled. If you play one of the tracks and its play count becomes 5, it should disappear from the playlist but it remains. This is not useful because it's working as a static playlist rather than as a static auto-playlist. The two options (for #1 & #2) should be separated if you want to support the both.
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: Steven on November 05, 2016, 10:01:38 AM
the way it behaves now was how i intended but i agree it would be better to always apply the auto-playlist filtering criteria against the static snapshot of the initial files
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: redwing on November 05, 2016, 11:35:59 AM
Yes, the current functionality can be already achieved by exporting a static playlist out of the initial auto-playlist.
What's requested is a hybrid between static and auto-playlist, which can't be achieved now.
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: Steven on November 05, 2016, 12:45:10 PM
http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V3_1/MusicBee31_Patched.zip

note it will now always refresh the playlist when "Save" is clicked in the auto-playlist edit dialog, irrespective of whether the option is enabled
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: redwing on November 05, 2016, 01:11:57 PM
Thanks for the fix!

note it will now always refresh the playlist when "Save" is clicked in the auto-playlist edit dialog, irrespective of whether the option is enabled

Hope you will address that issue. People will be so confused when they want to use this feature.
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: Steven on November 05, 2016, 01:15:40 PM
i did that because i think people will get confused when they change an auto-playlist and it doesnt update the files with any changes.
In any case i wouldnt expect people will quickly learn the behavior.
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: redwing on November 05, 2016, 01:19:44 PM
Are you saying you did that intentionally? Why? It already has "Refresh Now" button.
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: Steven on November 05, 2016, 01:25:18 PM
the "Refresh Now" button is already removed for the next update
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: redwing on November 05, 2016, 02:14:00 PM
i did that because i think people will get confused when they change an auto-playlist and it doesnt update the files with any changes.

I don't understand. Why will people get confused when they have that option disabled?
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: redwing on November 05, 2016, 02:24:47 PM
note it will now always refresh the playlist when "Save" is clicked in the auto-playlist edit dialog, irrespective of whether the option is enabled

Think about it. You have kept a static auto-playlist. One day you open edit dialog to enable auto-export option. When clicking save, the list gets updated even though auto-refresh option is disabled. Is that what you want? If so, why?
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: Steven on November 05, 2016, 03:11:42 PM
if the flag is enabled, i have changed it so the playlist only refreshes if any of the filtering conditions are changed.
Just changing the export option, or view or description wont refresh the playlist. So i have put the refresh button back in.
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: redwing on November 05, 2016, 03:46:43 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: OOmatrixOO on December 13, 2016, 04:43:58 PM
Hi.
Manual refresh for a auto playlist would be very good.
I have an autoplaylist that I syncronize on my smartphone (100 randomly selected titles).
Now it is always updated when I start MusicBee or i look at it. Then the new songs are synchronized again, always if i start MusicBee.

An option to stop the automatic refresh and a manual refresh button would be the solution for me.
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: psychoadept on December 13, 2016, 05:01:34 PM
That's available now.  Download the patch from earlier in the thread.
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: OOmatrixOO on December 13, 2016, 07:30:58 PM
Ive downloaded this patch but that does not work. The list is still updated when restarting MusicBee or i switch to the list. I have unchecked "automatically refresh the matching tracks".
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: redwing on December 15, 2016, 02:33:28 PM
The list is still updated when restarting MusicBee or i switch to the list. I have unchecked "automatically refresh the matching tracks".

I see it keeps updating playlist # order inside the playlist for some reason, but the selected tracks remain the same. If your playlist doesn't work that way, can you post a screenshot of your playlist's configuration dialog?
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: OOmatrixOO on December 17, 2016, 10:48:50 AM
Hi.
This is a test playlist. If i switch between my playlists or close and restart musicbee there are always other songs in this playlist.

(https://abload.de/thumb/screen_20161217_114438essx.png) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=screen_20161217_114438essx.png)
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: Steven on December 17, 2016, 11:10:08 AM
If you look in windows explorer at the MusicBee/Playlists folder, if you locate the file "<playlist name>.xautopf" there should also be a file "<playlist name>.snap" which holds the snapshot.
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: OOmatrixOO on December 17, 2016, 11:17:00 AM
And what can i do with this "<playlist name>.snap" file?
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: Steven on December 17, 2016, 11:18:52 AM
if the file exists and has data then there is no reason for the functionality not to work ie. i wont be able to help you
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: redwing on December 17, 2016, 11:50:56 AM
Hi.
This is a test playlist. If i switch between my playlists or close and restart musicbee there are always other songs in this playlist.

(https://abload.de/thumb/screen_20161217_114438essx.png) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=screen_20161217_114438essx.png)

Just tried the exactly same configuration as yours, and it's working fine for me. No idea why it's not working for you.
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: a2a on December 17, 2016, 06:08:51 PM
Redwig, thank you for digging out my post before to put it forward for consideration as an application enhancement. Also for responding to my thread (http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=17982.0) and pointing us here. I was unaware of this post since nothing happened on my old post.

Anyhow, thank you to Steven for taking on board our comments and factoring this in to the build.

I've downloaded the patched files enclosed in this post and given this a shot.

For me, it's not giving me the results I was looking to see. It doesn't seem to 'live update', which is what I'd like to see once a condition for the track in the smart playlist has met e.g. genere = dance, play count < 1.

Once a song has played in the list, it just sits there, even though the track has finished; for me, it should disappear and be replaced by another?

I also personally think that there should be no need to have a checkbox to say autorefresh the list, I think this is how they should work. They're generated based on certain criteria then until that's met they refresh, it doesn't make sense for tracks to disappear if you accidentally come out of its view and go back only to find you haven't even played it.
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: a2a on December 17, 2016, 10:11:39 PM
I've also noticed that when returning to the smart playlist view, MB is shuffling the order of its songs? A song that I was playing - let's say second in a list of 5 - then appeared as the 4th in the list as opposed to its original position i.e. second in the list.
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: OOmatrixOO on December 18, 2016, 05:54:56 PM
I make a fresh installation of musicbee and now its works. But there is the problem with the track order what a2a wrote.
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: Steven on December 18, 2016, 07:23:22 PM
This should stop the playlist re-sorting:
http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V3_1/MusicBee31_Patched.zip

unzip and replace the existing musicbee files
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: OOmatrixOO on December 18, 2016, 07:50:03 PM
Thank you Steven. Your patch fix the problem.
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: a2a on December 18, 2016, 07:58:37 PM
Any consideration for 'live updating', for me this is what's needed to keep the list smart..?
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: a2a on March 02, 2017, 04:38:58 PM
Auto-playlists keep changing and re-populating with different tracks/material every time you move away from the playlist.

Thought the experience was to be once the playlist is based on your criteria is does not change until the tracks it presents you with has their criteria changed?

For example, a test playlist with "genre = dance" & "playcount <1" - limited to 3 tracks only; MusicBee gives me 3 tracks, but if you move off the list and come back to it, the list is entirely different.

Also, even just staying on the list and playing a track to its end, the list then does not update with a new track given the playcount has changed to 1 and thus not fitting of said auto-playlist criteria?

Running Musicbee v3.1.6266
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: Steven on March 02, 2017, 05:25:36 PM
disabling of automatic refresh is already supported in v3.1 as an option on the auto-playlist definition
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: a2a on March 02, 2017, 05:48:44 PM
Yes, but if you disable auto-refresh, then there is no way for your auto-playlist to dynamically update once a track's criteria expire from it.

If you create an auto-playlist with auto-refresh disabled, all it does it generate a one-off list for you that then becomes static. The only way to get new tracks within it is to manually 'refresh' it from within the list.

It's frustrating and makes no sense when you configure it otherwise, only to navigate away from the list and come back and it's all changed again. I don't see how it's really usable?  :-\

The auto-playlist's don't 'live-update' on their own. If you move away from the list the entire contents change and if you turn off "automatic refresh" the tracks do not change  :( ?
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: Freddy Barker on March 03, 2017, 03:25:01 PM
disabling of automatic refresh is already supported in v3.1 as an option on the auto-playlist definition


Hi Steven and all MB fans...

If we were voting on Auto-Playlist functionality, then my own preference would be for a real-time dynamic updating playlist.
Maybe as a separate entity from the current 'click to update' offerings??

So, for example, a playlist of 25 tracks, configured "not played in the last 50 days", as each track has finished playing, it pops out of from the top of the visible playlist and a new random track is added to the bottom...

Cheers and thanks very much for all your work and expertise  ;D
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: GermanKiwi on March 04, 2017, 07:06:20 PM
Hi, I would like to request or suggest the following for the auto-playlist functionality:

1) When "Export static copy" is selected, it would be nice to be able to specify the sorting order in the exported copy. Currently I find that the sorting order is sometimes random, whereas I'd like to be able to sort the entries in the playlist alphabetically by filename. Perhaps a new setting which lets me choose which column or field to sort by, would be nice.

2) Currently in Preferences > Library, there are settings to control the path for exported playlists, whether relative paths are used, and mapping base file paths. I'd love to be able to override those default settings on a per-playlist basis. Sometimes I have an auto-playlist that I want to have exported to a static copy in a different location, or without relative paths, or whatever.

3) When "use relative paths" is enabled in the Preferences, and the static playlist is exported to the same folder as the source MP3 files, the playlist starts each line with:
    .\
I'd prefer that in this situation, each line would start directly with the file name, and not including the redundant .\

Thanks!
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: a2a on March 06, 2017, 04:00:31 PM
disabling of automatic refresh is already supported in v3.1 as an option on the auto-playlist definition


Hi Steven and all MB fans...

If we were voting on Auto-Playlist functionality, then my own preference would be for a real-time dynamic updating playlist.
Maybe as a separate entity from the current 'click to update' offerings??

So, for example, a playlist of 25 tracks, configured "not played in the last 50 days", as each track has finished playing, it pops out of from the top of the visible playlist and a new random track is added to the bottom...

Cheers and thanks very much for all your work and expertise  ;D


Agreed - this is exactly what I'd love to have within the app.:

Any consideration for 'live updating', for me this is what's needed to keep the list smart..?



If MB would update the track only after its criteria has expired; this is how a smart playlist should operate in my opinion.
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: a2a on March 08, 2017, 10:28:57 AM
Please could this be considered? Thank you :)
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: Steven on March 14, 2017, 07:31:52 PM
For auto-playlists in MB, by default they always refresh as soon as files are edited/ added/ removed from the library and when a play count/ rating etc changes. If thats not the case can someone provide me an example auto-playlist is not refreshing on a live basis.

For v3.1 an option was provided so MB takes a once only snapshot of an auto-playlist and preserves the files and sorting. Its mainly intended from my point of view to preserve files in auto-playlists that have a random aspect to selection/ sorting. As of now the snapshot doesnt update but i think there is an argument to say that if a file no longer meets the non-random parts of the selection criteria eg. rating < 3 and now the files' rating is 4 then the file should be removed from the snapshot but let me know if you disagree

edit: actually there was a bug with live refreshing. This should fix it:

http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V3_1/MusicBee31_Patched.zip
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: psychoadept on March 14, 2017, 10:58:43 PM
I'm good with that change
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: a2a on March 16, 2017, 03:35:25 PM
For auto-playlists in MB, by default they always refresh as soon as files are edited/ added/ removed from the library and when a play count/ rating etc changes. If thats not the case can someone provide me an example auto-playlist is not refreshing on a live basis.

For v3.1 an option was provided so MB takes a once only snapshot of an auto-playlist and preserves the files and sorting. Its mainly intended from my point of view to preserve files in auto-playlists that have a random aspect to selection/ sorting. As of now the snapshot doesnt update but i think there is an argument to say that if a file no longer meets the non-random parts of the selection criteria eg. rating < 3 and now the files' rating is 4 then the file should be removed from the snapshot but let me know if you disagree

edit: actually there was a bug with live refreshing. This should fix it:

http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V3_1/MusicBee31_Patched.zip

What I'm experiencing is that an auto-playlist keeps changing its contents every single time you move away from the list. I generate a list based on particular criteria and then move to e.g. "now playing". For whatever reason I return to the playlist and see all the contents are different. I just cannot comprehend that behaviour; because now, what is loaded in the player and what the auto-playlist is showing me is totally different.

What I strongly think should be the case is that that list remains 'as it was generated' until the tracks inside of it no longer meet the criteria. Examples have been stated above, but essentially, if one sets a criteria and a track no longer meets that it should dynamically disappear from the list and a new track is added in its place: it is just like the iTunes "Smart Playlist" type behaviour.

If I uncheck "automatically refresh the matching tracks" and listen to a track in the list that has e.g. "not played in the last day" the list does not then remove that track; it stays there despite having a play count of 1, today. In iTunes, that tracks disappears from the list and is replaced with another track that meets the playlist criteria.

So in MB, you generate your auto-playlist - it gives your results. But you move away from that list and return only to find all of those tracks are entirely different, just doesn't make sense? Have also used the latest patch as linked above and find it doesn't work?
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: theta_wave on March 18, 2017, 08:51:37 AM
Static autoplayists is such a terrible idea.  If one uses itunes, jriver media center or mediamonkey, the behavior in those programs is that smart/autoplayists automatically refresh, hence their name.  Now, adding a new Jazz album doesn't show up in my Jazz autoplaylist like it did last week.  Please revert back to the long-held standards set forth by those programs and their ilk.  If a user wants autoplaylists to have customized behavior that is entirely different from the norms set by those and other music managers, let them set it themselves rather than making it as the default for everyone.  Or better, said user can simply export the auto-playlist as a STATIC playlist if so desired.

This was a nasty surprise and I'm mad at myself for catching this just now and not disabusing this idea earlier.  Now, a user has to manually edit each xautopf to include "LiveUpdating="True"" (392 xautopf's for me) to re-establish traditional and expected behavior for autoplayists in MB. >:(

EDIT: Actually, I made this post in light of a bug in 6284 concerning old autoplaylists created in 3.0 (99.9% of mine) where previously dynamic autoplaylists are now defaulted to static autoplayists: http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=21340.0

EDIT 2: Basically, the old autoplaylists didn't have 'LiveUpdating' in the second line of their associated xautopf settings, so the bug treated that omission as 'LiveUpdating="False"' and created .snap playlists en masse (391 .snap's, ~85MB total).  This bug has been corrected in 6286 and the superfluous .snap files automatically removed.

That doesn't change my mind of having an option of static autoplaylists since the solution to that is simply exporting a static playlist from the autoplaylist at the desired time.  Having an option for static autoplaylist will simply confuse users in the future.  I don't see why people would want to shoe-horn static playlist behavior into autoplaylists.
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: Steven on March 18, 2017, 09:14:20 AM
This was a nasty surprise and I'm mad at myself for catching this just now and not disabusing this idea earlier.  Now, a user has to manually edit each xautopf to include "LiveUpdating="True"" (392 xautopf's for me) to re-establish traditional and expected behavior for autoplayists in MB. >:(
you dont need to update them all, only the ones that were saved with .snap files
I will fix the bug with the incorrect defaulting of that setting later today
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: theta_wave on March 18, 2017, 09:37:57 AM
you dont need to update them all, only the ones that were saved with .snap files
I will fix the bug with the incorrect defaulting of that setting later today
Yes, I now realize this was a bug.  The 391 .snap files I just deleted took up 86MB in my playlist directory.  Thank you for responding to my bug post so quickly.  I appreciate it.
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: a2a on March 18, 2017, 11:46:09 AM
Quote: "If one uses itunes, jriver media center or mediamonkey, the behavior in those programs is that smart/autoplayists automatically refresh, hence their name."

Steven, please could we just have the application behaviour to that of iTunes' smart play list?
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: theta_wave on March 18, 2017, 06:41:49 PM
Quote: "If one uses itunes, jriver media center or mediamonkey, the behavior in those programs is that smart/autoplayists automatically refresh, hence their name."

Steven, please could we just have the application behaviour to that of iTunes' smart play list?
Well, the latest 6286 patch now defaults to the standard auto-refreshing autoplaylists for old MB autoplaylists that do not have 'LiveUpdating="True"' in the second line of the associated xautopf file.  Before the patch, there was a bug that treated the omission of 'LiveUpdating' (in all autoplaylists created during MB v3.0) as LiveUpdating="False".  But hey, those of us who frequently update to the latest MB patch are beta testers after all.  Thankfully, MB has largely been pretty stable on my machine, and I hope for others as well.
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: a2a on May 02, 2017, 07:47:28 PM
Quote: "If one uses itunes, jriver media center or mediamonkey, the behavior in those programs is that smart/autoplayists automatically refresh, hence their name."

Steven, please could we just have the application behaviour to that of iTunes' smart play list?

This experience is all that's missing to make my Auto Playlists perfection, could I kindly and respectfully ask for this to be considered please? Thank you :)
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: VolkerS on October 29, 2019, 06:15:16 PM
Quote: "If one uses itunes, jriver media center or mediamonkey, the behavior in those programs is that smart/autoplayists automatically refresh, hence their name."

Steven, please could we just have the application behaviour to that of iTunes' smart play list?

This experience is all that's missing to make my Auto Playlists perfection, could I kindly and respectfully ask for this to be considered please? Thank you :)

I also vote for this change!

MB looks so perfect for me, but this little thing unfortunately disturbs the picture. Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: Steven on October 29, 2019, 06:35:11 PM
The request was implemented but there was a bug in some cases where it didnt work. Its fixed in the soon to be released version available on the first forum topic
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: VolkerS on October 29, 2019, 07:54:08 PM
Oh, thanks for the info! Sounds great!  :)
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: namrustler on October 31, 2019, 06:58:40 PM
If you have an Auto-Playlist where both automatic refresh and automatic export a static copy are enabled, then should Shuffle List result in the static copy being refreshed, and hence re-randomized?.

For me the static copy does get updated in 3.3.7165.
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: Steven on October 31, 2019, 09:18:35 PM
If you have an Auto-Playlist where both automatic refresh and automatic export a static copy are enabled, then should Shuffle List result in the static copy being refreshed, and hence re-randomized?.

For me the static copy does get updated in 3.3.7165.

The request was implemented but there was a bug in some cases where it didnt work. Its fixed in the soon to be released version available on the first forum topic
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: namrustler on October 31, 2019, 09:35:16 PM
Thanks.

Has anyone ever asked about adding an option to both shuffle a static list and update the play order in a single option from the context menu?
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: namrustler on October 31, 2019, 10:49:39 PM
I downloaded the new version and created an Auto Playlist. Shuffle mode is random, selection by track, and both automatic refresh and automatic export are selected. However, shuffling the list did not update the exported M3U file, but sorting the list by any any of the columns did.

The only rule is to match songs that are in a static playlist. This may seem silly, but the sole reason for doing this is to be able to shuffle my playlists with minimum action. Shuffling a static playlist requires selecting two options from the context menu (shuffle, followed by update).

If I create a static playlist, and then an auto playlist based on membership in the static playlist, I was hoping to just shuffle the list and then the exported list would be re-randomized.

Am I missing something?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Auto-playlist changes
Post by: Blast Wave on November 15, 2019, 07:11:28 PM
Hy all!

I suggest to add a button "collapse/expand all subfolders/folders" in the auto-playlist --> folder settings, beacuse its a pain to click the little arrows or hit the key every time I want to clean the tree view a little.
https://imgur.com/digk4or
https://imgur.com/wapZ9GU