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General => MusicBee Wishlist => Topic started by: kuchhai on October 26, 2016, 09:37:08 PM

Title: "Sort by" feature in column browser and thumbnail browser
Post by: kuchhai on October 26, 2016, 09:37:08 PM
It will be great if the "sort by" function used in the main panel - in which I can use the <artistsort> to arrange the artists but display them with <artist> - can be implemented in the column browser and thumbnail browser.

(http://i.imgur.com/IStSFXR.png)
The three foreign artists' names begin with D, F and Ka respectively so they appear before Ki.

Previously I used quodlibet, and the browser automatically sorts by <artistsort> and it was extremely useful. Currently in Musicbee artists with non-Latin characters appear after all the Latin characters, and appears to be sorted by character stroke which is confusing.

Hopeful that this can be implemented since the main panel has this feature with no issues. :) (I currently sort by albumartistsort - artistsort in the main panel.)

Many many thanks in advance! *crosses fingers*
Title: Re: "Sort by" feature in column browser and thumbnail browser
Post by: psychoadept on October 26, 2016, 09:58:16 PM
+1
Title: Re: "Sort by" feature in column browser and thumbnail browser
Post by: gyulnew on December 22, 2020, 09:52:42 PM
+1
Title: Re: "Sort by" feature in column browser and thumbnail browser
Post by: The Incredible Boom Boom on December 22, 2020, 10:21:13 PM
Sorry to hijack, but you display by one criterion, but sort by another in the main panel? How?

I'm using the Artist view, grouping by <Sort Artist> and First Letter. I'd like to keep displaying, for example, 絢香, but be able to type "Ayaka" to jump to her.

I'll even +1 this if someone can help me figure it out! Lol
Title: Re: "Sort by" feature in column browser and thumbnail browser
Post by: psychoadept on December 24, 2020, 02:56:51 AM
This particular request was implemented by the custom sorting feature. (This thread is 4 years old.)

Does that not work the way you describe? I have, for instance, Isao Tomita sorted by letter but displayed in the native script. (Not at my computer or I'd copy it)
Title: Re: "Sort by" feature in column browser and thumbnail browser
Post by: The Incredible Boom Boom on December 24, 2020, 08:03:27 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/44sPl65.png)

This is what it currently looks like. My understanding of the original post is that I can continue displaying the Japanese characters, but get her to sort under "A?"
Title: Re: "Sort by" feature in column browser and thumbnail browser
Post by: psychoadept on December 25, 2020, 04:54:01 PM
What do you have in the sorting tab?
Title: Re: "Sort by" feature in column browser and thumbnail browser
Post by: The Incredible Boom Boom on December 26, 2020, 03:42:34 AM
Quote from: psychoadept on December 25, 2020, 04:54:01 PM
What do you have in the sorting tab?

Code
album artist: 絢香
sort as: 絢香 (not using, so grayed out)

artist: 絢香
sort as: 絢香

I might not be able to achieve what I want, because, like I said, I (have to) group by <Sort Artist> as my Main Panel view. I can't group by <Artist> (will split up albums all over the place) or <Album Artist> (would move multiple album artist albums to a separate panel)

Title: Re: "Sort by" feature in column browser and thumbnail browser
Post by: psychoadept on December 26, 2020, 04:03:29 AM
But what happens if you put the latin script artist name in sort artist?
Title: Re: "Sort by" feature in column browser and thumbnail browser
Post by: The Incredible Boom Boom on December 26, 2020, 04:15:17 AM
If I put "Ayaka" under the artist "sort as," it displays and sorts as "Ayaka."
Title: Re: "Sort by" feature in column browser and thumbnail browser
Post by: Steven on December 26, 2020, 07:02:12 AM
Just display Album Artist instead of Sort Album Artist and enable custom sorting where you assign the Sort Album Artist tag as appropriate
Title: Re: "Sort by" feature in column browser and thumbnail browser
Post by: The Incredible Boom Boom on May 13, 2021, 05:17:42 PM
Quote from: psychoadept on December 26, 2020, 04:03:29 AM
But what happens if you put the latin script artist name in sort artist?

Quote from: Steven on December 26, 2020, 07:02:12 AM
Just display Album Artist instead of Sort Album Artist and enable custom sorting where you assign the Sort Album Artist tag as appropriate

I just figured out how to use the Custom Sort Order feature properly!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For years, artists have been added and cluttered up the grid, but I jumped off into the deep end yesterday night and CTRL + A -> DEL them all. (This was the key reason why I have always been hesitant to open that window.)
Checked my panel and nothing had changed (good!) Next, I added only Japanese artists and their romanized names and...
...success!

I'm geeked af about finally being able to quickly key tap to Japanese artists!  :)  ;D
Now I can go about ordering other artists with non-Roman characters in their names!
Title: Re: "Sort by" feature in column browser and thumbnail browser
Post by: hiccup on May 13, 2021, 05:40:36 PM
Quote from: The Incredible Boom Boom on May 13, 2021, 05:17:42 PM
Now I can go about ordering other artists with non-Roman characters in their names!
Maybe you already know this and are doing it, but I thought to mention you can automate that with Picard and some scripting.
(for releases that are known and entered correctly that is)

(https://i.imgur.com/INWAUP5m.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/INWAUP5.png)
Title: Re: "Sort by" feature in column browser and thumbnail browser
Post by: The Incredible Boom Boom on May 16, 2021, 10:53:13 PM
Quote from: hiccup on May 13, 2021, 05:40:36 PM
Quote from: The Incredible Boom Boom on May 13, 2021, 05:17:42 PM
Now I can go about ordering other artists with non-Roman characters in their names!
Maybe you already know this and are doing it, but I thought to mention you can automate that with Picard and some scripting.
(for releases that are known and entered correctly that is)

(https://i.imgur.com/INWAUP5m.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/INWAUP5.png)

How did you bring up that particular window (in Picard, I presume?)
My only question is would this display names in their original script with "Group by <Sort Artist>" option under the Artists view?
My <Sort Artist> tags are still in their original language, but they're now sorted according to the Latin alphabet.
Title: Re: "Sort by" feature in column browser and thumbnail browser
Post by: hiccup on May 17, 2021, 08:06:23 AM
Quote from: The Incredible Boom Boom on May 16, 2021, 10:53:13 PM
How did you bring up that particular window (in Picard, I presume?)
It's the View Script Variables plugin. It shows all available variables, including the _hidden ones.

To get all the extra artists variables from the screenshot available, you need to activate the Additional Artists Variables plugin.

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My <Sort Artist> tags are still in their original language, but they're now sorted according to the Latin alphabet.
Ok, sounds strange, but I am no expert in using non-latin characters.

I only brought this suggestion up to show that it is possible with Picard to retrieve both original script and romanized version for many artists.
With scripting you can then decide what variable(s) from Picard you want to use to populate tags for use in MusicBee.
Title: Re: "Sort by" feature in column browser and thumbnail browser
Post by: The Incredible Boom Boom on May 17, 2021, 06:16:23 PM
Quote from: hiccup on May 17, 2021, 08:06:23 AM
It's the View Script Variables plugin. It shows all available variables, including the _hidden ones.

To get all the extra artists variables from the screenshot available, you need to activate the Additional Artists Variables plugin.

Ok, sounds strange, but I am no expert in using non-latin characters.

I only brought this suggestion up to show that it is possible with Picard to retrieve both original script and romanized version for many artists.
With scripting you can then decide what variable(s) from Picard you want to use to populate tags for use in MusicBee.

I'll check this plug-in out.
Thanks for advising it...
...or should I curse you for giving me more possible work!?
Title: Re: "Sort by" feature in column browser and thumbnail browser
Post by: hiccup on May 17, 2021, 06:21:27 PM
Quote from: The Incredible Boom Boom on May 17, 2021, 06:16:23 PM
...or should I curse you for giving me more possible work!?
You can curse me later.
After you put in the work, and then find that it doesn't benefit your workflow and the results at all.