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Title: MusicBee chapter support (m4a, m4b, ect.)
Post by: holer on April 13, 2016, 11:11:04 PM
Hello,

I have been using MusicBee for year and never had any issues (that I couldn't readily fix). That is, until I tried getting MusicBee to recognize chapters enbedded in m4a metadata.

There are three things I'd like to accomplish:

1) When playing a track with chapters (or bookmarks) then display the current chapter name in the 'Track Details' panel.

2) Being able to skip to next chapter. Preferably by using a hotkey.

3) Display each chapter as a separate song in the Library.

All the above features are supported by a range of other music players (that in many other ways are inferior to MB) . In more detail I'm downloading EDM Livesets for offline use. As there is no reason to play an mp4-file (video) everytime I listen to a song I've written a Python script to convert the mp4 files to m4a. I've also added functionality for the script to download tracklists and convert these to chapters, which then are added to the metadata of the final m4a file.

The chapters of the m4a file is recognized in VLC, iTunes, and AIMP, but sadly not in MusicBee. Any suggestions on how to approach this problem is appreciated!

Thanks!
Title: Re: MusicBee chapter support (m4a, m4b, ect.)
Post by: Steven on April 14, 2016, 10:10:17 AM
MB doesnt have m4a chapter support but if you send me a link to a ZIP of one of the files i will have a look at this for v3.1
Title: Re: MusicBee chapter support (m4a, m4b, ect.)
Post by: holer on April 14, 2016, 11:14:33 AM
Lovely! Thanks for the quick reply. I have uploaded two files:

The first zip-file (https://www.dropbox.com/s/sn7jvvu9k44y1hb/MusicBeeChapters-AudioOnly.zip?dl=0) contains only the audio and a text document with the metadata.

The second zip-file (https://www.dropbox.com/s/0jrtvrrttmdxpfl/MusicBeeChapters.zip?dl=0) contains everything needed to create the audio file. This includes the original mp4-file, converters, and the Python script used (However, MP4Box needs to be installed in order to actually use the script).

Further I'd like to request that when playing an m4a-file with chapters then the chapter time-stamps should be shown on the player control 'timebar' (the bar the displays how much of a song has been played). This automatically happens when playing the file in VLC.
Title: Re: MusicBee chapter support (m4a, m4b, ect.)
Post by: Steven on April 14, 2016, 07:22:17 PM
i will have a look at the chapter support probably in a months time
Title: Re: MusicBee chapter support (m4a, m4b, ect.)
Post by: Steven on May 02, 2016, 05:24:37 PM
this is now done for v3.1 but i dont expect to make v3.1 available for a few weeks.
The way MB implements chapters (the functionality already exists for MPC files and cuesheets) is the single physical file gets split into multiple virtual files, each corresponding to chapter or cuesheet track. That way the virtual files can be shuffled or specific chapters added to a playlist like any normal file. So when a chapter plays you see the duration for the chapter only.
Having said all that, i may enhance the handling for MPC and M4A chapters so it loads as a single file and the chapter only shows the text and suration in the player panel when each chapter is active.
Title: Re: MusicBee chapter support (m4a, m4b, ect.)
Post by: wishingstar on September 21, 2017, 09:07:35 AM
Hello Steven,

I use MusicBee mainly for audiobooks, and I just downloaded the newest version (3.1.6466). How do I turn on this feature, since it doesn't seem to be on by default?

Also, I remember reading somewhere on this forum that 3.1 will have the option to display time for audiobooks is Hours:Min:Sec instead of just Min:Sec, is that also implemented in 3.1?

Thanks!
Title: Re: MusicBee chapter support (m4a, m4b, ect.)
Post by: Steven on September 21, 2017, 09:24:16 AM
it only works with downloaded files. You might need to rescan files downloaded before v3.1. Right click/ Send To/ Rescan files

if its still not working, can you zip one of the files and PM me a link
Title: Re: MusicBee chapter support (m4a, m4b, ect.)
Post by: wishingstar on September 22, 2017, 02:38:49 AM
Thank you for the quick response Steven :)

Here's what I did so far:

1- Cleared the audiobooks from MusicBee
2- Added one m4b audiobook from a local drive
Result: No Change, file shows up as a single track (no chapters) and time shows up in min:sec
3- I uninstalled MusicBee completely, then deleted MusicBee folder under C:\AppData\Roaming and C:\Program Files (x86)
4- Reinstalled MusicBee 3.1
5- Added same m4b audiobook again.
Result: for some reason, this was added to the music tab, and I wasn't able to drag+drop, perhaps due to loss of my preferences.
Time shows up in hr:min:sec (yay!  8) )
Still shows up as a single track (no chapters)  :(
6- Just to check, I dropped the same m4b file into Chapter and Verse to make sure it does have chapters, C&V showed 72 chapters in the audiobook. If there's a preference in MusicBee that makes chapters show up, I can't find it.

-WS
Title: Re: MusicBee chapter support (m4a, m4b, ect.)
Post by: Steven on September 22, 2017, 06:56:32 AM
if its still not working, can you zip one of the files and PM me a link
Title: Re: MusicBee chapter support (m4a, m4b, ect.)
Post by: Steven on September 22, 2017, 06:51:26 PM
Thanks for sending the file. I have no issues with MB showing chapters for that file.
In case this is just misunderstanding of what MB does, MB doesnt split the file into chapters in the Playing Tracks panel - the chapters are only displayed in the player controls panel as the playback progresses
Title: Re: MusicBee chapter support (m4a, m4b, ect.)
Post by: wishingstar on September 23, 2017, 01:13:10 AM
Ah! That's my bad then :) I expected to see a chapter list in the main window and/or playlist. The chapters do show up above the player controls.
Title: Re: MusicBee chapter support (m4a, m4b, ect.)
Post by: hedgehog90 on August 01, 2018, 01:12:23 PM
I'm currently using Musicbee 3.2.6735 and I have lots of issues importing m4b.
If I ctrl+drag an audiobook m4b into an audiobooks tab, it doesn't copy over, even though I have auto-reorganize enabled for audiobooks on that harddrive. Also it doesn't divide it into chapters, it just shows one very long track.
I have to ctrl+drag it into a music tab, then I have to drag that item into audiobooks. This is the only way to get it to copy and get it to display individual chapters as separate tracks.
However, if I then right click the audio book, send to -> File Rescan, it removes all the chapters and shows as one big file without chapters.
Title: Re: MusicBee chapter support (m4a, m4b, ect.)
Post by: Steven on August 01, 2018, 09:31:04 PM
I'm currently using Musicbee 3.2.6735 and I have lots of issues importing m4b.
If I ctrl+drag an audiobook m4b into an audiobooks tab, it doesn't copy over, even though I have auto-reorganize enabled for audiobooks on that harddrive. Also it doesn't divide it into chapters, it just shows one very long track.
I have to ctrl+drag it into a music tab, then I have to drag that item into audiobooks. This is the only way to get it to copy and get it to display individual chapters as separate tracks.
However, if I then right click the audio book, send to -> File Rescan, it removes all the chapters and shows as one big file without chapters.
could you send me a link to a zip of one m4b file you are having problems with

also could you post a screenshot of the library auto-organise settings dialog
Title: Re: MusicBee chapter support (m4a, m4b, ect.)
Post by: hedgehog90 on August 17, 2018, 12:15:58 PM
Sorry for the delay.

I uploaded the shortest audiobook I own:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pOUMfsVgFk4-Gr9HuinE8IG4fDRk27c2/view?usp=sharing

I've tried adding C:\ to auto organize audiobooks but it makes no difference.

(https://i.imgur.com/O3lm51g.png)
Title: Re: MusicBee chapter support (m4a, m4b, ect.)
Post by: Steven on August 17, 2018, 06:20:00 PM
The file you sent doesnt have a disc or track number and hence will report missing tags in the file organiser. The file organiser doesnt split the single file into multiple files for each chapter.
The chapters display in the player panel as expected ie. everything is as i would expect
Title: Re: MusicBee chapter support (m4a, m4b, ect.)
Post by: hedgehog90 on August 24, 2018, 05:03:22 PM
Yes, it displays the chapter in the player track text if I seek to different parts of the audio, but the problem is that while chapters display as individual tracks at first (if I drag them into music and then into audiobooks), as soon as I do a file rescan or if I drag an m4b directly into audiobooks, it reverts to one enormous track.
The audiobook I uploaded has 22 chapters, it's very difficult (and tedious) to navigate to the chapter I was last listening to when it displays as a single track.

So this:

(https://i.imgur.com/RbToZs0.png)

Becomes this:

(https://i.imgur.com/GX1bX2v.png)
Title: Re: MusicBee chapter support (m4a, m4b, ect.)
Post by: eturk on January 26, 2020, 12:38:39 AM
any advancements on displaying chapters of audiobooks?

I'm not seeing where we could see a chapter name & how to skip to a given chapter. The scrolling title above the progress bar as it plays show the name of the first chapter no matter when in the progress.



P.S. I also see, the first time I drop an m4b file on Audiobooks, all the chapters in the track list (as shown above). But when I reopen MB it's one track.
Title: Re: MusicBee chapter support (m4a, m4b, ect.)
Post by: thrikulam on August 25, 2020, 07:38:54 PM
Am I doing something wrong? My MusicBee isn't showing chapters at all, unlike the images in the OP above. I just got this app today and I'm loving it so far.
Title: Re: MusicBee chapter support (m4a, m4b, ect.)
Post by: Steven on August 26, 2020, 09:40:57 AM
Chapters (as opposed to cuesheets) only show in the player controls panel - as the progress bar moves the display title changes as the chapter changes.
Cuesheets split a single file into multiple logical files that appear in the main panel
Title: Re: MusicBee chapter support (m4a, m4b, ect.)
Post by: thrikulam on August 26, 2020, 03:10:02 PM
Thank you Steven, I see that now.

I think I see where I was confused. When I try to skip to the next chapter, it doesn't go to the correct timestamp. This doesn't happen in Foobar (but Foobar also has issues with bookmarking). This audiobook has a cue file.

I understand that you get a million requests a day so I'm not so worried about the issue, but let me know if you want me to upload and send to you.
Title: Re: MusicBee chapter support (m4a, m4b, ect.)
Post by: Steven on August 26, 2020, 10:52:03 PM
if you send a zip of the file i will have a look
Title: Re: MusicBee chapter support (m4a, m4b, ect.)
Post by: thrikulam on August 27, 2020, 09:42:49 PM
Hi Steven, there you go

edit:
link removed
Title: Re: MusicBee chapter support (m4a, m4b, ect.)
Post by: Steven on August 29, 2020, 01:29:25 AM
I think I see where I was confused. When I try to skip to the next chapter, it doesn't go to the correct timestamp. This doesn't happen in Foobar (but Foobar also has issues with bookmarking). This audiobook has a cue file.
MB is using the embedded chapter info in preference to the cuesheet, however for that file there is an issue with the timescale used.
This should fix the problem:
https://getmusicbee.com/patches/MusicBee33_Patched.zip
unzip and replace the existing musicbee application files.

You will need to right click/ Send To/ Rescan Files for the file you sent
Title: Re: MusicBee chapter support (m4a, m4b, ect.)
Post by: thrikulam on August 29, 2020, 01:33:29 AM
You are a national treasure, I didn't expect you to go so far. I sent you a donation. Thanks again!