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Title: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on March 01, 2016, 02:51:37 PM
Why is the "show album artwork" option for the mini player grayed out in preferences?  I mean, are there any conditions that would cause it NOT to be grayed out?  And if not, why is it there?
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: Steven on March 01, 2016, 05:48:04 PM
its there for information purposes and cant be deselected ie. its there to indicate the wide layout includes artwork
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on March 03, 2016, 06:29:03 AM
Is "check for updates on startup" actually doing anything?
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: Steven on March 03, 2016, 08:21:02 AM
yes, it checks the musicbee version against the last publicly released version and if the musicbee version is older then MB prompts the user to update
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on March 04, 2016, 07:33:00 AM
Thanks, that makes sense.

Next question: does the naming template for album art in Tags (1) support a folder structure, or only a filename?  (ie could you have an album art storage template like "<Artist>\<Album>.jpg")
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: Bee-liever on March 04, 2016, 11:18:38 AM
does the naming template for album art in Tags (1) support a folder structure, or only a filename?  (ie could you have an album art storage template like "<Artist>\<Album>.jpg")

yep, but remember that MB only looks 1 sub-folder down; eg.
Code
\Linked Art\$If($Or($Or($First(<Grouping>)="Single [45]",$First(<Grouping>)="Single [78rpm]"),$First(<Grouping>)="Single [12in]"),$Split(<Album>," · ",1)_track<Track#>,<Album>"_Album Cover")
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on March 05, 2016, 11:15:15 PM
yep, but remember that MB only looks 1 sub-folder down; eg.
Code
\Linked Art\$If($Or($Or($First(<Grouping>)="Single [45]",$First(<Grouping>)="Single [78rpm]"),$First(<Grouping>)="Single [12in]"),$Split(<Album>," · ",1)_track<Track#>,<Album>"_Album Cover")

Thanks, I added that.
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on March 06, 2016, 05:37:43 PM
Under what circumstances do "two-way syncing" (for devices) and "scrobble tracks played on portable devices" (from the last.fm plugin) actually work?
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: Steven on March 06, 2016, 06:43:48 PM
2 way synching to work the device needs to support querying of rating and playcounts from the device database:
- for some ipods, MB is able to extract the rating and for those devices can synch the rating back
- for MTP devices, the MTP database does have a field for rating and for play count. However in practice i have yet to see it being used by the android players. So until that happens 2-way synch wont do anything
- and although MB is able to scrobble the difference in play count, in practice that wont do anything either
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on March 11, 2016, 06:02:47 AM
Is this a correct summary of the status of views? (Apologies for wiki markup)

All nodes and playlists start out with a version of Tracks View. Nodes of the library (everything listed under "navigation tabs" in [[Layout (1)]]) will remember their view settings (which view, displayed fields, sort order, etc) separately.  Changes made in one node will not affect another - with the exception that if you configure any of them to use a specific {{In|Custom View}}, then all nodes using that view will remain in sync.  [[Filters]] will use the Music view, unless they are explicitly configured with a different view in their settings. [[Auto-Playlist]]s retain their own views; [[Static Playlist]]s all use the same view by default but can be configured to have different views.
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: Steven on March 11, 2016, 07:13:34 AM
yes that looks correct
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on March 11, 2016, 07:20:26 AM
Hooray!  Thanks.
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on March 12, 2016, 01:39:12 AM
I'm not sure where this statement even came from (maybe old documentation), but is it still true?

"Holding CTRL while dragging tracks into MusicBee will cause them to be copied into your library."
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: redwing on March 12, 2016, 02:14:38 AM
I'm not sure where this statement even came from (maybe old documentation), but is it still true?

"Holding CTRL while dragging tracks into MusicBee will cause them to be copied into your library."

Yes because that's Windows standard behavior.

Drag & Drop files with MB
------------------------------
It conforms to the Windows standard behavior:

- Move to the same drive
- Copy to a different drive
- Hold Shift to force move
- Hold Ctrl to force copy
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on March 12, 2016, 03:08:06 AM
In that case, assuming you don't have auto-organise or "sweep and organise new files" configured, where does it copy them to?
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: redwing on March 12, 2016, 03:31:18 AM
In that case, assuming you don't have auto-organise or "sweep and organise new files" configured, where does it copy them to?

In that case probably it would only add them to the library without copying files.
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on March 17, 2016, 07:10:38 PM
Is monitored folders intended to catch new playlists as well?
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: Steven on March 17, 2016, 08:00:34 PM
MB should detect when a new playlist is added/ deleted or renamed to the MusicBee playlists folder itself but wont import an external playlist.
I think the reason was because there were complaints about unwanted playlists being imported. I may enhance that at a future date.
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on March 17, 2016, 08:23:25 PM
MB should detect when a new playlist is added/ deleted or renamed to the MusicBee playlists folder itself but wont import an external playlist.
I think the reason was because there were complaints about unwanted playlists being imported. I may enhance that at a future date.

Yes, I remember there being an issue with playlists being duplicated on every scan.  It probably does need a revisit soon, because I discovered when testing that there were playlists in my music folders that I didn't even know were there.  They didn't show up even when I used scan for new files with playlists included; I found them with a search for m3us in Windows explorer.

Edit: doing further testing, an .m3u playlist added to the playlists folder isn't imported either.  But it's possible I created some unlikely conditions with my testing and that's why.
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on March 19, 2016, 07:52:16 AM
What tag format and structure does MB use for WAV files?
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: Steven on March 19, 2016, 11:25:51 AM
MB uses two:
- LIST/ INFO chunk which is a standard that covers some of the tags
- ID3 chunk which i dont think is a standard WAV file tagging type but a number of players are using it. The ID3 tags themselves are standard
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on March 22, 2016, 12:20:42 AM
Added that.

Next!  :)

There are a few places, for instance auto-playlists, where duplicates can be automatically filtered.  Do these settings take into account changes made to which fields are checked in the duplicate manager, or do they use the default artist/title?
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: redwing on March 22, 2016, 04:42:57 AM
They seem to stick to the default definition.
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on March 29, 2016, 06:26:11 AM
What is the interaction between the "use custom fields for this playlist" and "display using view" settings for static playlists? 

What's the difference between setting a main panel view and leaving "display using view" set to default, vs setting a view in "display using view" and then changing it later in the main panel (which updates the playlist view, too, I noticed).
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: Steven on March 30, 2016, 09:59:09 PM
each grid type view (default track detail, default album and tracks, custom view of the same) has its own set of fields and sort order.
Without "use custom fields..." ticked the playlist uses the shared view. When it is ticked the the playlist maintains its own set of fields/ sort order although as i write this i cant recall if that overrides a custom view - i dont think it does ie. the custom view is always shared.
"Display using view" "locks" the playlist to that view - if you change the default playlists view using another playlist MB wont update the "locked" playlist. The reason i put it in quotes is because you can change the locked view via the main panel but it will only affect that playlist
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on April 01, 2016, 05:08:46 AM
I think I get it.  I think.  :)  Now can I explain it myself...?
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on April 01, 2016, 06:35:39 AM
What interrupts a playlist mixer cycle?  I mean, once you start a playlist mixer, what actions will cause it *not* to continue adding to playing tracks?
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: redwing on April 01, 2016, 03:45:40 PM
What's the difference between setting a main panel view and leaving "display using view" set to default, vs setting a view in "display using view" and then changing it later in the main panel (which updates the playlist view, too, I noticed).

So basically no differences, right?
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on April 01, 2016, 05:51:02 PM
What's the difference between setting a main panel view and leaving "display using view" set to default, vs setting a view in "display using view" and then changing it later in the main panel (which updates the playlist view, too, I noticed).

So basically no differences, right?

There is a difference.  If "display using view" is Default, then a change made to that playlist in the main panel will affect all playlists that use Default (this is true for auto-playlists, too).  If "display using view" is anything else, then only that playlist will change when you change the view in the main panel.  (Thus my wishlist suggestion for clarification on this.)
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: redwing on April 01, 2016, 06:01:39 PM
If "display using view" is anything else, then only that playlist will change when you change the view in the main panel.

No, all other playlists set to the same view change as well.
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: Steven on April 01, 2016, 06:03:03 PM
What interrupts a playlist mixer cycle?  I mean, once you start a playlist mixer, what actions will cause it *not* to continue adding to playing tracks?
anything that invokes loading new tracks into the Now Playing list eg. say double clicking a track in the main library panel.
Actions such as skip/ double click a track in the Now Playing list/ and even clicking Stop and then play again shouldnt stop the mixer
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on April 01, 2016, 06:34:38 PM
If "display using view" is anything else, then only that playlist will change when you change the view in the main panel.

No, all other playlists set to the same view change as well.

Please reread what Steven said above.  If you change the "display using view" to anything specific, it no longer affects other playlists.  I've also tested this.
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: redwing on April 01, 2016, 06:41:36 PM
We're talking about default fields playlists, right?
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on April 01, 2016, 07:06:07 PM
We're talking about default fields playlists, right?

If you change "display using view" away from default it sets "displayed fields" to default automatically (because custom fields no longer has any meaning - The whole thing is custom).  One of many things I hadn't understood until now.

Just the fact we're having this discussion shows that the current settings are very unclear. :)
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: redwing on April 01, 2016, 07:17:30 PM
If you change "display using view" away from default it sets "displayed fields" to default automatically (because custom fields no longer has any meaning - The whole thing is custom).

I'm not sure I follow you. Are you saying if you change view setting from "Default" to "Album & Tracks" view, then custom fields setting auto-changes to default fields setting? That's not happening with my MB.
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on April 01, 2016, 08:50:33 PM
I just tested again (3.0.5934), and I see you're right.   Even if "display using view" is set to a different view, if it is set to "default fields" it will reflect the default fields for that view.  (I know there have been cases when "use custom fields" has been reverted to "default fields", but I can't reproduce it right now.)

So that's another possible permutation.  But "Default" still operates differently from all other options for "display using view", because changing the view in the main panel will affect all "Default" playlists, but if you change "display using view", only that playlist changes views when you change it in the main panel.  Test it.  :)
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: redwing on April 02, 2016, 05:59:32 AM
But "Default" still operates differently from all other options for "display using view", because changing the view in the main panel will affect all "Default" playlists, but if you change "display using view", only that playlist changes views when you change it in the main panel.  Test it.  :)

I know what you mean. That's one thing I didn't like when we had a previous discussion about this:

For filters/playlists, current view setting options are misleading since now switching views constantly updates the initially saved view setting.
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: Pingaware on April 04, 2016, 03:30:41 PM
What interrupts a playlist mixer cycle?  I mean, once you start a playlist mixer, what actions will cause it *not* to continue adding to playing tracks?
anything that invokes loading new tracks into the Now Playing list eg. say double clicking a track in the main library panel.
Actions such as skip/ double click a track in the Now Playing list/ and even clicking Stop and then play again shouldnt stop the mixer

Note that dragging tracks in manually doesn't seem to break the cycle.
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on April 30, 2016, 04:14:24 PM
Where does the "auto-tag" function in the Tag Editor get its data?  It looks like an amalgam of the various auto-tag functions.   I have been testing it with songs that seem like they should be pretty easy to identify, and most of them have returned with no changes.  One (out of about 10 so far) came up with a new genre tag, but that's it.

Edit: today, it's coming back with the message "web service failed with error", but that wasn't happening previously.
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: Steven on April 30, 2016, 06:35:21 PM
Where does the "auto-tag" function in the Tag Editor get its data?  It looks like an amalgam of the various auto-tag functions.   I have been testing it with songs that seem like they should be pretty easy to identify, and most of them have returned with no changes.  One (out of about 10 so far) came up with a new genre tag, but that's it.

Edit: today, it's coming back with the message "web service failed with error", but that wasn't happening previously.
its working ok for me and fields are being update, although MusicBrainz did return a protocol error once. I gather they need to upgrade their servers due to overload so its probably just a temporary issue.
I am getting a couple of cases where artwork randomly doesnt download from one of the hosts for some reason so i will investigate that
edit:
the issue with the artwork is fixed for the next update
http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V3_0/MusicBee3_Patched.zip
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on April 30, 2016, 07:23:36 PM
Thanks.  I'll try it again.  (And yes, I thought it might be the MusicBrainz issue.  So far I have only seen genres updated, but I'll let you know what happens with the new version.)
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on April 30, 2016, 11:12:47 PM
What size, precisely, are the small, medium, and large thumbnails in the thumbnail browser?
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on May 11, 2016, 06:14:58 AM
Where does Artist Biography get its info?  I was surprised when Xbox Music and last.fm were both a bust, but it still had a bio.
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: Steven on May 11, 2016, 02:02:35 PM
What size, precisely, are the small, medium, and large thumbnails in the thumbnail browser?
its not obvious? each should affect the size of the thumbnail image. Is that not the case for you?

Where does Artist Biography get its info?  I was surprised when Xbox Music and last.fm were both a bust, but it still had a bio.
last.fm and echonest (while echonest is still available)
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on May 11, 2016, 02:05:33 PM
What size, precisely, are the small, medium, and large thumbnails in the thumbnail browser?
its not obvious? each should affect the size of the thumbnail image. Is that not the case for you?

I can see the size change, but I was hoping for # pixels. :)
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: Steven on May 11, 2016, 02:08:22 PM
40, 53, 66 for 96DPI screens and scaled up for high DPI resolution screens
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on May 11, 2016, 02:10:29 PM
Gotcha, thanks!
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on May 17, 2016, 06:13:28 AM
Okay, I know there was somewhere you explained why sometimes the displayed track length differs from the actual track length, but I can't find it now.  Can you explain that again?  Something about the file header?
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on May 30, 2016, 12:21:20 AM
I'm trying to understand the interaction between Auto-Organize and Monitored Folders, and how tag changes made outside of MusicBee are applied to auto-organize.

First, can someone please give me a crash course on how auto-organize works across drives?  My understanding is this:

If you have, for instance, auto-organize settings to the effect of "Move music on C:\ to M:\Music\", then when a file is added to the library from C:\, it will be moved to M:\Music\ and the template applied.

What if M:\Music\ is a monitored folder?  What if there is another auto-organize mapping for M:\?


Regarding tag changes made outside of MB, when should I expect these to be applied?  If the file is in a monitored folder, the changes usually show up right away, but it seems like I often go in later and files need to be reorganized.
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: Bee-liever on May 30, 2016, 01:22:39 AM
What if M:\Music\ is a monitored folder?  What if there is another auto-organize mapping for M:\?

from my experience, when the file is moved from C:\ to M:\Music\ the first template is applied
if you also have monitoring/mapping for M:\Music\ then that is applied straight after
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: redwing on May 30, 2016, 01:32:44 AM
from my experience, when the file is moved from C:\ to M:\Music\ the first template is applied
if you also have monitoring/mapping for M:\Music\ then that is applied straight after

Probably only the first rule will be applied for each "target folder" regardless of "source drive".
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: redwing on May 30, 2016, 01:41:48 AM
Regarding tag changes made outside of MB, when should I expect these to be applied?  If the file is in a monitored folder, the changes usually show up right away, but it seems like I often go in later and files need to be reorganized.

External edits of tags get detected real time if the track resides in a continuously monitored folder. But it's never re-organized until you manually run auto-organize command again. Maybe this needs to be fixed.
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on May 30, 2016, 02:43:47 AM
Regarding tag changes made outside of MB, when should I expect these to be applied?  If the file is in a monitored folder, the changes usually show up right away, but it seems like I often go in later and files need to be reorganized.

External edits of tags get detected real time if the track resides in a continuously monitored folder. But it's never re-organized until you manually run auto-organize command again. Maybe this needs to be fixed.

Yes, I think that needs to be addressed.  Sort of defeats the purpose of "auto".  :)
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on May 30, 2016, 04:19:32 AM
What if M:\Music\ is a monitored folder?  What if there is another auto-organize mapping for M:\?

from my experience, when the file is moved from C:\ to M:\Music\ the first template is applied
if you also have monitoring/mapping for M:\Music\ then that is applied straight after

Does that mean the file is moved twice?
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: Bee-liever on May 30, 2016, 07:41:27 AM
Does that mean the file is moved twice?

It's only a handful of files that this ever occurs too so I'm not sure if they get moved twice or not.
The majority of my new music gets stored on my NAS.
When I edit the tags to my satisfaction, they get sent to the library, MB then auto-organises them, moving them to my local S:/My Music drive. This drive is auto-synced to another drive on the NAS and also backed-up to an external HDD.

If I have recorded some tracks from vinyl, these come in from my W:/ drive.  After I've cleaned up the clicks and crackles they get moved into the library. Auto-organised to 'Incoming' sub-folder of S:/My Music.  If they meet one of the exception rules they are left in the Incoming folder, otherwise they end up auto-organised like any other file I move into the library from my NAS

Hope that helps a bit, psychoadept
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on May 30, 2016, 04:04:33 PM
That does help, thanks!  Would you mind posting a screenshot of your auto-organize settings?
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on May 31, 2016, 05:24:37 AM
Is it still true that certain file info can't be used in virtual tags?  I was able to create a virtual tag with <Sample Rate>.
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on May 31, 2016, 07:52:15 AM
Sorry for multi-posting, but I figured it was better to put this here than in the tips & tricks thread.

Drag & Drop files with MB
------------------------------
It conforms to the Windows standard behavior:

- Move to the same drive
- Copy to a different drive
- Hold Shift to force move
- Hold Ctrl to force copy

What does this apply to?  Windows Explorer?  Computer Node?  Right now, even though I have turned on "allow folders to be moved", my drag & drop actions to the computer node are resulting in files being copied.
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: redwing on May 31, 2016, 09:13:49 AM
It's mainly about between windows explorer and MB. Within MB, it varies depending on the settings and the context. For instance, with auto-ogranization turned on, drag and drop of a library file to a computer folder will only copy it even on the same drive. But if you perform the same action from a computer node to another node, it moves.
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on June 02, 2016, 07:20:21 PM
Okay, so I'm not at all sure what to put under the Computer Node section here: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/File_Organization#Computer_Node

If "Allow Folder to Be Moved" is not ticked, it will copy files.  I thought it was moving files once that was ticked, but then I saw it copying again (when dragging files from the main panel).  Help?
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: Steven on June 02, 2016, 07:53:55 PM
the only thing "Allow Folder to Be Moved" affects is whether you can drag folders in the Computer section of the left navigator.
It has nothing to do with moving/ copying files
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on June 02, 2016, 08:21:09 PM
Okay, good to know.  So how do you know if MB is going to move or copy files when you're dragging them to the computer node?
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: Steven on June 02, 2016, 08:28:09 PM
the drag/ drop icon has a "+" symbol when the default action is copy and no symbol when the default action is move. Thats quite old standard windows feedback (XP era) so i guess newer windows users may not be familar with it.
As redwing mentioned, you can (sometimes depending on context) force the action to move or copy by holding the SHIFT key down (move) or Ctrl key down (copy)
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on June 02, 2016, 08:31:36 PM
Okay, I'll play with it some more and see if it's more predictable now that I know that.
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: Steven on June 02, 2016, 08:48:55 PM
there is a large combination of from and to locations that affect the type of operation
eg. dragging a file from the library or a playlist to a computer folder (default action: copy) is different to dragging a file from another computer folder (default action: move), and different again if the target folder is on another drive (default action: copy)
Where as dragging from the Inbox to the Music node just does a logical move unless auto-organise is enabled
While dragging from anywhere to a playlist just adds the file to the playlist
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: Bee-liever on June 03, 2016, 08:42:10 AM
That does help, thanks!  Would you mind posting a screenshot of your auto-organize settings?
better late then never, I suppose :)
(http://i.imgur.com/b92KasG.jpg) (http://imgur.com/b92KasG)
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: theta_wave on June 03, 2016, 10:19:38 AM
Someone mentioned auto-organize settings?  (not auto-organize, but it is the sorting rule I have when moving files from the inbox to the library)

To Folder: I:

Template:
$If($Or(<Genre>="Anime",<Genre>="Game"),"Soundtrack - "<Genre>,$If(<Genre>="Soundtrack",<Genre>,$If($Or(<AlbumArtist>="Brian Eno",$Contains(<AlbumArtist>,"Brian Eno")="T"),"Brian Eno",$If($Or(<Genre>="Alternative",<Genre>="Rock"),"Alternative and Rock",$If(<Genre>="New Wave","80s, New Wave, and Synthpop",$If(<Genre>="Jazz Vocal","Jazz (Vocal)",$If($Or(<Genre>="House",<Genre>="Acid Jazz"),Dance,$If($Or(<Genre>="Gothic",<Genre>="Post-Punk"),"Gothic or Post-Punk",$If(<Genre>="Rap","Hip Hop",$If(<Genre>="Jungle","Drum & Bass",$If($Or(<Genre>="Lounge",<Genre>="Downtempo"),"Lounge & Nu-jazz",$If(<Genre>="Nu-jazz","Lounge & Nu-jazz",$If($Or(<Genre>="Instrumental Rock",<Genre>="Post-Rock"),"Post-Rock and Instrumental Rock",$If(<Genre>="Singer/Songwriter",Singer-Songwriter,$If($Or(<Genre>="Experimental",<Genre>="No Wave"),Avantgarde,$If(<Genre>="Synthpop","Synthpop (Modern Day)",$If(<Genre>="Drone",Ambient,$If(<Genre>="Darkwave","Indie Electronic",<Genre>))))))))))))))))))\If($Or(<Genre>="Anime",<Genre>="Game"),$Sort(<Album>)" ("<YearOnly>")"\<FileName>,$If(<Genre>="Soundtrack",$Sort(<Album>)" ("<YearOnly>")"\<FileName>,$If(<Genre>="Tracker",<AlbumArtist>\$IsNull(<Album>,"("<YearOnly>") "<Title>,"("<YearOnly>") "<Album>\<FileName>),$If(<AlbumArtist>="Various Artists","VA - "<Album>" ("<Year>")"\<FileName>,$If($Or(<AlbumArtist>="Brian Eno",$Contains(<AlbumArtist>,"Brian Eno")="T"),$IsNull(<Custom2>,"("<YearOnly>".00.00) "<Album>\<FileName>,"("<YearOnly>.<Custom2>") "<Album>\<FileName>),$If(<Genre>="Classical",$RSplit(<Composer>," ",1)" - "<Album>" ("<Year>")"\<FileName>,$If($Or($IsMatch(<AlbumArtist>,"^The\s")="F",<AlbumArtist>="The The"),<AlbumArtist>\$IsNull(<Custom2>,"("<YearOnly>".00.00) "<Album>\<FileName>,"("<YearOnly>.<Custom2>") "<Album>\<FileName>),$Sort(<AlbumArtist>)\$IsNull(<Custom2>,"("<YearOnly>".00.00) "<Album>\<FileName>,"("<YearOnly>.<Custom2>") "<Album>\<FileName>))))))))
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on June 04, 2016, 02:51:12 AM
That does help, thanks!  Would you mind posting a screenshot of your auto-organize settings?
better late then never, I suppose :)
(http://i.imgur.com/b92KasG.jpg) (http://imgur.com/b92KasG)

Thank you.  :)  Would you mind if I put that on the wiki as an example?
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on June 05, 2016, 03:01:23 AM
Someone mentioned auto-organize settings?  (not auto-organize, but it is the sorting rule I have when moving files from the inbox to the library)

To Folder: I:

Template:
$If($Or(<Genre>="Anime",<Genre>="Game"),"Soundtrack - "<Genre>,$If(<Genre>="Soundtrack",<Genre>,$If($Or(<AlbumArtist>="Brian Eno",$Contains(<AlbumArtist>,"Brian Eno")="T"),"Brian Eno",$If($Or(<Genre>="Alternative",<Genre>="Rock"),"Alternative and Rock",$If(<Genre>="New Wave","80s, New Wave, and Synthpop",$If(<Genre>="Jazz Vocal","Jazz (Vocal)",$If($Or(<Genre>="House",<Genre>="Acid Jazz"),Dance,$If($Or(<Genre>="Gothic",<Genre>="Post-Punk"),"Gothic or Post-Punk",$If(<Genre>="Rap","Hip Hop",$If(<Genre>="Jungle","Drum & Bass",$If($Or(<Genre>="Lounge",<Genre>="Downtempo"),"Lounge & Nu-jazz",$If(<Genre>="Nu-jazz","Lounge & Nu-jazz",$If($Or(<Genre>="Instrumental Rock",<Genre>="Post-Rock"),"Post-Rock and Instrumental Rock",$If(<Genre>="Singer/Songwriter",Singer-Songwriter,$If($Or(<Genre>="Experimental",<Genre>="No Wave"),Avantgarde,$If(<Genre>="Synthpop","Synthpop (Modern Day)",$If(<Genre>="Drone",Ambient,$If(<Genre>="Darkwave","Indie Electronic",<Genre>))))))))))))))))))\If($Or(<Genre>="Anime",<Genre>="Game"),$Sort(<Album>)" ("<YearOnly>")"\<FileName>,$If(<Genre>="Soundtrack",$Sort(<Album>)" ("<YearOnly>")"\<FileName>,$If(<Genre>="Tracker",<AlbumArtist>\$IsNull(<Album>,"("<YearOnly>") "<Title>,"("<YearOnly>") "<Album>\<FileName>),$If(<AlbumArtist>="Various Artists","VA - "<Album>" ("<Year>")"\<FileName>,$If($Or(<AlbumArtist>="Brian Eno",$Contains(<AlbumArtist>,"Brian Eno")="T"),$IsNull(<Custom2>,"("<YearOnly>".00.00) "<Album>\<FileName>,"("<YearOnly>.<Custom2>") "<Album>\<FileName>),$If(<Genre>="Classical",$RSplit(<Composer>," ",1)" - "<Album>" ("<Year>")"\<FileName>,$If($Or($IsMatch(<AlbumArtist>,"^The\s")="F",<AlbumArtist>="The The"),<AlbumArtist>\$IsNull(<Custom2>,"("<YearOnly>".00.00) "<Album>\<FileName>,"("<YearOnly>.<Custom2>") "<Album>\<FileName>),$Sort(<AlbumArtist>)\$IsNull(<Custom2>,"("<YearOnly>".00.00) "<Album>\<FileName>,"("<YearOnly>.<Custom2>") "<Album>\<FileName>))))))))

Wow, your genres are way better organized than mine.  :)
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: Bee-liever on June 05, 2016, 04:58:12 AM
Thank you.  :)  Would you mind if I put that on the wiki as an example?
Not at all.
I even used the default skin for that reason :)
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on June 06, 2016, 12:10:31 AM
Does "Identify Track and Update Tags" use the same sources as the auto-tag by album search?
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: psychoadept on June 06, 2016, 12:52:59 AM
What does ticking the various "restrict release types" boxes do?  When more than one is ticked, does it act like an OR?  Does ticking album but not compilation exclude compilations?  Does ticking album exclude singles?
Title: Re: New questions for the wiki
Post by: theta_wave on June 13, 2016, 07:58:51 AM
Wow, your genres are way better organized than mine.  :)
This was done mainly to keep legacy directory settings for Mediamonkey and my backup software.  I'd do it all over again (and simpler) if I could.