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Title: Album tracks out of order
Post by: B-Rayn on September 17, 2015, 12:57:13 AM
I am brand new to Musicbee and media servers in general. Newbie. I am having a hell of a time. Finally was able to transfer my music over to MusicBee file(album) by file(album) one at a time. When I tried to transfer it all at once it came over as one lump of tracks not broken down by artist or album. UGGH!
My next problem is that the tracks are out of order. They are not out of order on my computer so something happens in the transfer process. Anyhow when I use the auto tag by album feature the actual song does not correspond with the tagging. Meaning song 1 on the tagging is not song 1 at all but some other track from 1 through whatever. There is a good chance this is operator malfunction on my part as I am not very good at maneuvering my way around any server. By the way thank you to the Creator of MusicBee, Steve for a great free service.
Thanks for any help.
Title: Re: Album tracks out of order
Post by: psychoadept on September 17, 2015, 03:17:43 AM
Some screenshots would really help us figure out what's happening: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Posting_Screenshots

At a guess, it might help if you went into Sorting/Grouping preferences and ticked "files for each album are in their own folder"  (if that's true, of course)
Title: Re: Album tracks out of order
Post by: B-Rayn on September 17, 2015, 10:24:38 AM
I appreciate the how to link for posting screenshots but not working for me. It only brings up the plain text.
Frustrated.
Title: Re: Album tracks out of order
Post by: B-Rayn on September 17, 2015, 10:45:53 AM
I cannot even get a screenshot up. Maybe tells me I should not be on MusicBee :)
Trying to get with the times but maybe I'll keep to my old ways of listening to music.
Tough to navigate when you are a newbie. Way too much time expended.
Spent 5 hrs yesterday trying to get my music on to MusicBee. LOL

The tracks once transferred to Music be are in a random order 1,5,7,3.11.10 ect.
Not 1,2,3,4 as they they should be. Then when I auto tag the album the tracks stay in the misconstrued arrangement but now have the wrong song title with the wrong song. LOL.
Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Album tracks out of order
Post by: hiccup on September 17, 2015, 12:02:54 PM
I cannot even get a screenshot up. Maybe tells me I should not be on MusicBee :)

I am using 'imgur uploader' for that. Works perfect for me.
http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=14760.msg87986#msg87986
Title: Re: Album tracks out of order
Post by: Steven on September 17, 2015, 06:27:25 PM
if you are playing the files via windows explorer then MB sorts the files in the now playing list ordered by filename i recall
If you prefer to play files from a folder structure, there is the "Computer" node in the left navigator for that
Title: Re: Album tracks out of order
Post by: B-Rayn on September 17, 2015, 06:51:07 PM
I don't think I'm playing the files via windows explorer.  I use Google Chrome. But if they are transferred to MB would that matter? It is not the end of the world. I just thought having the correct song name with the correct song would be cool. I have no idea why the screenshot won't come up. I followed the direction to the letter.
Thanks
Title: Re: Album tracks out of order
Post by: hiccup on September 17, 2015, 06:53:30 PM
I have no idea why the screenshot won't come up. I followed the direction to the letter.

Dis you see and try my suggestion for posting screenshots?
Title: Re: Album tracks out of order
Post by: B-Rayn on September 17, 2015, 08:59:51 PM
Sorry hiccup. I'll try it right now.
Title: Re: Album tracks out of order
Post by: B-Rayn on September 17, 2015, 09:19:11 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/st47rwls.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/st47rwl.png)

Thanks hiccup. Fool proof :)
Title: Re: Album tracks out of order
Post by: B-Rayn on September 17, 2015, 09:25:00 PM
The screenshot is prior to adding auto tag information. But when auto tagged the songs do not get rearranged in their correct sequence. Therefore the title for track 2 is with track 5 etc.  I cannot figure out how to put songs in their correct sequence to match auto tag info.
Thanks for all the help.
Title: Re: Album tracks out of order
Post by: hiccup on September 17, 2015, 09:55:23 PM
Some observations:
- From your screenshot, the tracks are sorted on album name (little arrow), not on title, so I can understand they are not in a specific or correct order.
- Those tracks seem to have not only the title in the title tag field, but also the track number. (that's not how the title tag should properly be used)
- I don't often use the auto-tagger within MusicBee myself, but I guess your problem lies there somewhere. Maybe you could post a screenshot form how that looks before you apply the renaming? Maybe the tracks are in the wrong order when you apply the auto-tagging?
Title: Re: Album tracks out of order
Post by: psychoadept on September 17, 2015, 11:40:50 PM
If your files are named with correct album and artist info, you may be able to use "infer tags from filenames" under auto-tag by track to update them.  sorting by title may help the auto tagger identify correct track order
Title: Re: Album tracks out of order
Post by: B-Rayn on September 18, 2015, 01:33:26 AM
Yes the tracks are in the wrong order when I apply auto-tagging. That is the problem I cannot figure out to put them in the correct order prior to auto tagging. I am using the auto tag feature because when the file transfers it just says [empty]. So I was trying to ad in album name and art. Figured the auto tag was for this very reason. As you can see I am fairly computer illiterate. Maybe I am transferring he files incorrectly. I am using Scan Folders for New Files feature to transfer files. The Add Files to Library doesn't seem to work for me. Operator malfunction maybe.
Thanks for all the help.
Title: Re: Album tracks out of order
Post by: B-Rayn on September 18, 2015, 01:43:17 AM
I don't know why the track # is along side the title. The screenshot I posted is how it arrives from my computer(although the tracks are in order on my puter). I did not alter anything in the screenshot posted.
Title: Re: Album tracks out of order
Post by: psychoadept on September 18, 2015, 02:51:02 AM
Like I said, if you sort by Title instead of album (look for the arrow in the header bar), the auto-tag by album feature is more likely to sort them in the right order.
Title: Re: Album tracks out of order
Post by: hiccup on September 18, 2015, 09:00:30 AM
I don't know why the track # is along side the title.

That's not a real problem, just not quite proper practice.

If you have opened the Album Auto-Tagger pane,you can select the source provider at the top.
Note that different releases or continents might have different sequences (or number) of tracks for an album. Choose the provider that matches your album best.

If the sequence is still wrong, you can drag a track from the 'original title' column or the 'filename' column, to match the most left 'title' column.
Title: Re: Album tracks out of order
Post by: B-Rayn on September 18, 2015, 11:51:49 AM
|Like I said, if you sort by Title instead of album (look for the arrow in the header bar), the auto-tag by album feature is more likely to sort them in the right order.|

I'm lost. Not sure what you talking about. I cannot figure out how to sort by title. Looked at the Auto-tag by track-Infer. Nothing
Title: Re: Album tracks out of order
Post by: B-Rayn on September 18, 2015, 12:01:43 PM
|Like I said, if you sort by Title instead of album (look for the arrow in the header bar), the auto-tag by album feature is more likely to sort them in the right order.|

I think I figured out what you mean. But it is a lot of work to change each song. It will take months.
Maybe the only way though.
Thanks
Title: Re: Album tracks out of order
Post by: B-Rayn on September 18, 2015, 12:14:01 PM
It worked Psychoadept. Thanks for the help. I am getting a bit frustrated but I guess the learning curve is part of it.
Not sure I can invest the time to do that song by song to every album though.
Title: Re: Album tracks out of order
Post by: psychoadept on September 18, 2015, 02:08:17 PM
Sorting in MB is not much different from Windows explorer: you click the column header of the column you want to sort by.  What are you doing song-by-song?  Can you show us what it looks like when it's working?

Do your file names in Windows contain all the tag information (Album, artist, title, track#,etc)?  Do you have a folder structure like "artist/album/# title"?
Title: Re: Album tracks out of order
Post by: B-Rayn on September 18, 2015, 09:21:11 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/gKDcTHxs.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/gKDcTHx.png)
 This album I had to change each track one at at time using auto tag by track, infer.
Title: Re: Album tracks out of order
Post by: B-Rayn on September 18, 2015, 09:23:14 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Gvy0Hyos.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/Gvy0Hyo.png)
Title: Re: Album tracks out of order
Post by: psychoadept on September 18, 2015, 10:16:56 PM
Thanks, the screenshots help.  If you've figured out how to use "infer tags from filenames" and your filenames are consistent, you should be able to do that on any number of tracks at once.

I can't see the end of the filename there, but it looks like your pattern should be:

<Album Artist>\<Year> - <Album>\<Track#>. <Title>


Edited: based on your original screenshot, I concluded that the track number is written as ##. in your files.  MB imports the Filename in place of title when there are no title tags.
Title: Re: Album tracks out of order
Post by: B-Rayn on September 22, 2015, 09:27:47 AM
Thanks for all the help. I am just taking a breather as the setup is taking a lot of time for me.
Still have confidence in MusicBee. I'll get it all setup eventually.

Thanks