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General => Beyond MusicBee => Topic started by: phred on March 15, 2015, 09:22:47 PM
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Man, does this ever belong in the Beyond Music Bee category.
I'm very close to the end of a tagging project that solely involved find the year of about 1000 tracks. Listed below are 56 tracks that I can't find on the Internet. Or if they are on the 'net, there's no indication of year. For the purpose of finishing this project, I'm defining "year" as the year recorded -or- the year released. In lieu of either of those dates, I'll accept the year the track appeared on a compilation album. If anyone is familiar with any of these tracks and can find the year, I'd be most appreciative. I also listed the genre of each as an aid in finding the right track. Lastly, the first five tracks listed are also missing the artist. They're all of the Swamp Pop (or Zydeco) genre, so that might help narrow down the artist and the year.
Thanks in advance for any help provided.
Rockapella Banana Boat Song A Cappella
Rockapella Blue Moon A Cappella
Rockapella Brown Eyed Girl A Cappella
Rockapella Canon In D A Cappella
Rockapella Every Breath You Take A Cappella
Rockapella In The Still Of The Night A Cappella
Rockapella Time After Time A Cappella
Rockapella Yesterday A Cappella
Tracks Removed from Initial List:
Taj Mahal Banana Boat Song Blues 1998
The Go-Go's Hey Mickey Rock (Artist corrected to Toni Basil) 1981
Moby Mission Impossible Rock 2000
Artist Unknown Boudreau Got Run Over By A Mud Boat 1993 (Artist updated to Bayou Boudreaux; Title corrected to Boudreaux's Christmas) Swamp Pop
Ella Fitzgerald Heart And Soul Jazz 1960
Ella Fitzgerald Round Midnight Jazz 1961
Howlin' Wolf Poor Boy Blues 1957
Louis Armstrong Sweet Georgia Brown Jazz 1963
Artist Unknown Santa Claus Is Coming To Town Swamp Pop (Artist updated to Paul Daigle) 1987
Charlie Parker Summertime Jazz 1949
Rockapella Beatles Medley A Cappella 1992
Rockapella Hound Dog A Cappella 1992
Rockapella Land of 1000 Dances A Cappella 2002
Rockapella Sitting On The Dock Of The Bay A Cappella 1996
Rockapella Stand By Me A Cappella 1996
Rockapella Under the Boardwalk A Cappella 1990
Rockapella Just You, Just Me A Cappella 2000
Spoon Rhythm & Soul Indie 2007
Son House Death Letter Blues 1985
Son House Empire State Express Blues 1965
Son House Grinnin' In Your Face Blues 1965
Son House Levee Camp Moan Blues 1941
Son House Pearline Blues 1965
Son House Preachin' the Blues Blues 1967
Bridge 'n Tunnel Midnight Train to Georgia A Cappella 2008
Clifton Chenier Clifton's Boogie Woogie Zydeco 1966
Clifton Chenier What'd I Say Zydeco 1966
The Blenders Sixty Minute Man A Cappella 1994
Bruce Springsteen Sitting On The Dock Of The Bay (Live) Rock (Artist corrected to Pearl Jam) 1994
Bob Dylan It Ain't Me Babe [with Janis Joplin] (artist corrected to Bob Dylan & Joan Baez) Rock 1964
Jerry Seinfeld Phones Comedy 1998
Stan Freberg Gilbert And Sullivan Comedy 1957
The Mint Juleps Jimmy Mack A Cappella 1985
Bill Cosby Baseball Comedy 1968
Clifton Chenier Road Runner Zydeco 1977
Clifton Chenier You're Fussin' Too Much Zydeco 1981
Rockapella Surfer Girl A Cappella 1996
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Here are some leads that might help:
Moby - Mission: Impossible
http://www.ew.com/article/2000/06/02/inside-making-limp-bizkits-hit-mi-2-theme
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The Go-Gos - Hey Mickey
Are you sure this isn't the Tony Basil song Mickey? Wiki has no Go-Gos version listed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_%28song%29. Or it could be a bootleg from a concert, I suppose.
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Taj Mahal, Banana Boat Song (Day-O)
http://www.allmusic.com/song/the-banana-boat-song-day-o-mt0010470374
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If there's any question of the accuracy of the tags, you might check out different versions on youtube for comparison (and sometimes there's good info in the comments, if tracks are labeled incorrectly there!). I've had a handful of songs over the years that were straight up mislabeled.
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@pyschoadept-
Great info.
Yes, I've discovered many tracks on YouTube that are incorrectly identified. But it's part of the challenge. :)
As for Mission Impossible and Banana Boat Song, I'm going with what you pointed me to. Hey Mickey is another matter. I listened to Tony Basil's version on YouTube and it's pretty damn similar to what I have as The Go-Go's. I'll dig a little deeper into this, but I think I'll have to re-tag the tag completely and give it to Basil. I'm pretty sure I got the track from a CD I took out from the library, so I might be able to track it down there.
Thanks.
EDIT: Hey Mickey is confirmed as Toni Basil. I was able to play the YouTube track and what I have in sync and they're exact! Thanks for pointing this out.
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Artist Unknown Boudreau Got Run Over By A Mud Boat Swamp Pop
this is by Bayou Boudreaux and the real title is "Boudreaux's Christmas"
http://www.gemm.com/store/WATTS/item/BAYOU-BOUDREAUX-BOUDREAUX-GOT-RUN-OVER-BY-A-MUDBOAT-45RPM/766369722 (http://www.gemm.com/store/WATTS/item/BAYOU-BOUDREAUX-BOUDREAUX-GOT-RUN-OVER-BY-A-MUDBOAT-45RPM/766369722)
the Swallow records discography doesn't list a date
http://monola.net/labb0105.htm (http://monola.net/labb0105.htm)
the earliest dated reference I could find (it's the one I used) was from this compilation
http://www.amazon.com/Boudreauxs-Christmas/dp/B00ILCG1JI/ref=sr_1_1?s=dmusic&ie=UTF8&qid=1426456992&sr=1-1&keywords=Bayou+Boudreaux (http://www.amazon.com/Boudreauxs-Christmas/dp/B00ILCG1JI/ref=sr_1_1?s=dmusic&ie=UTF8&qid=1426456992&sr=1-1&keywords=Bayou+Boudreaux)
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Oops. forgot these links I also use.
Ella Fitzgerald:
http://ellafitzgerald.altervista.org/discography_gen.htm (http://ellafitzgerald.altervista.org/discography_gen.htm)
Louis Armstrong:
http://michaelminn.net/discographies/armstrong/ (http://michaelminn.net/discographies/armstrong/)
Howlin' Wolf:
http://depanorama.net/wolf/wolf2.htm (http://depanorama.net/wolf/wolf2.htm)
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WOW!!!
Thanks Bee-liever. I got four more off the list.
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phred,
there is a link on the amazon page (from link above) for the album "Merry Cajun Christmas" that lists "Cajun Night Before Christmas" and "Santa Claus Is Coming to Town".
could these be the same as the ones on your list?
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could these be the same as the ones on your list?
One is (Santa Claus is Coming to Town) and one isn't. It appears that Night Before Christmas is being read by a local Louisiana disk jockey back in 2005. I guess I never listened to it all the way through. DELETE.
Thanks again.
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Glad it's helping! I may have to try crowdsourcing my research one of these days, too!
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Glad it's helping! I may have to try crowdsourcing my research one of these days, too!
Quite honestly, I've gotten more of a response that I thought I'd get. Especially with the Zydeco stuff.
The one that's killing me right now is It Ain't Me Babe with Bob Dylan and Janis Joplin. Getting this one would be a feather in my cap, along with the cap of whoever can tell me the year. For a while I was thinking the woman's voice was Joan Baez, but I've been able to confirm (by length of track, and file size) that it's Janis. This one's a toughie!
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For a while I was thinking the woman's voice was Joan Baez
are you sure it's not one of the Joan Baez versions?
24 July 1964 - Newport Folk Festival - Released on: Joan Baez - Live At Newport - 02 August 1998.
31 October 1964 - New York Philharmonic Hall - Released on: The Bootleg Series, Vol. 6: Bob Dylan Live 1964 - Concert at Philharmonic Hall
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For a while I was thinking the woman's voice was Joan Baez
are you sure it's not one of the Joan Baez versions?
It's definitely not the Bootleg Series as I have that and just listened to both of them. I'll research the Newport Folk Festival tomorrow. But again, given the length of the track and the bitrate, it seems to be matching up with something I found online with Joplin.
Thanks for continuing the search.
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Are you sure the Springsteen song is "Sitting on the Dock of the Bay"? It's not listed as something he's ever performed on Brucebase (which is [r]here[/u] (http://brucebase.wikispaces.com/Songlist)), and Brucebase is very comprehensive.
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Are you sure the Springsteen song is "Sitting on the Dock of the Bay"? It's not listed as something he's ever performed on Brucebase (which is [r]here[/u] (http://brucebase.wikispaces.com/Songlist)), and Brucebase is very comprehensive.
Hmmm ... I'll turn your question around. I'm sure it's Dock of the Bay. But now, based on your Brucebase comment, I'm not sure it's Bruce. It starts off with a voice saying "It's an honor to play one of his songs with him here tonight." So that helps with the date, as the 'him' being referred to must be Otis Redding who died in 1967. And I can't say for certain that the voice of the person doing the intro is Springsteen.
More work for tomorrow.
Thanks.
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For a while I was thinking the woman's voice was Joan Baez, but I've been able to confirm (by length of track, and file size) that it's Janis. This one's a toughie!
But again, given the length of the track and the bitrate, it seems to be matching up with something I found online with Joplin.
Mentioning file size and bitrate suggests you're comparing the track you have with tracks listed elsewhere online, but you can't assume that the other tracks are correct.
I notice it less these days, but pre bittorrent in the days of Ye Olde Soulseek tracks weren't tagged or named properly, if at all. It only takes one person to tag something incorrectly and share it, and a few months later thousands of people think Weird Al is swearing like a sailor in half of his songs.
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Are you sure the Springsteen song is "Sitting on the Dock of the Bay"? It's not listed as something he's ever performed on Brucebase (which is [r]here[/u] (http://brucebase.wikispaces.com/Songlist)), and Brucebase is very comprehensive.
Hmmm ... I'll turn your question around. I'm sure it's Dock of the Bay. But now, based on your Brucebase comment, I'm not sure it's Bruce. It starts off with a voice saying "It's an honor to play one of his songs with him here tonight." So that helps with the date, as the 'him' being referred to must be Otis Redding who died in 1967.
Very unlikely it's Springsteen in 1967 or earlier.
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Are you sure the Springsteen song is "Sitting on the Dock of the Bay"? It's not listed as something he's ever performed on Brucebase (which is [r]here[/u] (http://brucebase.wikispaces.com/Songlist)), and Brucebase is very comprehensive.
Hmmm ... I'll turn your question around. I'm sure it's Dock of the Bay. But now, based on your Brucebase comment, I'm not sure it's Bruce. It starts off with a voice saying "It's an honor to play one of his songs with him here tonight." So that helps with the date, as the 'him' being referred to must be Otis Redding who died in 1967.
From that info, it's most likely to be the Pearl Jam version from 1994. The 'him', referred to in the intro, is Steve Cropper. The co-writer of Dock of the Bay and guest guitarist on stage with Pearl Jam.
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Link to the version suggested by Bee-liever here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl3NeDo99GE).
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Very unlikely it's Springsteen in 1967 or earlier.
Yes, I was thinking about that. It seemed rather early and I hadn't thought to actually look up the dates of his earliest releases.
From that info, it's most likely to be the Pearl Jam version from 1994. The 'him', referred to in the intro, is Steve Cropper. The co-writer of Dock of the Bay and guest guitarist on stage with Pearl Jam.
Again yes. Cropper also still alive while Otis is long gone.
Link to the version suggested by Bee-liever here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl3NeDo99GE).
YES!!! Same intro word for word.
Thanks to Bee-liever and Pingaware for solving this one.
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For a while I was thinking the woman's voice was Joan Baez
are you sure it's not one of the Joan Baez versions?
24 July 1964 - Newport Folk Festival - Released on: Joan Baez - Live At Newport - 02 August 1998.
Well, I'm going with the Baez version. I found this link on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi9nMkIDK70 and while the title states Joplin, there are a number of comments correcting it to Baez. The audio is exactly the same as what I have - including the laughter and pause at :08.
Bee-liever with another one!!
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Can't be sure these reflect each track's earliest release, but:
Bill Cosby's baseball skit
1968 album To Russell, My Brother, Whom I Slept With:
http://www.discogs.com/Bill-Cosby-To-Russell-My-Brother-Whom-I-Slept-With/master/122159
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmJ6xA7KXdE
Clifton Chenier - Road Runner
1977 album Boogie 'N' Zydeco:
http://www.discogs.com/Clifton-Chenier-Boogie-N-Zydeco/master/413407
Clifton Chenier - You're Fussin' Too Much
1981 album The King of Zydeco:
http://www.discogs.com/Clifton-Chenier-The-King-Of-Zydeco/release/991689
Rockapella - Surfer Girl
1996 album Lucky Seven:
http://www.discogs.com/Rockapella-Lucky-Seven/release/6173426
I'm not familiar with Stan Freberg, but this page suggests his Gilbert And Sullivan song is from a radio show that aired in 1957:
http://otrarchive.blogspot.com.au/2009/11/stan-freberg-show.html
Mint Juleps - Jimmy Mack:
1985 album One Time:
http://www.discogs.com/Mint-Juleps-One-Time/master/413694
It looks like Rockapella are often misattributed to other a cappella groups, so also check your other tracks don't match these, which have been discredited in the comments*:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9Dk61g88Ko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FBNY_MTG9s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAKl6_vOrr8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shY1wfLVaL8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUwhRYqMBSs
*Warning: YouTube comments may contain bullshit.
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Can't be sure these reflect each track's earliest release, but:
Gee Zak, that's some major progress. You deserve a gold star for that!
Five of the six are good.
The comments on Banana Boat song not being by Rockapella may be correct. It's the same version that I have, but I'm holding off on this one and will continue looking to see if the correct artist can be identified.
Also check your other Rockapella tracks don't match these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FBNY_MTG9s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAKl6_vOrr8
It looks like they're often misattributed to other a cappella groups.
No match on either of these two with what I have.
That's the problem with a cappella. There's lots of mistaken identities. I've got seven great a cappella tracks that I have no idea who the artist is. I keep trying to match them up with what I can find online, just to nail down the artist, but that's proving rather difficult.
Thanks again for your help.
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Rockapella Banana Boat Song A Cappella
Rockapella Blue Moon A Cappella
Rockapella Brown Eyed Girl A Cappella
Rockapella Canon In D A Cappella
Rockapella Every Breath You Take A Cappella
Rockapella In The Still Of The Night A Cappella
Rockapella Just You, Just Me A Cappella
Rockapella Time After Time A Cappella
Rockapella Yesterday A Cappella
Have you ever considered that those songs are not from Rockapella ?
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Brown+Eyed+Girl+acapella
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=every+breath+you+take+a+cappella
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Also, none of them appear on Musicbrainz for Rockappella
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Have you ever considered that those songs are not from Rockapella ?
Yes, many times! :) Some of these "Rockapella" tracks sound like they were recorded before a live audience. Therefore it's possible they were never on a released album.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Brown+Eyed+Girl+acapella
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=every+breath+you+take+a+cappella
Thanks for this. I'll start working my way through these and see if I can find a match.
Also, none of them appear on Musicbrainz for Rockappella
I never used Musicbrainz before, but maybe now's the time to start.
Thanks for your comments.
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You're welcome !
Check also for "the brown Derbies", they made some acapella version of popular songs too.
Edit: they seem to have made a cover of "brown eyed girl"
https://www.google.com/search?num=30&q=the+brown+derbies+brown+eyed+girl&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAGOovnz8BQMDgw4HsxCXfq6-gWFeuoWJoRIniF1Ulm1ioSXoW1qcmexYVJJZXBKSH5yfl_7NaPZHzZN3XuuExceembA_61a8fhUA-hqs3UkAAAA&sa=X&ei=bjpBVfrnH9XdatypgZgO&ved=0CN0CEMQNMCQ&biw=1920&bih=975
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Just You, Just Me, (Brian Auger), appeared on Rockapella: Rockapella 2; 2000; length 1:49
Have you considered The Swingle Singers, search?
Swingle Singers
Yesterday from “The Beatles Collection”
"Canon" (NOT Canon in D) JSB Greatest Hits by the Swingle Singers 1963 length 1:53
Conon in D could be the “Acapella Vocal Band” or” Acapella”, both being quite dificult to tag.
I hope this is of some use to you
Regards
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I hope this is of some use to you
Yes, it was. Thanks for providing the info.