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Support => Questions => Topic started by: Steven on December 23, 2014, 12:52:14 PM
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I was planning to do a few of the wishlist items over the break but looking through the list its impossibly overwhelming now and some of the things are too hard for the time i have available.
So to help with the process, what are the 3 things you think most need to be improved/ needed or changed in MusicBee?
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My top wishes are:
- Track 1 of 15 and Disc 1 of 3 each in a single colum (like it shows in iTunes)
- When an album is not longer part of the current view (for example in a "played 0 times" playlist after playing all its tracks) it does not disappear from the album list until the view is reloaded
- After tracks are edited, the album list jumps back to the start. Makes it very hard to navigate.
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Dear Santa Claus :)
My sole wish (whatever the technical complexity is) for the time being is:
- (better) backwards synch of playcounts from Android players (not the official app, but apps like Rocket Player...), for podcasts mainly
Thanks
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- After tracks are edited, the album list jumps back to the start. Makes it very hard to navigate.
i will do the last 2 of these, but this specific one - i think thats probably quite specific to your settings so could you post a screenshot and describe in a bit more detail the panel you are using.
@klint, i doubt i will do this as i not aware of any standard approach that can be used
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@klint, i doubt i will do this as i not aware of any standard approach that can be used
I understand. But just wondering: if I was not the only one asking for this, what if MusicBee imagined and set a standard the other apps could adopt on request of their users? Like, maybe silly, but a simple mechanism of flag files next to the track files, containing the playcounts/ratings? or whatever else....
One could even imagine someone creating a single app that would fit to your requirements on one side, and fit the Last.fm API on the other side, acting as a middleware any player could scrobble to without any change...
Just thinking loud :)
Cheers
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Actually I have a second request :)
As I still always struggle with the various player modes (mini, compact, main normal and main expanded), would you mind adding an icon to the Compact player in the right side of the menubar in the 3 modes but the Compact one? So that one can jump easily from any mode to the other?
Thanks
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1. Ctrl+click to select multiple albums when grouped by artist in the expanded menu
2. Send To Folder (Copy) enabled for artwork view
http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=14500.0
3. iTunes 12 style tabs/filters
http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=14250.0
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Honestly, you've filled two of my biggest remaining requests with the changes to syncing and custom views recently. :) But here are three things that seem like you might reasonably be able to accomplish in short order:
1. Save without closing in the floating tag editor window
2. Set tag order in Tag Inspector
3. I can't make up my mind between the ability to sort by Sort tags in Artwork view without displaying them, or full editing functionality (right click menu functions) in expanded artwork view. Those are the two main reasons I rarely use Artwork view, so either one alone is less effective. Also why it gets third billing here. :)
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Adding musicbrainz identifiers natively instead of using virtual tags
Merry christmas everybody
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I'd like you to, during your break, take a fresh look on the menus of MB. Especially commands related to library and playlists are not well organized and not intuitive enough to new users. Other music organizer style player like iTunes & Foobar are far ahead of MB in this regard. Also, it would be nice to see technical jargons in menus and settings being replaced with layman's terms.
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@redwing, can you be more specific
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3. the ability to sort by Sort tags in Artwork view without displaying them, or full editing functionality (right click menu functions) in expanded artwork view.
you will need to explain both of these in more detail
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@Steven:
The issue happens if you have multiple albums that will be one album later.
For example if a multi-disc album has been tagged with the disc name inside the album name by some douchbag:
"The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway - CD1"
"The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway - CD2"
When you now set the CD (X of 2) correctly and name all files "The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway" in their album tag, there will now be 3 albums listed in the album list:
"The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway - CD1"
"The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway - CD2"
"The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway"
Only when you switch to another view and back the two wrong albums will vanish.
EDIT: Is there any way to motivate you to do Nr 1, too? :) I work a lot with Production Music and pretty much all my albums have multiple discs. The iTunes way ("X of X tracks" and "X of X discs") just saves so much space compared to having to show 4 columns. Or alternative another colum "discNumer - trackNumber of totalTracks", so "1-05/15" would also work.
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@Novatlian, resorting the album and tracks view after editing is intentionally not done as i felt it would be quite dis-orienting to users if the screen jumps around after an edit. If you press F5 it will force a refresh
for you first request you should be able to create a virtual tag that does it in one column
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actually i see your point - you were refering to the column browser so i will look into that
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Aah, _thats_ what virtual tags are for. Thanks, I got it working!
Mm, I see where you are coming from, but actually I find it more disorientating that it does not update the view^^
But yes, F5 of course works and if I'm the only one who hates this behaviour, I bow to the majority :) Or maybe a preference?
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- When an album is not longer part of the current view (for example in a "played 0 times" playlist after playing all its tracks) it does not disappear from the album list until the view is reloaded
what is the filter criteria you are using for this auto-playlist? are you using "PlayCount > 0" and "select by Album" ?
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Just Play count = 0.
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I have only 1 wish for now ))
Could you, Steven, implement writing primary artwork for plugins?
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Actually I have 1 more wish which I asked a long time ago: localizable standard playlist names. It should work like localizable .lngc filenames, but localization strings must be defined in currently used .lng/.lngc file, rather than internally for MB. Something like:
#Filename.Recently Played# <Localized "Recently Played">
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Just went through all my wishlist topics of the year, and these are the three I've come up with (all links below):
- Moving from Inbox Respect Auto-Organise (http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=14547.msg86770#msg86770)
- Use artwork dimensions as a usable field in filters (etc.) (http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=9070.msg81166#msg81166)
- To be able to configure the "keep" requirements in the duplicates manager (http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=11921.msg72495#msg72495)
Hope this helps Steven!
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Adding musicbrainz identifiers natively instead of using custom tags
- Use artwork dimensions as a usable field in filters (etc.) (http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=9070.msg81166#msg81166)
+1 to these
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3. the ability to sort by Sort tags in Artwork view without displaying them, or full editing functionality (right click menu functions) in expanded artwork view.
you will need to explain both of these in more detail
Well... never mind. You must have made some changes when I wasn't paying attention (or I was just confused - I had changed some settings that needed to be changed back). My bad! The only thing remaining would be to be able to paste artwork in Expanded artwork view. I think that's why I quit using it, because I often need to paste artwork.
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I'd like to see a way to reference devices for the auto-playlist.
For example, I would create a playlist of songs that would have an identifier "is not on ipod" or whatever device is plugged in. That way I'm not trying to sync songs that are already on the device. Plus it would make it easier to ensure all my devices don't have the same music on them.
Happy holidays, and merry new year, Steven. Thanks for a great program.
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Only one from me as well.
I'd like to see some sort of automatic cleaning of the now playing playlist.
Display only the current (now) playing track, and the enqueued tracks.
Once a track has been played, it should automatically fall off the now playing playlist.
Happy holidays to everyone having them, cheers!
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1. "Rescan/Add Files and Playlists"
When adding new music, you have to manually scroll through lots of folders to get to the specific folder you're looking for. In Win7 file explorer, you can press 'M' to get to the 'M' folders etc. It would be great to see that in MusicBee.
2. Ratings sync with (Android) phone:
I'm playing catch-up with my music (30k+) and trying to organise then and give them some sort of rating etc. At the moment, I'm stuck doing this at my desktop computer. I've love if it were possible to 'send' some music files to my phone so that I could rate them, and then resync them when I got back to my main desktop computer.
At the moment, I'm sending music files from the library to the inbox, rating them, and sending them back. Maybe have another 'inbox2' but the 'inbox2' would live on the phone?
3. I'm an iTunes refugee.
3(a). In iTunes, I set up playlists like Rock 5*, 4*, 3* etc. MB won't let me use the asterix (*) as the last 'letter'/character when naming playlists.
3(b). I'm guessing lots of people use the 5/4/3/2/1* rating system for their playlists. Maybe set-up an option that you can choose your criteria and then MB would automatically make a 5/4/3/2/1* playlist?
Thanks!
Wishing you a Happy Christmas :)
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- When an album is not longer part of the current view (for example in a "played 0 times" playlist after playing all its tracks) it does not disappear from the album list until the view is reloaded
its working fine for me and i see no reason for it not to be already working. Can you post a screenshot of that auto-playlist so i can see all the settings used.
However it wont reset the list in the Now Playing list by design
Could you, Steven, implement writing primary artwork for plugins?
thats done for the next v2.5 update. I will post you the new API call needed but not today
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Here's a screenshot of the playlist settings: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/104901/played0times.PNG
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Could you, Steven, implement writing primary artwork for plugins?
thats done for the next v2.5 update. I will post you the new API call needed but not today
Thanks a lot! I remembered my third wish: the ability to hide (unsupported) devices so MB wont interact with hidden devices at all. And the option to reset hidden status of all hidden devices.
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I'd like to see some sort of automatic cleaning of the now playing playlist.
Once a track has been played, it should automatically fall off the now playing playlist.
You can already do this.
Edit > Preferences > Now Playing
Enable the option to prune tracks as they are played.
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I'd like to see some sort of automatic cleaning of the now playing playlist.
Once a track has been played, it should automatically fall off the now playing playlist.
You can already do this.
Edit > Preferences > Now Playing
Enable the option to prune tracks as they are played.
That's marvelous just what I meant.
I was unfamiliar with the worth prune!
Thus, many thanks!
Cheers all!
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Here's a screenshot of the playlist settings: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/104901/played0times.PNG
MB automatically removes the album tracks for me using those settings. I dont want to spend any more time on this so i will leave it unsolved for your cases
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3. the ability to sort by Sort tags in Artwork view without displaying them, or full editing functionality (right click menu functions) in expanded artwork view.
you will need to explain both of these in more detail
Well... never mind. You must have made some changes when I wasn't paying attention (or I was just confused - I had changed some settings that needed to be changed back). My bad! The only thing remaining would be to be able to paste artwork in Expanded artwork view. I think that's why I quit using it, because I often need to paste artwork.
the only place i am aware Paste Artwork was not done was for Albums in the Albums sub-panel. Its done for the next v2.5 update.
Also changed is mousewheel on the Albums sub-panel now scrolls the Albums horizontally
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Just one, but an old one:
I would like to be able to prevent changing ratings for example together with the view "Main Player (Locked Down)" or as a separate option for all views but the inbox. Or as an alternative to be able to undo such changes.
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@redwing, can you be more specific
Have a look at the two players' File menu. I think they are well organized and meet the new user's needs quite well especially with commands for adding to library and handling playlists.
(http://i.imgur.com/tab9Snp.png)
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One more wish: Please add support for more virtual and custom tags instead of 16
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the only place i am aware Paste Artwork was not done was for Albums in the Albums sub-panel. Its done for the next v2.5 update.
Is there a Paste Artwork command here? I've never seen it. Copied an image before I took this screenshot:
(http://i.imgur.com/mTq9qdx.jpg?1)
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Since one of my wishes is already possible, may I be so cheeky and add a new one?
This is the one that irks me most and I have no idea how I could not mention it:
When selecting an entry in the column browser and then changing the tags of the files fitting the selection so that the selected item does not exist anymore, the list jumps back to the top.
Example:
Select composer "John Doe and Jane Doe".
Change it to "John Doe, Jane Doe"
As soon as you confirm the change, the list jumps back to "All (XXX Elements)". That makes editing tags very hard.
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- Moving from Inbox Respect Auto-Organise (http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=14547.msg86770#msg86770)
- Use artwork dimensions as a usable field in filters (etc.) (http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=9070.msg81166#msg81166)
- To be able to configure the "keep" requirements in the duplicates manager (http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=11921.msg72495#msg72495)
the first is done for the next update
can you explain what you mean by "configure the "keep" requirements"
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Is there a Paste Artwork command here? I've never seen it. Copied an image before I took this screenshot:
This is working now, thanks!
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unzip and replace the existing MusicBee files:
http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V2_5/MusicBee_Exe_Patched.zip
1. "Rescan/Add Files and Playlists"
When adding new music, you have to manually scroll through lots of folders to get to the specific folder you're looking for. In Win7 file explorer, you can press 'M' to get to the 'M' folders etc. It would be great to see that in MusicBee.
2. Set tag order in Tag Inspector
this is included now
- Moving from Inbox Respect Auto-Organise (http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=14547.msg86770#msg86770)
this is included now for the Send to Library command. It will display a popup dialog if the option is enabled and any files have missing tags, but the popup can be disabled
I'd like you to, during your break, take a fresh look on the menus of MB. Especially commands related to library and playlists are not well organized and not intuitive enough to new users. Other music organizer style player like iTunes & Foobar are far ahead of MB in this regard. Also, it would be nice to see technical jargons in menus and settings being replaced with layman's terms.
i have made some changes to the File menu and moved a couple of items from the Tools menu into the file menu.
It also now includes a new Import Playlists command to make it a bit more obvious for new users but can still be done from the "Add Files to Library" command.
The "Last.fm import playlist" commands are removed on the basis they can now be done with the last.fm playlist plugin for the people who want to do that
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- Moving from Inbox Respect Auto-Organise (http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=14547.msg86770#msg86770)
this is included now for the Send to Library command. It will display a popup dialog if the option is enabled and any files have missing tags, but the popup can be disabled
Brilliant, cheers Steven! I haven't had a chance to test it, but I'm assuming that it's working perfectly given your usual high standards.
can you explain what you mean by "configure the "keep" requirements"
Currently, MB chooses which of the duplicate files to keep in some way that I've never been able to figure out. This isn't actually much of a problem when you've only got a few duplicates. However, I was dealing with thousands a few months ago, and it would have been much easier if I could have told the duplicates manager to "Keep all files on C:. If none on C:, keep the longest file. If no longer file, keep the higher quality file" etc, as then I wouldn't have had to check the files as closely to make sure I wasn't deleting one I would want to keep.
EDIT: Just read through my original wishlist request. I've also written something about being able to sort the marked files which I was quite emphatic about. Don't have time to test and work out what I meant by that, but I'll get back to you.
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I'd like you to, during your break, take a fresh look on the menus of MB. Especially commands related to library and playlists are not well organized and not intuitive enough to new users. Other music organizer style player like iTunes & Foobar are far ahead of MB in this regard. Also, it would be nice to see technical jargons in menus and settings being replaced with layman's terms.
i have made some changes to the File menu and moved a couple of items from the Tools menu into the file menu.
It also now includes a new Import Playlists command to make it a bit more obvious for new users but can still be done from the "Add Files to Library" command.
The "Last.fm import playlist" commands are removed on the basis they can now be done with the last.fm playlist plugin for the people who want to do that
Great improvement!
The only thing that's still missing is "Add Files to Library" command, as the current "Add Files to Library" command is actually "Add Folders to Library", which means MB doesn't support importing selected file(s) from a folder through menu commands.
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2. Set tag order in Tag Inspector
this is included now
Thank you! Just tested, works great for one file at a time. I can't seem to get it to work for multiple files at one, whether they have the same tags to begin with or not.
Also, the addition of the "Synchronize <Device>" command to the File Menu fills an old request of mine. Now I can synchronize without switching to the Device node!
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@psychoadept, i wont spend any more time on the tag inspector change. For the Synchronise command in the file menu, its always been there!
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The only thing that's still missing is "Add Files to Library" command, as the current "Add Files to Library" command is actually "Add Folders to Library", which means MB doesn't support importing selected file(s) from a folder through menu commands.
yes was aware of that but thats a good suggestion to rename it and then i can also include "Add files" without causing confusion
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actually i decided to call the existing command "Scan Folders for New Files"
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@psychoadept, i wont spend any more time on the tag inspector change. For the Synchronise command in the file menu, its always been there!
LOL, the things I miss! I guess I just never thought to look there when I needed it.
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The only thing that's still missing is "Add Files to Library" command, as the current "Add Files to Library" command is actually "Add Folders to Library", which means MB doesn't support importing selected file(s) from a folder through menu commands.
yes was aware of that but thats a good suggestion to rename it and then i can also include "Add files" without causing confusion
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actually i decided to call the existing command "Scan Folders for New Files"
Excellent! New users will appreciate these changes.
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Did I make it back from holidays in time to add mine?
1: This one, personal/universal ratings (http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=8803.0), as you already said you had an idea (http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=8803.msg80341#msg80341) for this to work
2: And this one, show all artwork (http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=12934.0), as I'd really like a way to display, in the artwork view, all the album art I have linked to a release.
3: If I can't have this one (http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=14546.0) reconsidered, than list genres (http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=12681.0) would be my third choice.
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- Moving from Inbox Respect Auto-Organise (http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=14547.msg86770#msg86770)
this is included now for the Send to Library command. It will display a popup dialog if the option is enabled and any files have missing tags, but the popup can be disabled
there is a bug in the last version so it wont work in all cases. It is fixed for the next update
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Mine would be being able to use something like this mp3tag rateyourmusic script : https://preview.cubbyusercontent.com/pli/RateYourMusic_03.zip/_8df0d6fcf7fb40f7902e8506bf48f7c7
(from the last post in this thread http://forums.mp3tag.de/index.php?showtopic=10178&st=15)
In the auto-tag album thing in Musicbee itself.
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i am locking this topic now - any new requests should be created as a separate topic. I will still do a few of the items already requested
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- Moving from Inbox Respect Auto-Organise (http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=14547.msg86770#msg86770)
this is included now for the Send to Library command. It will display a popup dialog if the option is enabled and any files have missing tags, but the popup can be disabled
there is a bug in the last version so it wont work in all cases. It is fixed for the next update
http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V2_5/MusicBee_Exe_Patched.zip
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unzip and replace the existing files:
http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V2_5/MusicBee_Exe_Patched.zip
I would like to be able to prevent changing ratings for example together with the view "Main Player (Locked Down)" or as a separate option for all views but the inbox. Or as an alternative to be able to undo such changes.
i have included rating changes in the undo function
Actually I have 1 more wish which I asked a long time ago: localizable standard playlist names. It should work like localizable .lngc filenames, but localization strings must be defined in currently used .lng/.lngc file, rather than internally for MB. Something like:
they are in the next translation file. Note that it only works for new users and wont rename existing playlists
#Main.menu.RecAdd# Recently Added
#Main.menu.RecPlay# Recently Played
#Main.menu.Top25Pl# Top 25 Most Played
#Main.menu.TopRated# Top Rated