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Title: Vertical artwork view
Post by: redwing on October 06, 2013, 05:54:40 PM
iTunes 11 has one very useful and good-looking layout. It's called artist view and looks like this:


(http://i.imgur.com/JfnwvWq.png) (http://imgur.com/JfnwvWq)


How can MB achieve this kind of layout? Currently we can use library explorer or a vertical track browser with artist field selected. But they are just a list of artist names and can't show any pictures. Hence why not support a vertical artwork view? MB can already show artist pictures instead of iTunes' album cover when grouped by artist, and can also show album artwork, composers as a grouping field. Then we can get a picture list in a vertical panel on the left and Album and Tracks view on the right for the selected artist.

I checked out the wishlist board for a similar idea, and found this thread (http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=5960.0), but that's a little different proposal from this. Thanks for considering this.
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: vivadavid on October 08, 2013, 10:03:49 AM
redwing, I like the layout you're showing. If this could be implemented, while keeping the other views, it'd be a great improvement.

+1
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: ma_t14 on October 09, 2013, 02:27:04 AM
I love this!

Maybe this could be implemented by extending the track browser's functionality to allow artist images?

+1
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: Xyzzy on October 09, 2013, 08:00:05 AM
This is just Library Explorer with images drawn for nodes and placed in a new way.
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: Steven on November 09, 2013, 03:04:29 PM
just done for the main panel (i probably wont dont this for the library explorer unless there are a number of requests for that)
it will be enabled by default for new users only. To activate, click the panel layout button and choose "Thumbnail Browser" and the grouping you want.
For genres, you can create your own .jpg pictures in folder "MusicBee\icons\Genre"
I suggest you size them at 240x240 as i will also use them for when i enable grouping the artwork layout by genre.

Its not 100% complete - i will round off some of the right click handling. Also i am aware it doesnt show all the files with certain combinations of switching the main panel layout and having track browser items selected

http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V2_3/MusicBee_Exe_Patched.zip
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: Thorbjorn on November 09, 2013, 03:48:38 PM
Not sure why, but it doesn't work for me. It shows all artist even if I select one.
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: Thorbjorn on November 09, 2013, 03:53:02 PM
Ok the reason was that I had selected all artists in the track browser which was working even if it was hidden. Is this intended?
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: Steven on November 09, 2013, 05:35:51 PM
its fixed now - i will post a link later
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: Steven on November 09, 2013, 07:30:32 PM
this has the fix for the above and also when switching thumb types with a thumb item selected

http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V2_3/MusicBee_Exe_Patched.zip
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: ma_t14 on November 09, 2013, 07:46:43 PM
There seems to be a visual glitch for me which is more obvious in darker skins. Sometimes a white border appears around the thumbnail browser and goes away, albeit only partly, when switching views.

Video demo: http://screencast.com/t/aa55yw4o

Apart from that this feature is great!

EDIT
The glitch seems to go away completely when resizing the panel
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: ma_t14 on November 09, 2013, 07:56:27 PM
The only thing I would like to see in a future version is the ability to select larger sized thumbnails for people with large monitors.
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: Steven on November 09, 2013, 08:07:45 PM
this should fix the visual glitch:
http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V2_3/MusicBee_Exe_Patched.zip
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: ma_t14 on November 09, 2013, 08:13:43 PM
Fixed
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: redwing on November 09, 2013, 08:48:21 PM
Thanks for implementing this! Working great!

- bug: when column browser is enabled, the content of <Other fields> and <Custom Sort> are messed up.
- Would be great if right-clicking Artist icon gives the option of selecting Album Artist and Composer too.
- Would be useful if it's possible to sort by track count
- Hotkey and toolbar button support for on/off the browser
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: Iasc on November 10, 2013, 09:58:29 AM
when the thumbnail browser is disabled it still shows when drilling down in artwork view. it does disappear after restarting musicbee though.
(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7936/sh2i.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/17/sh2i.png/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: Steven on November 10, 2013, 11:49:56 AM
this should fix the bugs reported by iasc and redwing
http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V2_3/MusicBee_Exe_Patched.zip
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: Iasc on November 10, 2013, 12:07:22 PM
this should fix the bugs reported by iasc and redwing
http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V2_3/MusicBee_Exe_Patched.zip


that fixed it
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: SimonBRT on November 10, 2013, 01:15:50 PM
this is a really fantastic addition.  made me rethink my age old layouts!  great stuff.
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: mrad on November 10, 2013, 03:53:13 PM
This could also work in the artist column of the "track browser"
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: psychoadept on November 10, 2013, 04:58:25 PM
This could also work in the artist column of the "track browser"

Huh?  There is an artist version.
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: Steven on November 10, 2013, 05:34:46 PM
i think mrad means that the artist thumbnail panel could replace the artist column in the track browser.
I didnt do that because it would look inconsistent, is better suited to a vertical layout and allows a greater degree of flexibility by having both the track browser and the new thumb panel
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: mikebo on November 10, 2013, 06:28:22 PM
You've done a great job Steven. I really like the genre icon.

One issue i've noticed is that double clicking in the thumbnail browser doesn't do anything, whereas in column browser it queues and plays the selection.
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: SimonBRT on November 10, 2013, 08:02:34 PM
... I really like the genre icon.

I thought this too!
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: Steven on November 10, 2013, 08:25:32 PM
http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V2_3/MusicBee_Exe_Patched.zip

- now supports Album Artist and Composer as artist types
- hotkey to open/ close the panel
- Paste Artwork right click command for artist and genre pictures only (genre pictures need admin permissions to save the pictures)
- double click to play now supported
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: Bee-liever on November 10, 2013, 08:47:49 PM
looks good!  :)

nice addition to the range of MB layouts

thank you, redwing, for your suggestion
thank you, Steven, for your work on implementation
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: redwing on November 10, 2013, 09:00:52 PM
Thanks for the constant improvement! Working great!

Would be useful if A-Z jump bar supports thumbnail browser when it has focus.

Noticed a weird bug. To reproduce:
- Show two columns of vertical column browser and thumbnail browser
- Select an item one by one from left to right
- Then go back and select another item in the middle column (second column of column browser). Then items in that column start disappearing with mouse-over.

<added>
OK, I realized it's not a bug per se. It happens because it's used as if it's a third column of column browser when it's not. But some handling would be needed for such usage.
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: Steven on November 10, 2013, 09:19:01 PM
OK, I realized it's not a bug per se. It happens because it's used as if it's a third column of column browser when it's not. But some handling would be needed for such usage.
i tried following your steps and cant reproduce any incorrect behavior. I dont understand what you mean by the above, especially "used as if it's a third column". You only refer to 2 browser columns in your steps. If you mean the thumbnail browser as the 3rd column then selecting items in it shouldnt affect the other 2 columns - if thats what you are saying then there must be more steps involved than what has been said

Would be useful if A-Z jump bar supports thumbnail browser when it has focus.
when you click the a-z bar the previous control loses focus so i doubt i would implement that. You can already just press the first letter(s) in the panel to jump to an item
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: redwing on November 10, 2013, 09:26:12 PM
I meant two columns of column browser plus thumbnail browser, three columns in total.
It's like this: you select Beethoven for first column, Symphony for second column. Then select Karajan for thumbnail browser.
Then go back and select Piano Sonata for second column. But of course there's no Piano Sonata done by Karajan. So the selected item disappears. Then all other items in the second column start disappearing with mouse-over.
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: vivadavid on November 10, 2013, 09:30:09 PM
Very nice addition, Steven: thanks!

I don't know what people would think about it, but I'd prefer to have the total number of albums, rather than the total number of tracks (as consistent with the main papel when albums are grouped by artist).
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: Steven on November 10, 2013, 09:35:47 PM
i still cant reproduce any incorrect behavior. The thumbnail browser will update according to the files filtered by text search and items selected the column browsers. So I would expect the thumbnail browser to refresh if you changed the column browser selection but the new items shouldnt show only when you mouse over them ie. the new results should show straight away.
If you do have video recording capabilities then it would be helpful to see what you mean but otherwise i will leave this
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: redwing on November 10, 2013, 09:46:41 PM
Found two other conditions: track count should be enabled and the two columns need to be sorted by track count.

Let me know if you still can't reproduce it.
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: redwing on November 10, 2013, 09:59:50 PM
Here's a video capture: [link removed]
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: Steven on November 10, 2013, 10:14:54 PM
i think i know what might be going on - could you try this version:
http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V2_3/MusicBee_Exe_Patched.zip
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: redwing on November 10, 2013, 10:19:57 PM
Yes, it's fixed now. Thanks!
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: ProfessorMarvel on November 10, 2013, 11:53:27 PM
I am really enjoying this feature!

However, with the composer option selected, I was expecting it to display the matching tracks for the 'composer' field. However, when I click on a composer name, most  matches are blank. The only ones that display are where the artist name is the same as the composer. I think it is filtering on the artist field instead of composer field.

Am I right? Can anyone else verify this?
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: Steven on November 11, 2013, 06:57:51 AM
yes you are correct
the link is updated with the fix:
http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V2_3/MusicBee_Exe_Patched.zip
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: fossii on November 11, 2013, 07:18:01 AM
I want to use this new feature, with the genre tag:
I have a genre called 'Electronic' so i downloaded a jpeg and resize it to 240x240 px. Then I moved this pic into the Folder:
Musicbee/icons/Genre - the name of the pic is Electronic

But in musicbee it doesn't show this picture - i see the standard symbol.

Can anybody help?

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: redwing on November 11, 2013, 08:24:51 AM
Put "s" to the folder name: MusicBee/Icons/Genres
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: fossii on November 11, 2013, 08:34:39 AM
Now it works - Thank you
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: SimonBRT on November 11, 2013, 01:14:47 PM
I don't know what people would think about it, but I'd prefer to have the total number of albums, rather than the total number of tracks (as consistent with the main papel when albums are grouped by artist).
+1
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: ProfessorMarvel on November 11, 2013, 02:44:20 PM
yes you are correct
the link is updated with the fix:
http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V2_3/MusicBee_Exe_Patched.zip

Works! Thanks for the quick reply/fix!
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: mikebo on November 11, 2013, 07:32:17 PM
Ok, after some more testing i've found following bugs:

(http://i.imgur.com/7ZHfA0E.png)
1. There is a 1px gap between the selection box and the scrollbar.
2. Selected text is drawn with a solid background color, which doesn't blend well with gradient selection background.

suggestions:
3. There's already a skin setting for artwork border color, so maybe it could be used in this view as well.
4. Larger left margin in thumbnail browser would look nicer and more consistent with other lists, but that's just my opinion.
(http://i.imgur.com/2q0S7qw.png)
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: redwing on November 11, 2013, 08:33:04 PM
4. Larger left margin in thumbnail browser would look nicer and more consistent with other lists, but that's just my opinion.

+1
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: redwing on November 11, 2013, 08:49:22 PM
When switching to another artist type, the number of tracks displayed for each item in thumbnail browser doesn't match with what's shown in the main panel.
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: Steven on November 11, 2013, 09:35:22 PM
http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V2_3/MusicBee_Exe_Patched.zip

When switching to another artist type, the number of tracks displayed for each item in thumbnail browser doesn't match with what's shown in the main panel.
if one of the artists was selected at the time then its incorrectly only reloading the files only of that one artist. If thats what you mean then thats fixed

1. There is a 1px gap between the selection box and the scrollbar.
2. Selected text is drawn with a solid background color, which doesn't blend well with gradient selection background.
3. There's already a skin setting for artwork border color, so maybe it could be used in this view as well.
4. Larger left margin in thumbnail browser would look nicer and more consistent with other lists, but that's just my opinion.
1 should already have been fixed and 2 should be fixed now. I made a small indent increase for 4 and not done anything for 3

other changes:
- it now shows album count for Artists and Genres if the main panel layout is Album and Tracks or Artwork
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: redwing on November 11, 2013, 09:49:45 PM
When switching to another artist type, the number of tracks displayed for each item in thumbnail browser doesn't match with what's shown in the main panel.
if one of the artists was selected at the time then its incorrectly only reloading the files only of that one artist. If thats what you mean then thats fixed

Working better. The only inconsistency left is when switching to another type, thumbnail browser gets reset to "all artists(composers)", but main panel still shows previous filtered results.
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: Steven on November 11, 2013, 10:04:42 PM
yes you are right.
http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V2_3/MusicBee_Exe_Patched.zip
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: redwing on November 11, 2013, 10:09:10 PM
Working fine now. Thanks!
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: mikebo on November 11, 2013, 10:21:15 PM
- it now shows album count for Artists and Genres if the main panel layout is Album and Tracks or Artwork
Very clever

Steven do you think the work you did on the thumbnail browser could be used to create a now playing list layout i proposed here (http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=9199.msg53885#msg53885) (the second one)?
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: redwing on November 13, 2013, 07:56:45 AM
@ma_t14:

The only thing I would like to see in a future version is the ability to select larger sized thumbnails for people with large monitors.

This is off-topic, but I'm just curious while reading some article: how does MB look on your 2K monitor? (I'm assuming you're on Windows 8.1) Look blurry or crisp? And what about TM views' scaling in full-screen mode?
 
"That said, Windows 8.1 does not somehow fix the inconsistent behavior of third-party desktop apps when you're using Windows' scaling features. The Start screen and apps from the Windows Store mostly look great, but on the desktop the state of things is the same as it was when we reviewed the Kirabook. Some applications just look blurry, some are crisp but exhibit odd rendering problems, and others ignore the scaling settings entirely."

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/06/windows-8-1-and-high-ppi-displays-better-but-still-lacking/
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: Steven on November 15, 2013, 08:56:56 AM
this fixes an introduced bug with this layout:
http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V2_3/MusicBee_Exe_Patched.zip
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: vivadavid on November 15, 2013, 10:22:41 AM
This is off-topic, Steven, but since you're already providing betas for version 2.3, will you release the final 2.2 soon? I've been testing with MB a lot and I'd love to have a clean portable installation. Thanks!
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: KissCool on November 17, 2013, 12:18:22 PM
Really nice feature!

@Steven
Could you add "Genre Category", plz?

Steven do you think the work you did on the thumbnail browser could be used to create a now playing list layout i proposed here (http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=9199.msg53885#msg53885) (the second one)?

+1
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: Iowaseven on November 18, 2013, 07:05:31 AM
Love this feature! Could you please make it so that we can increase the size of the image, i.e. the size of the box each artist/genera is displayed in?
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: Steven on November 18, 2013, 07:01:46 PM
this added support for "Genre Category" and "Grouping" (use the genres icon folder to show your own icons for both)
and has optional support for larger thumbnails (56x56)

http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V2_3/MusicBee_Exe_Patched.zip
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: KissCool on November 18, 2013, 08:45:22 PM
Nice, thank you!

Off topic: what about adding "Grouping" to the Artwork panel layout too? We can actually group by album, album artist, sort album artist, artist, sort artist, composer or sort composer. Adding "grouping" here would make sens IMHO.
Would be really usefull for managing Box set, separating release type & status (album / compilation / live / single...) or giving more flexibility for managing "classical" music.
The ability to copy/paste an artwork when we group by "grouping", like we can do for artists and composers would be nice too.
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: Iowaseven on November 18, 2013, 09:55:06 PM
Fantastic! The bigger the better :)
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: klint on November 18, 2013, 10:12:51 PM
Installed MB 5070, really nice vertical artwork view.

Maybe one small issue though: when viewing with the vertical view with all albums, if I delete a track then the vertical view gets reduced to the only album the deleted belonged to.
Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: Barbie-qu on November 19, 2013, 11:09:31 AM
When sorting by Album Artist, if a track's Album Artist tag is empty, the track is shown in both the 'Empty' category at the top of the browser, and additionally below it.
 I would expect all tracks without Artist Album metadata to be collected in the 'Empty' category, and everything else to be listed below.

Also, when editing metadata of tracks after choosing the 'Empty' category, after saving, the position of the main browser window resets to the top rather than keeping focus where it is
 
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: Steven on November 19, 2013, 11:27:23 AM
Album Artist is treated exactly the same way as it is in the column browser and i'm not willing to change that ie. if there is no album artist tag then it uses the artist tag instead - i think most people would prefer it this way
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: Barbie-qu on November 19, 2013, 03:12:03 PM
Quote
Album Artist is treated exactly the same way as it is in the column browser; ie. if there is no album artist tag then it uses the artist tag instead
Ok, that's fine.
Is it impossible to make a track only appear in the 'Empty' category  then?
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: redwing on November 19, 2013, 04:39:26 PM
When sorting by Album Artist, if a track's Album Artist tag is empty, the track is shown in both the 'Empty' category at the top of the browser, and additionally below it.

If a track appears in 'Empty' category, it must have neither Album Artist value nor Artist value. Any tracks having an Artist value won't appear in that category regardless of its Album Artist value.

Currently the only way to identify no-Album Artist value tracks with MB is to use a filter or an auto-playlist with the rule of containing a/no value for that field (virtual tags won't help either).
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: Barbie-qu on November 19, 2013, 06:49:02 PM
Thanks for the clarification.
Strangely the 'Empty' category has now disappeared, and I can't get the behaviour to repeat.

I like this new feature though. Thank you.
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: Alumni on November 21, 2013, 12:51:22 PM
I've been playing around with this vertical view and it works great.

I'd like to make a suggestion, a side-by-side layout similar to the column browser. I made this mock-up to demonstrate what I mean;

(http://i.imgur.com/OsFyyhx.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/OsFyyhx.jpg)
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: KissCool on November 21, 2013, 05:42:25 PM
Dunno if it's intended, but when you select an album, then a track with the Artwork layout, the thumbnail browser only show the album artist of this album, while with the Album & Tracks layout, it still show the complete album artists list (the album artist of the selected track is just highlighted).
IMO, the thumbnail browser with the Artwork layout should work like it does with the Album and tracks layout. It's a lot easier to jump to another artist, while showing only one artist in the thumbnail browser is quiete useless. Highlighting the selected artist is enough.


just done for the main panel (i probably wont dont this for the library explorer unless there are a number of requests for that)
I'd really like to have the thumbnail brower for the library explorer. Would give more flexibility to MB layout:
Left panel & thumbnail browser side by side
(http://imageshack.com/a/img200/7332/0z3w.jpg) (http://imageshack.com/a/img200/7332/0z3w.jpg)

Now playing & library explorer (thumbnail browser) stacked in left panel:
(http://imageshack.com/a/img31/4323/urw2.jpg) (http://imageshack.com/a/img31/4323/urw2.jpg)
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: Steven on November 21, 2013, 05:48:53 PM
Dunno if it's intended, but when you select an album, then a track with the Artwork layout, the thumbnail browser only show the album artist of this album, while with the Album & Tracks layout, it still show the complete album artists list (the album artist of the selected track is just highlighted).
if you are referring to double clicking on a picture to drill down into the tracks of the album then the thumb browser will reflect the artists of the album. If thats what you mean i dont see how its comparable to using the album and tracks layout and not something i would change
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: KissCool on November 21, 2013, 07:58:06 PM
Forgive what I said. How the thumbnail browser is working atm is just fine. What I was talking about is just a specific case and wouldn't fit to most of cases.
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: Steven on November 26, 2013, 08:19:39 PM
this fixes a couple of bugs and now shows tooltips for cut off text:
http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V2_3/MusicBee_Exe_Patched.zip
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: SimonBRT on November 27, 2013, 12:59:54 PM
@KissCool - Have you shared the skin in those screens above?  It looks pretty damn nice!
Title: Re: Vertical artwork view
Post by: KissCool on November 28, 2013, 05:21:05 PM
@KissCool - Have you shared the skin in those screens above?  It looks pretty damn nice!

Thank you.
I only skinned the elements I need for my layout, therefore I can't share it for now.