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General => MusicBee Wishlist => Topic started by: Bee-liever on October 03, 2013, 10:45:59 PM

Title: access to Multiple Artist Splitter entries
Post by: Bee-liever on October 03, 2013, 10:45:59 PM
with reference to the recent problem here (http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=10834.0)
it would be less likely to cause problems and path conflicts if the items "Display Artist", "Guest Artist", "Performer" and "Remixer" were already available in the right-hand column here
(http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/1341/g2ai.jpg)

without having to be defined here
(http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/5521/mg61.jpg)

just like "Album Artist Sort-Order", "Album Sort-Order", etc currently are
Title: Re: access to Multiple Artist Splitter entries
Post by: psychoadept on October 03, 2013, 10:55:54 PM
with reference to the recent problem here (http://getmusicbee.com/forum/index.php?topic=10834.0)
it would be less likely to cause problems and path conflicts if the items "Display Artist", "Guest Artist", "Performer" and "Remixer" were already available in the right-hand column here
(http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/1341/g2ai.jpg)

without having to be defined here
(http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/5521/mg61.jpg)

just like "Album Artist Sort-Order", "Album Sort-Order", etc currently are

+1

Since getting these to work as custom tags seems to be buggy otherwise, I think they need to be integrated into MusicBee so it knows what to do with them.
Title: Re: access to Multiple Artist Splitter entries
Post by: Bee-liever on October 05, 2013, 09:48:36 PM
Well scampbll, from the absence of +1's I'd have to conclude that you and I are the only ones trying to use those tags to their full extent or we're the only two finding them buggy  ;D 

C'est la vie  :)
Title: Re: access to Multiple Artist Splitter entries
Post by: mrad on October 06, 2013, 12:05:39 AM
I tried to understand why/when/how these are utilised for best effect, but I failed miserably so I couldn't add a vote :( I suspect others will be the same. Is there a wiki page on the uses? Or a tips page?
Title: Re: access to Multiple Artist Splitter entries
Post by: Bee-liever on October 06, 2013, 01:36:41 AM
Is there a wiki page on the uses?

here you are: http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Multiple_Artists#Multiple_Tag_Splitter (http://musicbee.wikia.com/wiki/Multiple_Artists#Multiple_Tag_Splitter)
Title: Re: access to Multiple Artist Splitter entries
Post by: psychoadept on October 06, 2013, 02:38:05 AM
@mrad, here's an example of how I use multiple artists:

Display Artist: Indigo Girls feat. P!nk
Artist: Indigo Girls
Guest Artist: P!nk
Performer: Emily Saliers
Performer: Amy Ray

I would like to be able to configure fields like Guest Artist and Performer as custom tags so that I can easily find out if a track is tagged correctly without digging into the Multiple Artist splitter for each individual track.  Also, I use Picard for tagging and it sometimes inserts values into the Performer field which need to be cleaned up.
Title: Re: access to Multiple Artist Splitter entries
Post by: Diederik on December 12, 2013, 07:13:47 PM
This is a nice suggestion. Considering that you can assign values to the tags <Guest Artist>, <Remixer>, and <Performer>, it was a bit odd for me to discover that they are not supported anywhere else in MusicBee. I would like to be able to select some of these fields for display in the main or playing track panel, so it would be nice if this could be implemented in some fashion.
Title: Re: access to Multiple Artist Splitter entries
Post by: Steven on December 13, 2013, 04:35:46 PM
they are supported in that the column browser, thumbnail browser and library explorer show them for searching/ filtering.
I will probably create a function so each role can be displayed separately via a virtual tag and also allow them to be handled in custom tags
Title: Re: access to Multiple Artist Splitter entries
Post by: psychoadept on December 14, 2013, 08:06:14 PM
I will probably create a function so each role can be displayed separately via a virtual tag and also allow them to be handled in custom tags

This is the most exciting thing I've heard since being able to search the whole library.  Thank you!
Title: Re: access to Multiple Artist Splitter entries
Post by: Steven on December 15, 2013, 11:01:09 AM
i have added support for the following tags:
Genres
Artists
Artists: Artist
Artists: Performer
Artists: Guest
Artists: Remixer

They can be used as any display/ filtering tag and are accessible in the Virtual Tags category for the right click field selector popups
Its in the next v2.3 update
Title: Re: access to Multiple Artist Splitter entries
Post by: Steven on December 15, 2013, 06:32:28 PM
this has the new tag codes as described above:
http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V2_3/MusicBee_Exe_Patched.zip

for now i have put them codes under the Virtual Tags menu item in the fields selector but i plan to change the fields selector at some point so all fields are all accessible from the same popup
Title: Re: access to Multiple Artist Splitter entries
Post by: psychoadept on December 15, 2013, 07:47:34 PM
Folks, don't install this yet if you've spent a lot of time setting Performer, etc.  [Fixed!]

@Steven, I can display the fields in the main panel, that works great.  But there's nothing in them.  All my multiple artist have reverted to "Artist".  If I try to change it, they change right back to Artist.  This happens with both MP3 and FLAC.  Here's a screenshot:

(http://i.imgur.com/bhwM1LI.png?1)
Title: Re: access to Multiple Artist Splitter entries
Post by: Steven on December 15, 2013, 07:58:45 PM
yes i see it is not reading the roles. This should correct the error:
http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V2_3/MusicBee_Exe_Patched.zip

however you would need to re-edit the roles for any files you saved with the tag editor
Title: Re: access to Multiple Artist Splitter entries
Post by: psychoadept on December 15, 2013, 08:01:55 PM
That's got it!  They showed up as soon as I started MB again.  Thanks for the quick fix!
Title: Re: access to Multiple Artist Splitter entries
Post by: Bee-liever on December 15, 2013, 08:36:08 PM
Steven, thank you very much  :)
This is greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: access to Multiple Artist Splitter entries
Post by: psychoadept on December 15, 2013, 09:55:56 PM
Do you plan to make it possible to use these in virtual tags?
Title: Re: access to Multiple Artist Splitter entries
Post by: Steven on December 15, 2013, 10:07:23 PM
you can use them in virtual tags (i know they arent accessible via the ... menu button but i am going to change the field selector)
eg.
$IsNull(<Artists: Performer>,,<Artists: Performer>)

Title: Re: access to Multiple Artist Splitter entries
Post by: psychoadept on December 15, 2013, 10:18:24 PM
You're right, thanks!  I probably didn't enter the tag name correctly when I tried it before.
Title: Re: access to Multiple Artist Splitter entries
Post by: Diederik on December 16, 2013, 11:14:20 AM
Thanks Steven! This makes the programme's display functions even more comprehensive.
Title: Re: access to Multiple Artist Splitter entries
Post by: psychoadept on December 16, 2013, 02:39:52 PM
As an example of how useful this is, I've created a virtual tag as follows:

$IsNull(<Display Artist>,,A)$IsNull(<Artists: Performer>,,P)$IsNull(<Artists: Guest>,,G)$IsNull(<Artists: Remixer>,,R)$IsNull(<Musicians>,,M)

With that tag in the main panel, I can instantly see which tracks I've already set the correct values for (and need to be careful about editing!), as well as which ones might need attention.
Title: Re: access to Multiple Artist Splitter entries
Post by: Sambada on December 16, 2013, 08:46:30 PM

 Wow.  For anyone who's really particular about the details attributed to their music, this will be a godsend.  I don't know if I'll try to use this immediately because, gosh, the adjustments on so large a collection will be painful, but I'm grateful for the option.

 Steven, you rock.  Thank you.
Title: Re: access to Multiple Artist Splitter entries
Post by: Steven on December 19, 2013, 07:05:33 PM
i have changed it so when editing the artist in the Tags(1) panel of the tag editor, it no longer resets the associated artists ie. it only updates the display artist value.
Its in the next v2.3 update
Title: Re: access to Multiple Artist Splitter entries
Post by: psychoadept on December 19, 2013, 07:06:37 PM
i have changed it so when editing the artist in the Tags(1) panel of the tag editor, it no longer resets the associated artists ie. it only updates the display artist value.
Its in the next v2.3 update

That's fantastic!
Title: Re: access to Multiple Artist Splitter entries
Post by: Steven on December 21, 2013, 11:36:20 AM
this has the change:
http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V2_3/MusicBee_Exe_Patched.zip