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Title: Countries Flags
Post by: ThY on September 13, 2013, 02:37:59 PM
Hello !
I'm coming with a simple suggestion: could it be possible to add and shape a "Country" tag field somewhere, that will be a list offcourse, associated with flags icons ?

I made a photoshopped example to illustrate this:

(http://i72.servimg.com/u/f72/12/67/24/73/th/flags10.jpg) (http://i72.servimg.com/u/f72/12/67/24/73/flags10.jpg)

In the best case, it should be also possible to have multiple countries and flags, for groups like "13 & God" in my example, which are merged groups.
I thought it could be technically possible to do that, because it's almost like the "loved tracks" icon system, but with more variables.

In the worst case, just have the little flag icon on the "Now playing" window would be great ^^
What do you think about that ?
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: mrad on September 13, 2013, 04:39:18 PM
my first thought is ... why ?
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: ThY on September 13, 2013, 05:05:38 PM
Well... why not ?
Some people display the bitrates of their songs while they're listening to them, so why countries of origin of the artists would be that useless to display ?

When you look at the way musical artists are described or tagged everywhere, first thing that comes is the country where they come from.
So why not have this kind of tag embellished with flag icons in MusicBee ?
Rather than have a new text line on the info panel, an icon would be more pleasant.

I don't know if anybody is tagging their artists with their country of origin, but it can help for personal statistics, curiosity, creating new kind of playlists,... or whatever.
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: mrad on September 13, 2013, 05:20:48 PM
Well... why not ?
Some people display the bitrates of their songs while they're listening to them,
Yup, bitrate display adds value where one can determine if a higher or lower quality version can be achieved.

so why countries of origin of the artists would be that useless to display ?

When you look at the way musical artists are described or tagged everywhere, first thing that comes is the country where they come from.
I understand articles may publish artist origin, but I never hear people say "Hey band x are from America you know", I cant see many folk redoing tags for this either,

So why not have this kind of tag embellished with flag icons in MusicBee ?
Because this will bloat MB with flag graphics and code for little or no real added value.

Rather than have a new text line on the info panel, an icon would be more pleasant.
Or an overdose of little images where there are already enough on the UI.

I don't know if anybody is tagging their artists with their country of origin, but it can help for personal statistics, curiosity, creating new kind of playlists,... or whatever.
Hmm, again, to play tunes from America is rather vague. A mood filter would make for a better playlist. I am not convinced. But hey, that's only my opinion.
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: ThY on September 13, 2013, 06:43:50 PM
Yup, bitrate display adds value where one can determine if a higher or lower quality version can be achieved.
On my side, i check bitrates when encoding or stocking my files on my hard drive, i don't use MusicBee for technical purposes.
I think not that many people care of the audio quality of their files, really, but i don't blame the fact that you can display it on MB, from the moment when you can choose to display it or not.
It's the same thing with my "wish" here, you could be able to choose to display it or not, i don't propose to force everyone to do so.

I understand articles may publish artist origin, but I never hear people say "Hey band x are from America you know", I cant see many folk redoing tags for this either,
Again, i didn't propose everyone to re-tag their tracks, because some people already have their files tagged with "country of origin".
You assume here that nobody use this kind of tag, you just have to check the number of artists on LastFm that are tagged with their country of origin to understand that some people just care, when other people just don't care about bitrates ^^

Because this will bloat MB with flag graphics and code for little or no real added value.
Well, i think that if this feature was implemented, i won't like to have flags everywhere on a column like on my photoshopped screenshot.
But i will definitely love to have a single little tiny icon under my cover art (where others would prefer to have the path to the file).
And i don't think a single small icon, that you can choose to display or not will have that negative impact on the interface.
Especially when you look at some screenshots, where some people just like to be surrounded with informations everywhere.
I do prefer clean layout myself, so i don't think that this argument is that valid.

For the code part, if it put real concerns to implement, developers will explain it themselves i think. This post is in the "wishlist" part of the forum, so it's an idea among others.

For the "real added value", it's just subjective as i tried to explain it before.

Hmm, again, to play tunes from America is rather vague. A mood filter would make for a better playlist. I am not convinced. But hey, that's only my opinion.
Yes, and ofcourse you have the right to tell me your opinion, and i understand it
But, when you think a mood filter suits better for a playlist, while i just don't use mood tags, i have to answer to that anyway.
My proposal was not about the tags themselves, anyone can currently create them. The suggestion was about the association with a flag icon, just like the "loved track icon" allows you to watch a picture rather than a text line that would say "Loved Track" or "Not loved Track" ;)

I hope it looks better when explained like that  ;D
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: mrad on September 13, 2013, 06:51:46 PM
Hmm, I'll be interested to see what people think about this one ;)

All good though.
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: ThY on September 13, 2013, 07:00:08 PM
Thanks, but again i think you're right: flags icon in a column is maybe too much.
I made this to better illustrate my post ;)
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: psychoadept on September 13, 2013, 08:07:25 PM
I would enjoy this feature, but it's not super important to me.  Seems like it could be a lot of work for Steven relative to the benefit.
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: MickyD on September 22, 2013, 02:04:40 PM
Just my my 2 halfpennies

The custom TAG is called Nat (for Nationality of course) and contains the relevant details of the performer i.e. "US/Sayreville/NJ" (for Bon Jovi) and I wouldn't change it if I did have flags, insufficient info for me ... but that's just me.



Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: Antonski on September 22, 2013, 10:36:48 PM
+1
I already use a custom tag 'Country' and I think it would be nice to have a flag icon associated with this tag value.
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: HHM on September 23, 2013, 12:13:19 AM
+1, nice little feature
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: e-motiv on September 24, 2013, 08:52:22 PM
+1, but as an extra info in the now playing panel, not as a column or in tags (though I am not against the latter, but would take a lot of work, I guess)
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: Zak on September 25, 2013, 04:49:12 AM
Rather than being flag specific, a more general implementation of matching images to tag values would meet the OP's request and allow for other uses too.

Random examples:

* icons to distinguish between albums and singles
* icons for occasion (party hat for "Party", Cake for "Birthday", Christmas tree for "Christmas", pumpkin for "Halloween" etc.)
* a little frowny face for low bitrate files


I just realised it might not be as difficult to implement this as I first thought. It just requires an update to the existing Highlighting feature to allow for images as well as colours.
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: psychoadept on September 25, 2013, 05:22:36 AM
I just realised it might not be as difficult to implement this as I first thought. It just requires an update to the existing Highlighting feature to allow for images as well as colours.

+1, though I still wouldn't call it high priority.
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: redwing on September 25, 2013, 05:26:32 AM
Rather than being flag specific, a more general implementation of matching images to tag values would meet the OP's request and allow for other uses too.

Random examples:

* icons to distinguish between albums and singles
* icons for occasion (party hat for "Party", Cake for "Birthday", Christmas tree for "Christmas", pumpkin for "Halloween" etc.)
* a little frowny face for low bitrate files


I just realised it might not be as difficult to implement this as I first thought. It just requires an update to the existing Highlighting feature to allow for images as well as colours.

+1
This is a brilliant idea, allowing for all kinds of creative ways to highlight different groups of tracks with images.
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: Steven on September 25, 2013, 10:58:47 PM
yes good suggestion zak as i was wondering how to do this in a more general way. It would only display in the main panel though.
Its a little rough still - to remove an existing assigned you need to re-click on the colour block in the rule editing dialog as right click/ Remove is not implemented as yet

http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V2_2/MusicBee_Exe_Patched.zip
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: mrad on September 26, 2013, 12:21:41 AM
@zak genius ;)
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: Antonski on September 26, 2013, 01:42:36 AM
Good!
It works as a column Highlights, but it doesn't when the field is displayed below artwork, where I would actually like to see it.
Maybe it wouldn't be so difficult to add it?
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: psychoadept on September 26, 2013, 03:06:45 AM
Cool!

Added:
I'm not gonna put the effort into flags, at least not now, but I just realized this will let me get rid of a bunch of my filters because I can see what I'm looking for at a glance.  Mind = blown.

Nice work, Steven!  You keep making these feature that I don't realize I need until I have them.  :)

You may be on this already, but things that occurred to me as I was working with them: auto-size columns will need to leave space for icons, and the highlight column should respect alignment settings with regard to icons, too.

Added (again):  You know what else would be mind-blowingly awesome?  Being able to middle-click on a highlight to filter, just like for other fields.  Then the highlighting rules could double as temporary filters.
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: ma_t14 on September 26, 2013, 04:35:36 AM
While we are at it can middle clicking be implemented for the check-box field as well? It would make playlists and whatnot based on check-boxes much easier and faster to create
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: Steven on September 26, 2013, 07:01:36 AM
While we are at it can middle clicking be implemented for the check-box field as well? It would make playlists and whatnot based on check-boxes much easier and faster to create
i am not understanding exactly what you are asking for - what checkbox are you refering to?
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: ma_t14 on September 26, 2013, 07:23:32 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/htpVH00.jpg)
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: Thorbjorn on September 26, 2013, 06:05:07 PM
It works great. I have two wishes though:
1) Would be great it it was possible to select a file with the same name as the tag. That way we don't have to set up 200 individual filters to display the flags. I'm sure that could be useful for other tags as well.
2) Possible to display with the album artwork.
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: Steven on September 26, 2013, 08:16:25 PM
It works great. I have two wishes though:
1) Would be great it it was possible to select a file with the same name as the tag. That way we don't have to set up 200 individual filters to display the flags. I'm sure that could be useful for other tags as well.
2) Possible to display with the album artwork.
i dont think the solution is actually a good one for the original request but its a better general solution. I might revisit this but it probably will be left as-is
for 2, i'll have a look at that but i expect you and Antonski will be wanting to merge it in with text rather than being a separate line which compilcates things. If i do this change it would be along the lines that the icon would need to be at the start of the text
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: Steven on September 26, 2013, 10:43:37 PM
this version supports showing field <Highlight> as the first field of a virtual tag in the picture area for Album & Tracks layout only - you can include text or other fields in the virtual tag but <Highlight> needs to be first
http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V2_2/MusicBee_Exe_Patched.zip

I will do the artwork layout and include it in the field combobox next time
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: vivadavid on September 26, 2013, 11:38:52 PM
I didn't know about the highlight feature and, after thinking about it for some time about how useful it could be to me, I'm going to use it to display a blue square if I haven't played a song at least once.

I wanted to ask something, though: is the play count stored in a particular file? I'd like to keep a backup of it, the same way that I keep a backup of MusicBeeSettings.ini, Banned Pictures.dat, etc.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: Antonski on September 27, 2013, 02:23:14 AM
this version supports showing field <Highlight> as the first field of a virtual tag in the picture area for Album & Tracks layout only - you can include text or other fields in the virtual tag but <Highlight> needs to be first
http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V2_2/MusicBee_Exe_Patched.zip

I will do the artwork layout and include it in the field combobox next time

I didn't even dare to ask you for possibility to include it in virtual tags :)
Currently the virtual tag with <Highlight> is left aligned when displayed in a field below the artwork, with a big space between the icon and the text, although I set the virtual tag alignment as 'middle' in the Fields Layout Editor.
Maybe this needs some refinement?
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: Zak on September 27, 2013, 06:18:57 AM
I wanted to ask something, though: is the play count stored in a particular file? I'd like to keep a backup of it, the same way that I keep a backup of MusicBeeSettings.ini, Banned Pictures.dat, etc.
They're stored in the MusicBeeLibrary.mbl database file along with any other non-tag values MusicBee needs to remember for each track.
That file is in the folder where you created your library.
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: Steven on September 27, 2013, 08:38:40 AM
I didn't even dare to ask you for possibility to include it in virtual tags :)
Currently the virtual tag with <Highlight> is left aligned when displayed in a field below the artwork, with a big space between the icon and the text, although I set the virtual tag alignment as 'middle' in the Fields Layout Editor.
Maybe this needs some refinement?
i didnt check for when fields are below the artwork and now you say this, it would be what happens so i will address that for the next update
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: vivadavid on September 27, 2013, 09:49:08 AM
@Zak

Thanks! :-)
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: redwing on September 28, 2013, 04:00:44 PM
I think now it's time to change the behavior when the user's clicking on <highlight> column header from opening highlight settings dialog to sorting tracks with the same images and colors. The order of images and colors should, I guess, follow the order of rules.
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: psychoadept on September 28, 2013, 09:10:43 PM
I think now it's time to change the behavior when the user's clicking on <highlight> column header from opening highlight settings dialog to sorting tracks with the same images and colors. The order of images and colors should, I guess, follow the order of rules.

+1, at least as alternative to being able to filter by highlighting rules.
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: Steven on September 28, 2013, 09:32:48 PM
highlighting is quite different to normal fields and sorting by that is quite difficult - thats the reason its not done already

this version contains the fix for displaying the icon in the Album & Tracks layout when fields are below the artwork
http://musicbee.niblseed.com/V2_2/MusicBee_Exe_Patched.zip
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: Antonski on September 28, 2013, 10:31:57 PM
Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: psychoadept on September 28, 2013, 10:37:42 PM
If this is really complicated I can live without it, but it occurs to me that with icons it would be possible to show ALL highlighting matches for a track, rather than just the first one.  (If I had to choose between this and sorting/filtering by highlight... it'd be tough, but I'd probably go with this one.  In a perfect world, one could filter depending on which icon you clicked, but I can't imagine what it would take to implement that.)
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: redwing on September 28, 2013, 10:58:14 PM
highlighting is quite different to normal fields and sorting by that is quite difficult - thats the reason its not done already

Isn't this just sorting tracks by bunch of auto-playlists? It might take a little longer to sort than normal fields, but not sure why it's so complicated.

- Place the tracks at the top that correspond to the conditions of <rule 1>
- For the rest, place the tracks at the top that correspond to the conditions of <rule 2>
- For the rest, place the tracks at the top that correspond to the conditions of <rule 3>
...
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: ThY on October 09, 2013, 02:10:18 PM
Hello there, it seems that i missed the warnings for new answers on this topic ><
Anyway, i'm very glad that my first idea came to Zak's one, then to Steven's patches.

Very great, i'm gonna check it out asap !
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: lnminente on October 20, 2013, 10:31:16 AM
I think now it's time to change the behavior when the user's clicking on <highlight> column header from opening highlight settings dialog to sorting tracks with the same images and colors. The order of images and colors should, I guess, follow the order of rules.
+1. I understand it is more difficult here than the other fields, but would be great doing it consistent. So +1 for sorting by clicking in header and +a to filtering when middleclicking in a color or an icon
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: 9cupsoftea on October 21, 2013, 07:41:36 PM
Rather than being flag specific, a more general implementation of matching images to tag values would meet the OP's request and allow for other uses too.

Random examples:

* icons to distinguish between albums and singles
* icons for occasion (party hat for "Party", Cake for "Birthday", Christmas tree for "Christmas", pumpkin for "Halloween" etc.)
* a little frowny face for low bitrate files


I just realised it might not be as difficult to implement this as I first thought. It just requires an update to the existing Highlighting feature to allow for images as well as colours.

+1
This is a brilliant idea, allowing for all kinds of creative ways to highlight different groups of tracks with images.

+1 I'd really like this too, and can think of more than a few ways I would use it.
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: psychoadept on October 21, 2013, 07:50:07 PM
+1 I'd really like this too, and can think of more than a few ways I would use it.

It's already been implemented.  Just download the 2.2 pre-release from the Beta forum.  :)
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: ThY on January 06, 2014, 03:25:23 PM
Hello, i wanted to share the flag icons i made for my own use.
Files are PNG named in french, there are not all the countries, only the ones i needed, and sometimes there are duo-flags, for some artists like AC/DC (who is part australian and english), as i said only for what i needed ;)

Link to the .ZIP (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mLqT_cWqCOO6rF4M32xJbWH9GcTImcDJ/view?usp=sharing)

Here is what it looks like for me:
(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/67/24/73/th/musicb11.jpg) (http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/67/24/73/musicb11.jpg)

And the options:
(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/12/67/24/73/flags10.jpg)

For the options though, i have an issue.
The icons are so numerous that the windows go off the screen, a scrollbar should be implemented i guess ^^
Because it's impossible to reach the bottom lines.

Beside that, any chance that those highlight icons will be displayable on "now playing track" window and/or compact mode info window ?
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: Stockinger on January 08, 2014, 10:21:13 AM
Thanks for sharing your flags!!!
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: ThY on January 08, 2014, 10:45:46 AM
Thanks for sharing your flags!!!

Hey ! You're welcome :)
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: SimonBRT on January 08, 2014, 01:39:01 PM
yeah, thanks Thy!

Don't personally use this feature but always great to see someone take the time to share something that could benefit others.
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: psychoadept on January 08, 2014, 02:38:42 PM
I'm going to link these from the wiki.
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: ThY on January 08, 2014, 03:39:33 PM
I'm going to link these from the wiki.

Good idea ;)
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: jan_axhell on September 12, 2020, 04:02:19 PM
The linked ZIP has been removed, any chance for a reshare?
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: ThY on September 12, 2020, 07:47:03 PM
Hi sorry for this.
I made a new one (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mLqT_cWqCOO6rF4M32xJbWH9GcTImcDJ/view?usp=sharing) and put it on Google Drive.

The countries are labeled in french.
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: jan_axhell on September 12, 2020, 07:55:36 PM
Thanks a lot!
How do I connect them to custom country tag? 
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: ThY on September 12, 2020, 09:50:45 PM
Through the highlighting rules in "Tags (2)" parameters.
Title: Re: Countries Flags
Post by: jan_axhell on September 12, 2020, 10:55:43 PM
Ah, ok, thanks again!