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Title: Stupid question about English language
Post by: boroda on June 17, 2025, 05:57:53 AM
What are the correct phrases?

1. "couple years" or "couple of years"?
2. "half year" or "half of year"?
Title: Re: Stupid question about English language
Post by: Gendji on June 17, 2025, 06:34:41 AM
Not a native English speaking person but i would say,

1. Couple of years.

But apparently there is a difference between BE en AE in regard to the spoken word. In writing it seems to be couple of years.

2. Half a year, depending how it's used in a sentence:

After half a year of searching i finally found... or
The first half year of my search....

And in regard to of year: the second half of the year we......

But like i said not a native English speaker ;)
Title: Re: Stupid question about English language
Post by: karbock on June 17, 2025, 07:43:59 AM
Title: Re: Stupid question about English language
Post by: boroda on June 17, 2025, 08:52:44 AM
@karbock, thanks a lot. these nuances are important and sometime annoying to me  8)
Title: Re: Stupid question about English language
Post by: phred on June 17, 2025, 01:25:34 PM
@karbock, thanks a lot. these nuances are important and sometime annoying to me  8)
As a native English speaker, I agree with karbock. And these nuances are annoying to me also.

To a non-native English speaker, this is not a stupid question. American English is so screwed up that even native speakers can't always get it right.
Title: Re: Stupid question about English language
Post by: karbock on June 17, 2025, 06:34:18 PM
Yes, English can be weird.
It can be understood through tough thorough thought, though.  ???
Title: Re: Stupid question about English language
Post by: phred on June 17, 2025, 07:26:21 PM
It can be understood through tough thorough thought, though.  ???
Exactly!!!
Not to mention read, red, read.
Title: Re: Stupid question about English language
Post by: boroda on June 18, 2025, 07:13:13 AM
Not to mention read, red, read.

what about moon, blood, door?  ::)
Title: Re: Stupid question about English language
Post by: boroda on June 18, 2025, 07:15:16 AM
As a native English speaker, I agree with karbock.

thanks for confirmation by the native English speaker
Title: Re: Stupid question about English language
Post by: boroda on June 18, 2025, 07:19:23 AM
p.s. the problem is that for russian 2 forms are possible (i translate them literally): "halfyear" (single noun) and "half of a year" (both 'half' and 'year' are nouns)
Title: Re: Stupid question about English language
Post by: Música on June 25, 2025, 08:04:02 PM
What are the correct phrases?

1. "couple years" or "couple of years"?
2. "half year" or "half of year"?
It's a second language for me, but as such, I had to learn it more formally than more or most.

I agree with Gendji, that "couple of years" and "half a year" are appropriate in your choice sets, although I'd expand on karbok and suggest that both "couple" uses are informal or even slangy. Particularly in writing, I would use "two (or 2) years" or "six (or 6) months". If the intent or point is to be imprecise, it is better to say or write "about two (or 2) years" or "about six (or 6) months."

By the by, "half a year", in common usage or parlance, is quite rare: I don't believe I'd ever heard nor read that time frame applied. To wit, to me, "half a year" is slangy or informal enough that I'd barely distinguish it from "half year", although the context could matter.   
Title: Re: Stupid question about English language
Post by: hiccup on June 25, 2025, 08:52:07 PM
And don't forget about American vs. British English.

About half a year ago
Some six months ago
Title: Re: Stupid question about English language
Post by: phred on June 25, 2025, 09:49:40 PM
And don't forget about American vs. British English.
Color vs Colour.
While vs whilst.
Title: Re: Stupid question about English language
Post by: boroda on June 26, 2025, 02:06:08 AM
thanks to all. actually, these aspects are very interesting, even though they don't relate to music. (i.e. may be some kind of off-topic on this forum)
Title: Re: Stupid question about English language
Post by: boroda on June 26, 2025, 02:21:16 AM
And don't forget about American vs. British English.
Color vs Colour.
While vs whilst.

USA & GB are different counties at least. i sometimes (i'm living in Moscow) don't understand what citizens of St. Petersburg say. St. Petersburg is the Russian informal second capital, located not too far from Moscow: "бордюр" in Moscow ("bordur" - transliteration, "edging" or "border" in English?) vs. "поребрик" ("porebrik" - transliteration) in St. Petersburg; "батон" ("baton") in Moscow vs. "булка" ("bulka") in St. Petersburg - "baton" in English.  ;D
Title: Re: Stupid question about English language
Post by: phred on June 26, 2025, 03:57:34 AM
I would suspect that every language has its own  little oddities.
Title: Re: Stupid question about English language
Post by: Pickles7853 on June 28, 2025, 04:34:25 AM
The series that always gets me is: biannual, biennial or semiannual.
I simply cannot remember which refers to what so I avoid all three  8)
I have heard, on occasion, semiannual used for both twice a year or once every two years.
I think it might be a regional thing.
Title: Re: Stupid question about English language
Post by: BoringName on June 28, 2025, 04:41:38 AM
Color vs Colour.

This one is annoying when coding. Everything uses Color but locally we use Colour.

As a native english speaker I have no idea how people learn it as a second language, all the inconsistent pronunciations would drive me insane learning it from scratch.

Laughter
Slaughter
Live concert vs live in a house
Resume for a job application vs the game will resume at 4pm
Title: Re: Stupid question about English language
Post by: voodoopunk on June 28, 2025, 10:32:25 AM
Resume for a job application vs the game will resume at 4pm
Curriculum vitae...
Title: Re: Stupid question about English language
Post by: boroda on June 28, 2025, 04:47:07 PM
Resume for a job application vs the game will resume at 4pm
Curriculum vitae...

+1  ;)