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Title: Odd Behaviour of A-Z Jump List and Sorting Problem
Post by: jeddie on June 19, 2021, 08:17:20 AM
Hello,
Background; I have got a new PC & I copied my settings etc from old PC to new PC. Running ver 3.3.7491.

I have 2 problems that may be related?

1. The A-Z Jump List is not working. When I click on 'A' MB jumps to A, but when I click on other letters MB either does nothing or jumps to 'Z'? Eg click say 'M' nothing happens.

2. I want to ignore 'The' in Artist names in my layout. Preferences > Sorting/Grouping > is checked to ignore 'The'.
    I actually took 'The' out of The Pychedelic Furs using the Tag editor but MB still shows it under 'T'

Any assistance would be welcome.

https://i.imgur.com/FFU52be.png
Title: Re: Odd Behaviour of A-Z Jump List and Sorting Problem
Post by: Steven on June 19, 2021, 08:56:56 AM
first off, update to the latest version from the downloads page and if it still doesnt work send a link to your settings file (help/ support/ view settings)
Title: Re: Odd Behaviour of A-Z Jump List and Sorting Problem
Post by: phred on June 19, 2021, 12:42:28 PM
Have you performed a file rescan after making the change to ignore "the"?
Title: Re: Odd Behaviour of A-Z Jump List and Sorting Problem
Post by: jeddie on June 20, 2021, 06:20:55 AM
Updated to ver 3.4.7805. and did Library rescan. No change in behaviour.

The checkbox to ignore 'the' was already ticked. 

How do I upload the Settings.ini file as jpg or png. The ini file is long & I can't snip past the limit of my screen?
Title: Re: Odd Behaviour of A-Z Jump List and Sorting Problem
Post by: hiccup on June 20, 2021, 06:35:45 AM
The order in the screenshot looks like what is to be expected?

Lumineers
Psychedelic Furs
Rolling Stones

Are in alphabetical order if you ignore 'the'.
Title: Re: Odd Behaviour of A-Z Jump List and Sorting Problem
Post by: jeddie on June 20, 2021, 06:56:47 AM
Based on the 3 artists in the screen shot it does appear that way, but that is misleading. I can assure you my library is not in alphabetical order.

Only the artists with 'The' in the name seem to be in alphabetical order but other artists are not. Here is a partial list of what I see;

Taylor Swift
The Beach Boys
The Church
The Lumineers
Pychedelic Furs
The Rolling Stones
The Who
Tom Petty
U2
Title: Re: Odd Behaviour of A-Z Jump List and Sorting Problem
Post by: hiccup on June 20, 2021, 07:08:16 AM
Do you perhaps have 'enable custom sort values…' enabled?
That could overrule the default 'ignore The' functionality.

edit
And about the A-Z jumpbar:
What view for the main panel are you using?
If it's 'Album Covers', perhaps you have set some grouping?
Then the A-Z bar will try to match the grouping item.
Title: Re: Odd Behaviour of A-Z Jump List and Sorting Problem
Post by: The Incredible Boom Boom on June 20, 2021, 01:43:29 PM
Do you perhaps have 'enable custom sort values…' enabled?
That could overrule the default 'ignore The' functionality.

This is likely what's happening, as I've since discovered trying to have artists with non-Latin character names sorting by Latin characters.
Any time file changes are made, a Custom Tag is added or music is added to the Library, other names from the various <Artist> tags also get added to the values, under the sort name of the <Album Artist>. I haven't been able to come up with a workaround, other than manually removing all artists except for the ones I input. 
Title: Re: Odd Behaviour of A-Z Jump List and Sorting Problem
Post by: jeddie on June 21, 2021, 08:58:33 AM
Do you perhaps have 'enable custom sort values…' enabled?
That could overrule the default 'ignore The' functionality.
Enable Custom sort values is Unchecked.

And about the A-Z jumpbar:
What view for the main panel are you using?
If it's 'Album Covers', perhaps you have set some grouping?
Then the A-Z bar will try to match the grouping item.

My view is 'Album & Tracks'. It has album Covers on LH side.

I just fired up my old PC and MB works as expected. Jump list is OK and all artists correctly sorted.
When I got my new PC all I did was download MB and transferred my settings from old to new PC.

Anything else I can try to troubleshoot?
Title: Re: Odd Behaviour of A-Z Jump List and Sorting Problem
Post by: Steven on June 21, 2021, 09:24:05 AM
upload your settings file somewhere eg. dropbox, mediafire and send me the link
Title: Re: Odd Behaviour of A-Z Jump List and Sorting Problem
Post by: jeddie on June 22, 2021, 08:16:36 AM
upload your settings file somewhere eg. dropbox, mediafire and send me the link

Sorry Steven I have no idea about dropbox or mediafire.
Title: Re: Odd Behaviour of A-Z Jump List and Sorting Problem
Post by: phred on June 22, 2021, 12:18:07 PM
Sorry Steven I have no idea about dropbox or mediafire.
Go to one of the websites Steven mentioned and upload your settings file. When the upload is complete, it will show you a link to it. Copy the link and sent it via PM to Steven. If you can't manage to do this, Steven won't be able to help solve the issue.