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Rotem K.
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« on: April 07, 2011, 05:27:21 PM »

Steven,

I have a wav file that's been ripped from a DTS-SACD. and of course when I don't play it through my system, I hear only static.
I have found that VLC player does play DTS encoded files even when I don't have an external decoder down the line.

It there a way to get MusicBee to play DTS files like that? in a way that the software decodes the DTS and the output is audioable without an external decoder ?

Thanks
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jimmanningjr
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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2011, 06:09:33 AM »

I hate to say this because I love Music Bee but there are a few things it cant do...Play HDCD and DTS are the only 2 that effect me...What I do is take the DTS wav and use foobar to convert it to a 5.1 flac file...Then Music Bee will play the Flac File with the 5.1 surround sound...I just converted a bunch of Porcupine Tree albums just like that with foobar.Also to my knowledge there are no DTS SACD's What you may have is
a. aDTS CD converted to wave or
b. a rip from a DVD Audio that also had aDTS section or
3.Someone played a SACD back in real time and took the 6 audio outs and hooked them up to a PC that had DTS Software on it to make the resulting 5.1 wave file(s)
I am guessing the first one...You have to watch out too There are starting to be alot of DTS files that are made from Stereo files also AC3 files...these guys (WWW.DTSAC3.com) have a whole system for doing it BUT no matter what they do it is STILL FROM A STEREO MASTER SO IT IS A MATRIX SURROUND RECORDING UPSAMPLED AND UPMIXED TO 5.1....It is not the same as true surround or even true quad...I just listened to a copy of Wish You Were Here by Pink Floyd made from an old Q8 Quad 8Track and it was astounding. The separation was soooo much better than a version I have  made with the method from The above web site  www.dtsac3.com   
Peace From Philly
JIM
PS I sure wish I could write code cause I would help Steven implement these features....but I cant....YET!
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Rotem K.
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2011, 06:21:49 AM »

I hate to say this because I love Music Bee but there are a few things it cant do...Play HDCD and DTS are the only 2 that effect me...What I do is take the DTS wav and use foobar to convert it to a 5.1 flac file...Then Music Bee will play the Flac File with the 5.1 surround sound...I just converted a bunch of Porcupine Tree albums just like that with foobar.Also to my knowledge there are no DTS SACD's What you may have is
a. aDTS CD converted to wave or
b. a rip from a DVD Audio that also had aDTS section or
3.Someone played a SACD back in real time and took the 6 audio outs and hooked them up to a PC that had DTS Software on it to make the resulting 5.1 wave file(s)
I am guessing the first one...You have to watch out too There are starting to be alot of DTS files that are made from Stereo files also AC3 files...these guys (WWW.DTSAC3.com) have a whole system for doing it BUT no matter what they do it is STILL FROM A STEREO MASTER SO IT IS A MATRIX SURROUND RECORDING UPSAMPLED AND UPMIXED TO 5.1....It is not the same as true surround or even true quad...I just listened to a copy of Wish You Were Here by Pink Floyd made from an old Q8 Quad 8Track and it was astounding. The separation was soooo much better than a version I have  made with the method from The above web site  www.dtsac3.com   
Peace From Philly
JIM
PS I sure wish I could write code cause I would help Steven implement these features....but I cant....YET!

Thanks for the info Jim! Yeah it's a DTS CD ripped to wav. I'll give a try through Foobar, but would still like to know why it is that some players play DTS while our Bee don't, and if there's a plug-in maybe of a library dll that could be added to add that sort of support.
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jimmanningjr
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2011, 06:46:32 AM »

You'll have to ask Steven he deals with that company BASS for most of the codecs for playback...I cant see why he couldnt add the feature...but then again I cant seem to get him to do HDCD playback for flac files that have the HDCD flag...so who knows...I do believe the DTS thing is alot simpler maybe you could go to the BASS website to see if they deal with DTS playback...I think you find the web address when you click "about" in Music Bee!
JIM
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Rotem K.
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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2011, 06:57:14 AM »

You'll have to ask Steven he deals with that company BASS for most of the codecs for playback...I cant see why he couldnt add the feature...but then again I cant seem to get him to do HDCD playback for flac files that have the HDCD flag...so who knows...I do believe the DTS thing is alot simpler maybe you could go to the BASS website to see if they deal with DTS playback...I think you find the web address when you click "about" in Music Bee!
JIM

I guess some stuff have licensing limitations, so maybe HDCD is one of those, could be DTS is also limited.
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Steven
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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2011, 08:10:20 AM »

bass doesnt directly support DTS decoding. There is a plugin i was planning to implement later in the year that can decode DTS using a DirectShow filter but no near term solution i am aware of. Perhaps there is a tool that can convert the format into say FLAC so then MB could play it.
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Rotem K.
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« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2011, 10:57:18 AM »

bass doesnt directly support DTS decoding. There is a plugin i was planning to implement later in the year that can decode DTS using a DirectShow filter but no near term solution i am aware of. Perhaps there is a tool that can convert the format into say FLAC so then MB could play it.

Okay thanks! it's good to know that somewhere down the road there is a plan to make it available.
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